New Inmotion V10 / V10F

[em1barns]

6 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

Wonder what happened?

Brexit?

[Demargon]

prices in Spain remain quite acceptable

until the promo ends

[Kael]

23 minutes ago, Demargon said:

prices in Spain remain quite acceptable

until the promo ends

 

That's the best price I've seen in the EU, but they only appear to ship to Spain or Portugal. 

 

I've contacted Proj42, and Personal Electric Transport (where I bought my wheel) to see if/when they might be selling the V10. 

Here in Blighty, it's suddenly gone from crappy winter weather to 24ºC (75ºF) in the space of a week. I'm itching for a new wheel! 

 

[em1barns]

Any idea if the V10 pedals can be mounted on the V8?

[Ch.Eng.62]

53 minutes ago, Kael said:

That's the best price I've seen in the EU, but they only appear to ship to Spain or Portugal. 

At https://www.electricunicycles.eu/store prices are almost the same. 60€ difference 

[Kael]

14 minutes ago, Ch.Eng.62 said:

At https://www.electricunicycles.eu/store prices are almost the same. 60€ difference 

It’s €1399 including taxes on the InMotion Iberia site, and €1640 there, for the V10F. €240 difference. 

[Tomek]

any ideas why V10 is so relatively heavy? I mean, all other wheels with comparable specs (e.g. tesla, gt16) weigh 1-3 kg less, while InMotion claims to use lighter alloys... my guess would be that the motor is factually more powerful (more windings?) or robust than the other 2000W rated motors?

[Cloud]

14 minutes ago, Tomek said:

any ideas why V10 is so relatively heavy? I mean, all other wheels with comparable specs (e.g. tesla, gt16) weigh 1-3 kg less, while InMotion claims to use lighter alloys... my guess would be that the motor is factually more powerful (more windings?) or robust than the other 2000W rated motors?

I am sure there is a combination of things. I believe v10 has rubber pedals? Rubber can easily add up to 0.5-1 lb to the weight. The pedals are bigger too, probably heavier. Wider tire probably means wider rim- also an addition. The size of casing - the weight will go up with the increase in surface area.  Trolley handle it seems weighs more than most others . Speakers also ( if you are comparing to a non speaker model) . All of this adds up and god knows what else is heavier of the inside 

 

[Demargon]

batteries cooler also add significant weight, dual CPU maybe is imperceptible but, who knows? and surely the most of the extra weight comes from the shell design, due his wider surface and the high resistance standards

[Inmotion France]

15 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said:

Speedyfeet prices (including all taxes):
V10: 1400 GBP = 1620€
V10F: 1700 GBP = 1960€

Funnily enough, even the French are cheaper (1500€/1800€).

U.S. prices (excluding non-existent taxes):
V10: 1300 US$ = 1050€
V10F: 1600 US$ = 1300€

Difference:
V10: +55%
V10F: +50%

Hello @meepmeepmayer

Sorry, but you are wrong .   

We have 200 € promotion for V10 / V10F. 

So V10 is 1290 € V10F 1590 €  VAT and shipping included for Germany .

Thanks 

[Electroman]

This wheel is very interesting to me and want as safe as can get, at least until the day we start to see real redundant systems (if ever?) so for now stability and rumor as safe'ish manufacturer is good for me. While starting to train again and loosing the extra weight added after fracture, I will never be a small, lightweight man but want a powerful, light, responsive, safe but also compact 16" so asking too much.. 

Cannot wait for a technological breakthrough in regards to batteries/energy storage, perhaps a bit of a nerd myself but I kind of like the Z look a bit more but looks certainly is not everything or even close to absolute top of my wish list.

[meepmeepmayer]

@Jason McNeil Any plans for a V10F+ with 1020Wh/1036Wh (3500mAh cells), maybe when/if the battery prices calm down a bit? Kind of a low hanging fruit. Though maybe the difference to the V10F isn't worth it? Asking since you have a proven track record of getting Inmotion to release + models

[houseofjob]

9 hours ago, em1barns said:

Any idea if the V10 pedals can be mounted on the V8?

Yes, I sure do wonder!..... 

[xebeche]

17 minutes ago, houseofjob said:

Yes, I sure do wonder!..... 

You mounted them on V5?? Other than improved comfort have you noticed some other advantages?

[houseofjob]

26 minutes ago, xebeche said:

You mounted them on V5?? Other than improved comfort have you noticed some other advantages?

Well, while I still have the access to them, yes, was curious, borrowed a friend's V5, mounted, and voila!

Haven't tried to ride this setup, been too busy, but I'm sure they are the bees knees! why do people say this expression? do bees really have knees?

Edited April 18, 2018 by houseofjob

[kasenutty]

[houseofjob]

@kasenutty 

[meepmeepmayer]

56 minutes ago, houseofjob said:

Yes, I sure do wonder!..... 

"Riding curves? Who needs that anyways!"

[EUCMania]

7 hours ago, Tomek said:

any ideas why V10 is so relatively heavy? I mean, all other wheels with comparable specs (e.g. tesla, gt16) weigh 1-3 kg less, while InMotion claims to use lighter alloys... my guess would be that the motor is factually more powerful (more windings?) or robust than the other 2000W rated motors?

Motor is wider in proportion to tire width. This way, wider magnets and coil is used to increase wattage and torque. But these metals are heavy.

[Kael]

I had replies from Project42 and Personal Electric Transport; they both said they plan to offer the wheel soon, but PET gave some more detail: pre-orders in May at £1395 for a June delivery. The model mentioned was the V10F but I wonder if he meant the V10. 

[novazeus]

found this.

 

[trya]

Inmotion V10F disassembly and internals (pre-production model) - from @EcoDrift

https://ecodrift.ru/wiki/monokolesa/predseriynyy_inmotion_v10f_ne_kataemsya_a_izuchaem_ustroystvo/

[Marty Backe]

1 hour ago, trya said:

Inmotion V10F disassembly and internals (pre-production model) - from @EcoDrift

https://ecodrift.ru/wiki/monokolesa/predseriynyy_inmotion_v10f_ne_kataemsya_a_izuchaem_ustroystvo/

Great set of pictures. Among other things I learned that it has a fuse just like the KingSong wheels. 30-amp (KS uses a 40-amp). And it's just as inaccessible as the older KS wheels too .

[Bob Yan]

On 4/18/2018 at 9:27 AM, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said:

Yeah that's what I was getting at when I asked Bob that question, but I got no answers.    Like maybe keep the over the top battery arrangement, but add some side packs as well maybe one layer thick so it helps keep the wheel slim.

With the handle, maybe have it lock to the shell at the back and incorporate a narrow spot for the carry handle.  Don't have the lock release at the front but have it at the back where the light is.  They could even make the end of the handle open like how it is on the end of a shovel so the brake light can be seen through it.

Because InMotion cares lot of the looking of the wheel, so we have to compromise on lots of other things.  But what you said makes sense!

[Bob Yan]

On 4/18/2018 at 9:12 AM, Adel said:

@Jason McNeil sometimes I wonder if EUC manufacturers do any usability testing on their product. You find this issue in one day of testing but they have been developing this wheel for how long ?

Actually maybe instead of strapping one handle on top of another, they should have designed a single built on handle on the top that swings up the same way ?

Otherwise They have done many good things with the V10f, I would have liked to see another version possibly little wider but with more battery.

It's all about money. 

You may know we are using the same handle of V5 for V10, and because V10 is much heavier than V5, so the problem get amplified. We found out this problem couples of months ago, but we were not sure how big the market would be, and we hesitated  to make a new mould which will cost lots of money. 

 

Edited April 20, 2018 by Bobwheel
wrong spelling