MrH Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 2 hours ago, RagingGrandpa said: Anyway... Appears that they are going with a coil suspension based on this picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conecones Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 The coil suspension is interesting...hopefully they did their homework and offers replacement springs with different weights. But when setup right, the reliability and long service intervals are great on coil shocks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Sure looks like it's going to be a tall wheel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellac Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, MrH said: Appears that they are going with a coil suspension based on this picture. That would be awesome and would seriously consider this wheel. No more pumping up the shock. But I’m curious, is there anything that would keep one from replacing the s18 shock with a coil shock? Do they come in the same form factor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Front and back video cameras with sound recording, removable TF card, would be good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyzeus Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Rotan said: There's not only the cutoff due to overpowering the whell, sadly having cutout for Mobo failure/burn is also a thing... it's rare but it happened, and supposedly if you plan to stick to your wheel for as long as it works, the day it will stop working it'll do so by giving up on you while you are riding, with any consequence possible. Not an electrical engineer so I may be asking stupid questions here but what causes the mobo and components to fail primarily? Is it vibrations creating micro cracks in solder, and other components and them just wearing out with time and oxidation? If it is them just wearing out with time, I wonder if it's possible to detect how close to failure a mosfet, capacitor, motherboard circuits/pathways are by measuring the resistance across the power path. If the measured resistance is xyz when brand new and after 4 years of use and oxidation the measured resistance has increased could one reliably find a number that indicates the parts are close to failure and pop a warning message that says the wheel is close to failure and disable it for anything but trolling until the issue is fixed. 7 hours ago, Rotan said: This is in my opinion the one and only weak point of our beloved eucs, and needs to be addressed. Right now the way you address that is by selling it used at the 2-3 year point and letting the eventual cutout be someone elses problem It's a less than ideal solution indeed. Edited August 25, 2021 by Heyzeus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 https://www.ansys.com/blog/top-5-reasons-solder-joint-failure 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Paul A said: https://www.ansys.com/blog/top-5-reasons-solder-joint-failure Top 5 reasons? My #1 did not even make the list. The #1 reason that I find is improper cleaning of the board before soldiering. Almost all of the failures we find are internal corrosion. They use acid to clean the boards. They do not properly remove the acid. 10 years later the connection fails due to acid corrosion. The corrosion is between the solder and the wire. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 These motor power ratings are getting ridiculous as they are so arbitrary. 3300 watt motor Still, the S20 looks enticing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbihexium Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Silver said: Sure looks like it's going to be a tall wheel Oh man, that does look tall indeed, especially with that "hat" piece sitting so high up. From what I see so far, the anesthetic of this wheel reminds me of some kind of Gundam. If the new Begode Hero is pure communism, then this thing is pure anime. Gotta get me a helmet with cat ears to ride this thing. Kinda worried about what'll happen to the spikey bits in the back during a crash though, those don't look to be made of metal like the shock is. They also might hurt somebody or cause the wheel to bounce erratically when it hits the ground during a faceplant. Edited August 25, 2021 by Unbihexium 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, Unbihexium said: If the new Begode Hero is pure communism, then this thing is pure anime. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Fine, I GUESS I'll let somebody send me one and I'll review it. I'll send it back when I'm done, but can't make promises it will survive intact. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrH Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 3 hours ago, shellac said: That would be awesome and would seriously consider this wheel. No more pumping up the shock. But I’m curious, is there anything that would keep one from replacing the s18 shock with a coil shock? Do they come in the same form factor? This person appears to have done so: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1393867080813545/posts/1512117578988494/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Whalesmash Posted August 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2021 3 hours ago, shellac said: That would be awesome and would seriously consider this wheel. No more pumping up the shock. But I’m curious, is there anything that would keep one from replacing the s18 shock with a coil shock? Do they come in the same form factor? Did mine a little around 6 months ago. It's a drop in replacement. I find that it responds to terrain quicker and smoother than the old air shock. The best thing is that there's no maintenance (unless you want to do major service on the oil chamber or something). The stock air shock leaked constantly on my model, and eventually the negative chamber died. I am looking forward to the S20's coil setup. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasz Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) I use on my S18XL FOX Float DPX2 and it MAKES the difference when comparing to the original one. Coils springs are usually not the best solution unless it is high end shock - and we can not exepct that KS will install shock valued 1/2 of the wheel cost. Edited August 25, 2021 by Lukasz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasz Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 See here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post itsmark Posted August 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2021 I am not so much worried about the performance of the shock as I am the amount of friction in the linkage and slider assemblies. I hope they learned their lesson with the s18 on that one. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 126V Can't wait to see how the board looks for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNZ Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Oh man. 70kmh would be my ideal sweet spot. Please be true, please be true… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotan Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 If these specs are real, it's good. It's the best by a huge margin and Inmotion and begode will have to work hard to stay relevant in the top end eucs... God, begode will be ashamed with their hero. I can see a few road runners disappointed by the max speed but for all the others, this definetly removes the cutoff by overpower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 If true, wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 I keep forgetting to mention this. The small glimpse of the top of the wheel shows an interesting trolley handle. It almost looks like it could double as an adjustable seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, Rotan said: [126V] this definitely removes the cutoff by overpower Challenge accepted! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseofjob Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: 126V Can't wait to see how the board looks for that. Same, wanna see that whole @EcoDrift teardown for sure. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 25 minutes ago, Rotan said: I can see a few road runners disappointed by the max speed but for all the others, this definetly removes the cutoff by overpower. Top speed is not always the reason for cutout. Going slow demanding huge amount of power to keep balance is a good way to find a weak link in electronics or battery pack/cell or wiring. Increasing volts can help but it just make every much hard to handle in control board. There is a reason to why we have yet to see 126v wheels. Not saying it cannot be done. But I guess in 24 hours or less we get to see what Kingsong has been cooking up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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