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    Here is my thread covering my thoughts about the Z10 as they develop. I received the wheel yesterday and took it out some last night. It is a very "dense" wheel. It almost feels like a Monster was hit with a shrink ray that kept the weight but knocked a third off it's size. The look and feel of the wheel in person is impressive and measures up to what I have seen in pictures and videos. The fit and finish seems top notch and what I have come to expect of a Ninebot product. Wide is a recurring theme when I describe the wheel. Not only is the tire almost motorcycle looking in width, the pedals, which have been touted all along as being Ninebot One knock offs feel much wider than I recall. Even my big size 13 feet had extra space to move in and out, more so than I do on my Msuper style pedals which surprised the hell out of me. I was very nervous hopping on for my first ride which was able to do pretty quickly since Chris was nice enough to send the wheel with a full charge on it. The first few minutes in the driveway were very similar to what I remember when I first rode the Monster. Body movements that would turn my other wheels did not have the same effect on the Z10. As Chris mentioned several times, going straight on the Z10 is extremely easy because of the fat tire, it just wants to stay upright. Despite the different physics and geometry of the wheel within a half hour or so I felt much more comfortable as my body learned what does and doesn't work pretty quickly which I talk about a lot in the video. As far as power and braking I have zero complaints. Acceleration and braking was smooth and predictable. Keep in mind my other wheels are a 67V Msuper V3 and an original Monster but with that background, the Z10 felt just fine to me initially and even better once I started leaning more to bring on the power more rapidly. The wheel cruises at speed easily. My top speed during the ride was over 25mph and it obviously had a lot more to give if I asked it to. So I will expand on this as my experience continues. I have a very busy two days ahead of me with me traveling all around the county trying to test the wheel in various situations. Yes, the swamp will be one of them.
  3. 22 points
    Just got back from a run to the grocery store. Took my Tesla. I was cruising on the sidewalk, probably 12 to 15-mph, along the town center area with lots of parking lot entrances off the main town road. As I approach one of the entrances I see a car come from behind and proceed to turn into the entrance just as I'm about to cross the entrance. Hmmmm. I immediately take evasive action, but I'm limited because of how fast I'm traveling. I'm trying to turn enough to miss the corner of the car, but not so fast that I'd lose control of the wheel. It's all happening in slow-motion now. Somehow I miss the bumper by literally 6 or so inches, and the car has now stopped (so at least I won't be run over) as I continue past the hood. My next nemesis awaits me. Since the car essentially pushed me off my sidewalk trajectory I now find myself heading straight towards a 4+ inch tall divider. Images of @Shad0z's broken collar bone flash through my mind I'm still traveling fast and my instinct tells me that it's going to be impossible to stop. As I'm coming to this conclusion I've already initiated a braking motion and somehow simultaneously I manage to jump off my moving wheel and continue running, hurtling over the divider and coming to a stop on shaky legs. I hear the Tesla crash behind me. I turn around and walk back to the Tesla, managing a John Wayne swagger the best that I can. You know, like no big deal, I do this all the time. Meanwhile the people in the car are staring out their windows, mouths literally agape , thankful that they didn't hit me and simultaneously wondering what exactly they missed hitting. I could see their mouths forming the words "I'm sorry". I chalk this near miss up to a combination of them not paying attention to the sidewalk and me not riding defensively enough. It was literally the fault of both of us, I believe. Definitely provided my adrenaline rush for the day And the Tesla was great, turning off nice and fast. If I was on my old ACM it would probably still be dancing away
  4. 21 points
    Few impressions after 200km on KS-18L I got this wheel a week ago and unfortunately it was a rainy week and I had to leave for the weekend without the wheel. That means I only rode it for just over 200 km and only today I made a longer journey including some off-road. At first I had trouble controlling the wheel as I never rode 18” or larger wheel for more than few hundred meters. I was used to Mten3 as it was my only wheel for past few weeks (previously I rode KS-14C for few thousand km). The difference is huge, it is entirely different style of riding. At first, I was so disappointed with acceleration and braking. This wheel behaves like a fully loaded cargo ship compared to mten3. But I got used to the bigger wheel and todays ride was exhilarating! If you push this wheel with your calves as well as with feet it can climb or go down any hill. I would sooner start worrying about enough traction than power. The high speed riding feels very comfortable and stable. This wheel eats up kilometers like nothing. The wheel has generally great build quality. It feels better than my father’s Inmotion V8 in this regard. However, when unpacked one of the side cushions was already slabbing and one of the screws holding the mudguard wasn’t fastened. I could fix both things in a minute but it was disappointing none the less. If we are already talking about bad things… The lift-up cutoff is sometimes not working well. I mean most of the time its fine but like one in ten lift ups start good but after time while lifted the wheel activates. This is very annoying as the wheels starts spinning and beeping loudly – not good when arriving home late at night… It also sometimes turns off for a split second while standing or atleast I think that is what it does - the wheel beeps and jerks a little. Fortunately cut-off functionally is disabled entirely while the wheel is in motion. The lift-up freewheeling speed is 68 km/h while fully charged and 51 km/h while not rideable anymore due to low battery. I rode it for about 70 km on a charge today. It was mixed street/off-road ride including steep hills and I weigh 80 kg. Max speed tested 40 km/h. It has pretty loud high frequency whine but otherwise its quiet. I did not experience tilt-back because of low battery like @Henrik Olsen maybe because I stopped riding sooner as I hate the beeps. But the tilt-back caused by approaching set top speed is gradual so I think it is well implemented. My FW version is 1.03 and there is currently update offered in the app, but I am hesitant to go trough with it. I have not figured out how to turn the USB ports and Bluetooth speakers on without turning on the whole wheel (no second button like on KS-16) but just laying the wheel on its side while on works. There is nice effect of equalizer visualization while playing music but it does not adjust to the volume so with low volume it doesn’t work. The wheel also turns on Bluetooth for the app and for the speakers while charging so you can check the charge level while charging from your phone. So far neither the official app or WheelLog are ready for 84V KS so they show the right voltage but wrong battery %. In conclusion I am very glad I now own KS-18L and Mten3 as these two wheels complement each other. KS-18L is awesome long range powerful wheel for trail and fast long rides and Mten3 is the most agile tiny power house and is super fun for goofing around and technical riding (had a blast on it on singletrek). Now some multimedia (not @Marty Backe quality but hopefully useful, I just used my phone and had to hold it in hand as I have no tripod nor selfiestick): Trail riding Low battery behavior Weird light-photoresistor feedback loop Looking down the valley I just came from Dual charging while turned on KS-18L having a rest while a boat does the work
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    I went to Copenhagen to pick up my brand new Kingsong KS18L Electric Unicycle. In this video, I unbox, unlock and share my first impression of KS18L after taking in on its first ride.
  7. 15 points
    Based on numbers I got on this test I would estimate you get 30-40 miles per charge based on rider weight and riding conditions.
  8. 14 points
    KS18L Range Test of my brand new Kingsong KS18L taking it to work and back. Did I make the trip? This is a real-life range test, with a 200 lbs rider, windy conditions in 20C.
  9. 14 points
    Here’s me and @mrelwood riding and testing the new V10F firmware. Feels really good except for the bug giving the warning too early and badly done tilt back. I tested yesterday but didn’t go fast enough to notice it. Don’t upgrade before Inmotion has released a fixed version. After that it’s really good. Did some climbing test also, that feels better now. It’s really good at going uphill fast! Riding mostly on trails again. For this use this firmware is ok because you cannot go so fast anyway. The agility factor has gone way up since I’ve got used to it and now with this firmware. New riders will feel top heavy and previously also sluggish. Now the sluggish part is fixed and top heavy is a matter of learning and getting stronger. Guys, don’t worry yet if you have a V10. This is actually very promising. The upgrade didn’t go well for Inmotion, but I’m sure they’ll fix this and then you’ll get to enjoy a new wheel.
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    @eddiemoy @Mark Lee I know you've been annoyed by the acceleration of the V10F, especially the not so responsive start. Our team has been working on it for weeks, and there should be an upgraded firmware version released on the App by the end of this week, and we hope you like it. Thanks again for your feedback.
  12. 13 points
    The 17 Mile Drive in Monterey is truly amazing. The most captivating and mesmerizing emotions brought out by the waves crashing on the rocks, the smell of the ocean and just plain amazing beauty every direction you turn. This is California coastline beauty at its absolute best!
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    In the movie version, you will have been riding it. It will keep dancing, humming to a fever pitch. And on the other side of that barrier you will slow to a walk, without turning back, as your ACM explodes in a fireball, consuming the car and setting off nearby alarms. BACKE: Damn. That was my favorite wheel. FLICKS MTEN3 OUT OF HIS POCKET AND RIDES OFF TO SMOOTH SWING MUSIC
  14. 12 points
    This is one of the most entertaining projects I've gotten to work on so far - I met up with Aaron Kyro and his Braille Skateboarding crew in the Bay Area to see what they could do with some of our wheels in their playground. These guys only had an hour or less of practice before this game, and for a few of them (including Aaron) it was their very first attempt! Skaters usually learn pretty quickly, but it was crazy how quickly they progressed. And here's the full Episode on Braille Skateboarding's Youtube channel if you want to see what took me out of the game 🤣 I will say I am proud of myself for playing along with these guys because I'm not really a trick rider and barely even enjoy jumping off curbs. So when it came to these huge drop offs it was a bit scary. But I'm glad I did it because I surprised myself! Towards the end of the game they were doing some things I wouldn't even dare attempt, however.
  15. 12 points
    Electric unicycle death trap
  16. 12 points
    Inspired by yesterday's ride with a bit of a view (see previous page), I realized I could lollygag around the flat lands forever, but my heart is in the mountains So I did a modification of my usual mountain tour. Started late afternoon, wonderful hot and sunny hazy weather, ended up being almost 6.5 hours and I was home at 11 again (these rides always take longer than you think). -- This is only a few kilometers from home. The plan is to get to the mountains, follow a creek valley up there, at its end climb to a mountain ridge below a big rock face, follow the ridge, get down again at the other end, and have enough battery to get back home *knock on wheel*. View, almost there. The b*tch as* mountain to the left fried my first ACM dead Valley is behind it, and you see end of the ridge on the other side. Road up into the valley. The first of many cooling stops. And another stop. This was hilarious. I got out of the forest onto the open Alm meadow, but every single cow there decided to enjoy a tree's shadow in the sunny heat and block the road ahead. Completely block it. Felt like this, when they all look at at you... But I got through, slowly on the side. Didn't want to get kicked by a cow. And just when I got to the other side of the bovine blockade, a car came down and had the same problem. But the driver pushed slowly through.... ... and the cows closed their ranks again. Further up the valley, creek to the side. The road is a mixture of paved and gravel, open meadow and forest. The valley essentially ends here. The steeper climb to the ridge begins (right route). Looking back. Moon, highest peak in the area with an antenna, and the road. Gained height quite fast. Looking back, further up. One of many rock faces is looming behind the trees. Break at the last junction. The way up is a short but nice dead end. To the right, you follow the ridge. The end. Highest point for the trusty ACM. In a moment, I'd go on foot onto a small grass peak, up towards the right in this picture. Was curious about the view up there. But first, the ACM's view Walking () up, looking back. I briefly considered carrying the ACM with me for picture staging reasons, but nah. On the top: a bench, and a stone marker for the peak. On the left, you can see the flat lands at the foot of the mountains. Pretty nice view up there Looking into the mountains. Now it was time for the way down and back. The battery was at a cool 35% on the top here, so... well, the math didn't look too promising. But you gotta trust your wheel. Loving that little machine. On the way down along the ridge, the wheel-murdering mountain's upper part to the right. Also, nice view into the flat lands. Getting to that lake there, circling it, and back home again is a nice tour I've done a few times. Testing the portrait/focus thing on my phone along the way. Along the ridge... At the end of the ridge, a 90° right turn, descending half the mountain, and another right turn. Leavin the forest, ending up at this nice Alm hut. Great views of my entire route to and from the mountains. Looking down on the lands below. I decided to continue via the right path here, something I hadn't tried before. It's not the official bike route, and promised to be steeper. Looking back at the hut. Steep indeed. And lots of nasty big gravel, potentially pedal-catching rocks, steps, and deep ruts. It always is much worse than it looks in pictures. Nice route though, was a fun challenge, and pretty. Last look at the hut. Now it was through forest, and got darker fast (nearly 9pm). Yep... low light = my phone camera craps out. Pretend it's a sharp picture, then it's quite neat It was so steep, I needed cooling breaks on the way down! Usually, this is completely unnecessary. Looking back at the ACM cooling down in the darkening forest. Side view when the forest opened up for a few meters. Almost down. Curious cows at a picnic table on the side of the path. Off the mountain and back in civilization. Down from the mountains, the battery was still at 35%, despite challenging riding for over 1.5 hours. Gotta love regenerative braking You never lose battery going down. I decided to go back home slooooooowly so I would still make the short-of-20km distance I needed. This is on the way back. Was quite dark then. You can see the valley I ascended to the left, the ridge starting at the highest peak right at its end, and the lights of the hut I've just been to in the center there. Good night, and good luck (getting home before the battery is empty). Spoiler: it worked I took it slow, and got home with (I guess) still a few km to spare. Wheellog summary. 66km as the wheel says (which is more accurate than GPS), and some notable heights were included as well. It's amazing how little energy climbing mountains costs - you can get 1000m up for the loss of a few km range (with continuous fast riding in flat terrain, the 1300Wh give me just under 70km range). The route. Read the circular part clockwise. The lower part of the circle is the mountain part, straight down the valley, turning around and up to and along the undulating ridge, and then down again. GeoTracker summary. Some cool numbers there. That's it, hoping you liked it Result: Mountains are nice, and so are electric unicycles.
  17. 11 points
    Gotway is clearly the step child on this forum. If a new comer or even a experience rider asks about what EUC to buy, somehow Gotawy will always have (even if only as an addendum) a "unreliable" up to dangerous tag associated with it. The only "seat-of'the pants" evidence that Gotway is even remotely less reliable than the other brands is Jason's statement about 15% early failure rate on the Tesla and I believe ACM2. I call this seat-of-pants rather than empirical because it reflects only the experiences of one vendor, no matter how large and doesn't include the entire Gotway line. With new batches coming out on a regular basis there is no follow-up to see if that high percentage continues and whether the MCM5 and Monsters have the same 15% problem. Conversely advocates of the other brands proclaim reliable immortality for their brands, and pooh-pooh problems with current and new models with every form of excuse or denial known to man. I don't care if we all agree or get along. I do, however, hope, if only for good manners, people discuss their personal e-wheel experiences and not pass along hear-say or conjecture. Unlike some I have no personal attachment to inanimate objects other than my satisfaction with the service they perform. I have dug through the muck of posts and tried to discern what useful information is found. I currently have come to the following "Opinions": Gotways are the performance leaders at every wheel size. Gotways seem to use materials and construction techniques to cut cost corners and have a poor QA section if any. If the poor QA standards don't bite you in the butt at delivery or slightly after, however, you are likely to have a wheel that performs as reliably as any other brand. King Song - Turned around earlier problems with initials models by moving to superb design-fit-n-finish practices and by having an effective QA component. They choose to install built-in performance limitations that keeps their wheels from performing through the 80% battery life at as high a level as the Gotways. Inmotion - high fit-n-finish and probably very reliable from the early models through the V8. They have a loyal following that is likely to upgrade and stay brand loyal. The new V10/V10F seems to be built to the same high standard as the V8 if not better. It is a robust wheel which plays more like a 17" setup than 16". It has some problems that "appear" to be firmware related in the initial batches. Ninebot - Created the "Model T", the wheel of the people in the E+. As "Ian" of Speedy Feet" stated "It is a proper bruiser .." It was tough as nail, had no frills, and at least on sale, was affordable by most interested parties. They made other "intro" wheels with only the "P" being a total failure. I can speculate on their strategy with the Z6 - Z10, but I will wait for them to get in the hands of the public and tell their "actual" story. If you suffer from "Insomnia" reads as many of my post as possible at bed time. Cheers!
  18. 11 points
    I just taught my brother-in-law how to ride. It took him about 1.5 hours and we were riding around the neighborhood. It would have been faster if I would have remembered to tell him 1 thing! Chooch really explains this well, so many of my links below are to specific parts of his explainer video. I sprinkle some extra videos in their to help as well. So I thought I would put together some progressive steps: Pad up! Helmet, elbow, wrist, knee, maybe ankle. We never fell, but this helps with confidence. Stand on the wheel and rock forward and backwards while holding on to something See 1:04 here. Do this just till they get the feel of it a little. Walk with them (similar to this, but not backwards) - They will put a LOT of weight on you. This is where you talk with them about pivoting back and fourth to help balance the side to side. This video shows pivoting, or swerving, perfectly. I Describe this to them like how you have to twist the handlebars back and fourth when riding a bike really slow. If your learning by yourself, you need a rail or wall. Tennis courts are good for this as there is a long stretch of fence. If you care about how you're wheel looks, get a strap like so... if not (I do not care how my training wheel looks) don't use a strap. I personally feel like the strap can hinder progress a little, but your wheel will get super beat up without it. Start to do some pushes with your dominant foot. This kingsong video shows the touch and glide. This video (turn on captions) does a good job showing this, he calls it the triangle method. We spend a decent amount of time on this because starting is hard and this will help them a lot. This can be painful on the smaller units (I train people on a ks14c and add extra padding). Walk with them some more. start using only one hand. Teach them different types of turning - Most people first learn how to turn by rotating their upper body and lower follows kinda like #3 above. This makes it easy to correct small movements but hard to go left, when you want to go left :). This video shows 3 types of turning. I think most people learn the third type (in that video), but but in small movements. For me, teaching them how to lower right leg to go right helped. This was the "missing" thing that instantly allowed us to go around the neighborhood. Let them go - Start with one hand, the let them go. Tips/Troubleshooting - These are some little tricks I picked up from videos & experience Trouble moving forward/Picking up speed Its hard to convince your brain to trust the wheel, one of those is in getting going. Here are some tips to tell the person when you see them doing it: Bending at the waist - Don't do it. Everyone I see try it tries to go forward by leaning forward at the waist. Bending forward at the waist does NOT put weight on your toes or help the wheel go forward. You can stand on the ground and bend over without falling forward... this shows you're not moving your center of mass forward. Also, bending forward with straight legs makes the ride very unstable and you feel like you're constantly going to fall forward. Bend at the knees, keep your shoulders up, and lean into your toes. From @ir_fuel: trick for me was to push my hips forward if I wanted to go faster. That automatically pushes all your weight to the front of the pedals. Otherwise I would just be bending over and of course nothing would happen. Go up a slight hill - I've not seen anyone talk about this but it helps a lot. Point the person towards a hill (going up) and hold their hand. Hills force you to put more weight into your toes or you stop fast and fall over. This really helps beginners feel the weight moving forward while feeling a little less scary. Trouble braking Its scary to go faster (even 5 mph) if you're not confident breaking. Here are some tips to help with it. Sit in the chair - When they feel like they are starting to go too fast, don't tell them to "lean backwards." Tell them instead to act like you are going to "sit in a chair". Sitting in a chair motino causes them to put weight into the heals with a low center of gravity, giving more control. They won't bend down really far, just a little to move center of mass backwards. Why? I kept seeing him stand up straight and try to lean backwards. The created an arc body shape (belly and butt forward with shoulders trying to lean backwards. This is sort of the backwards equivalent of bending at the waist to move forward... its bad. Bend at the knee's and act like you're going to sit backwards causes easy breaking. Note: This is also how some teach to learn backwards riding; push off a wall, sit-in-a-chair motion to trick your brain to lean backwards. Go down a hill - Hills make it easier to pick up speed when you don't want too. So you can use the hill to build confidence in breaking and practice it while holding 1-hand. Trouble balancing side-to-side Remind them how a bike rider has to turn the front wheel back and forth quickly to maintain balance. Show them #3 above. Alternative Methods: The shopping cart - Here it is. I've not tested this, but it sounds like it work great. You need access to a shopping cart though, or a parking lot where you won't get yelled at :). Your thoughts I know there are other threads on this topic. I tried to consolidate videos from them into this post to help beginners find information faster. If you have any other suggestions, post them and I'll try to maintain this with info for newbies.
  19. 11 points
    My gosh some people are hard to convince it's real. Okay, here's proof of life: MARTY AND ME AND TESSIE
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    It's very weird, I felt them less during my hill testing in the afternoon.
  23. 11 points
    Was on a weekend Father's Day camping trip to Lake Silverwood in Hesperia CA. I decided to sacrifice the fairly clean MTen3 for the cause and taught a 10 year old and my 5 year old how to ride. The ten year old has hooverboard experience. After about 20 minutes of me spotting her, she was riding on her own. She was mounting, dismounting, turning, and then going faster than I'd let her with no protection. My 5 year old still can't get on and off, but is well on his way to being my riding partner. I need to get the Gotway app to sync up so i can speed limit the MTen3. @Sketch, thanks!
  24. 11 points
    I voted yes, but tbh I'd prefer a general "Non self-balancing electric ridables" subforum. Then every interest group has a place to post, and you can see how it goes from there.
  25. 11 points
    These are screenshots of our chat group, we were talking about temperature countrol problem when climbing hills. Mr. Ye Wang, the president of Ninebot guarantees us that production Zs will tackle continuous slopes with ease. Main board has been redesigned and the control unit is fundamentally different from those in public beta units. So, even if @Marty Backe destroys the only Z10 now in the US on the overheat hill, you can still keep your hopes up. Some of my friends will bring GT16, V10F and a few production Zs to Mt. Miaofeng tomorrow, too bad I can’t join them myself but I’ll try to report their experiences later.