INMOTION V11 (2020)

[Łukasz]

19 minutes ago, Senior Coffee said:

One of the first things I checked when it happened was the temperature of the wheel. According to the app it was 40° Celsius.  The hill was 7.4 degrees angle of slope.  This was literally the first ride and I was in the first 5 miles on the wheel.  I had been taking it easy on the wheel before the incident because I was still getting used to it.  I was only going about 7 miles per hour up that hill.  For the people that are wondering I do wear all of my gear every ride. If it wasn't for wearing the gear I would have been hurt a lot worse.

The thought might be how bad can you be hurt going 7 miles per hour.  It was literally completely unexpected and almost a flat face plant. I had just enough time to roll to the side and my shoulder took most of the fall.  I will be practicing my rolls so that it becomes second nature and I'll be able to react faster if it ever happens again.

You reported the problem to Inmotion? Has Inmotion somehow responded to this accident?

[M640x]

7 hours ago, Paradoxedgewater said:

 

Maybe bad battery balancing?   Does the battery show 100% after taking it off the charger?

Yeah it was fully charged before I left the house.  I had charged it overnight and it showed 100%.  At the time of the incident I had approx. 89% battery.

Edited July 19, 2020 by Senior Coffee

[M640x]

45 minutes ago, Sergey said:

@Senior Coffee The glass on the light is broken?

Glass isn't broken, that's a reflection off something in the garage.  I was able to ride the wheel home which is approx. a mile.  Encountered another hill that was as steep or steeper and no incident.  I literally have no idea what caused the shut off.

[stephen]

I think @Duf would have some more content for us soon 😁 looking forward to it 👍

[Shield]

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Edited July 20, 2020 by Shield
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[Unventor]

2 hours ago, Senior Coffee said:

Glass isn't broken, that's a reflection off something in the garage.  I was able to ride the wheel home which is approx. a mile.  Encountered another hill that was as steep or steeper and no incident.  I literally have no idea what caused the shut off.

I think you should contact your reseller, and have them do an investigation on your wheel. 

It could be a bad component or loose connection, it is very hard to tell right now. 

I had similar when my KS16X got rain damaged after 45min in light rain. I just don't have the experience to do diagnosis myself and I don't have access to spare parts to do a controlled test either. That is why I prefer to have a reseller as close as possible. My reseller of my KS16X is has been great (thanks @EUniCycles.eu)

I hope you get your V11 sorted out and it is something "simple" that shows on 1 unit only rather a huge rework issue for all 1st batch units. 

I hope you will share more details once you get more info. 

[Sentient]

Could it be over charging where the battery voltage goes over the limit if left on the charger a long time.  This occured on my onewheel where the danger was if the wheel regenerated energy beyond it's set limit it would cut out.

Also, I noticed the EUC World app beeps at me and repeatedly says over charge (or something to that effect) when I leave the V8 on the charger too long.  I take it really easy till that warning goes away and the battery(bms) settles.  

I realize you were going up Hill so this is not a perfect scenario yet you did explain you had theV11 charging overnight and just had it out for a bit.

Were you running EUC world app by chance?

Edited July 19, 2020 by Sentient

[Patton250]

So any videos on how to change the tire on the V 11 yet? I will be putting the H-666 on it. 

[Flying W]

1 minute ago, Patton250 said:

So any videos on how to change the tire on the V 11 yet? I will be putting the H-666 on it. 

I'd like to see the easy way as well

[Patton250]

13 minutes ago, Flying W said:

I'd like to see the easy way as well

That take down video was nice but that’s not even close to the procedure you would use to remove the tire.

[M640x]

2 hours ago, Sentient said:

Could it be over charging where the battery voltage goes over the limit if left on the charger a long time.  This occured on my onewheel where the danger was if the wheel regenerated energy beyond it's set limit it would cut out.

Also, I noticed the EUC World app beeps at me and repeatedly says over charge (or something to that effect) when I leave the V8 on the charger too long.  I take it really easy till that warning goes away and the battery(bms) settles.  

I realize you were going up Hill so this is not a perfect scenario yet you did explain you had theV11 charging overnight and just had it out for a bit.

Were you running EUC world app by chance?

I used to have some onewheels and I did run into the regen warning going downhill with those. The battery percentage was right around 89% at the time of the incident.  I was not using the EUC world app at the time.

[M640x]

2 hours ago, Unventor said:

I think you should contact your reseller, and have them do an investigation on your wheel. 

It could be a bad component or loose connection, it is very hard to tell right now. 

I had similar when my KS16X got rain damaged after 45min in light rain. I just don't have the experience to do diagnosis myself and I don't have access to spare parts to do a controlled test either. That is why I prefer to have a reseller as close as possible. My reseller of my KS16X is has been great (thanks @EUniCycles.eu)

I hope you get your V11 sorted out and it is something "simple" that shows on 1 unit only rather a huge rework issue for all 1st batch units. 

I hope you will share more details once you get more info. 

I have already been in conversation with Jason from e wheels.  I will be sure to share the findings.

[M640x]

5 hours ago, Shield said:

Do you think that maybe the wheel cut out because you were going too slow up the incline thus generating more heat? For example, then I am drilling through metal I use a slow RPM with steady pressure. Since the drill is running at a lower RPM with downward force the motor fan isn't spinning fast enough to cool the internals so the drill gets hot. When I am quickly drilling pilot holes in wood at high RPM the drill stays much cooler.

Just a thought as to why the wheel may have cut out due to a spike in heat caused by demanding torque on an incline at a slow RPM. 

I like many others am trying to figure out why something like this would happen.  A machine of this caliber should not just cut out during a simple procedure like I was doing.  I went up the same hill with my V10 just a couple months ago with no incident.  Hell I've gone up similar hills with wheels that had much less build quality and power with no incident.  It makes no sense because I was taking it easy and going slow.  I wasn't over taxing the machine or over leaning in any way. I've got enough miles on these wheels to know how to ride them easily up a hill.  I used my angle meter to ensure that it really wasn't a steep hill.  7.4 degrees, that's it.  I'm hoping a diagnostic can be run on it to maybe see what happened.

I yelled pretty loudly when it happened number one because it hurt so much and number two because I was absolutely pissed off that a wheel of this calibre would cut out while doing such a simple slow maneuver.  I spent nearly $2K for this cutting-edge machine and it shut off on a 7 degree hill going slow.  I won't ride another wheel until I get fu^%$ super proficient at my roll technique and can do it in my sleep as the saying goes.  Plus I have to heal up, my shoulder is pretty much toast right now.  Can't move my arm much at all without a lot of pain.  Second, that was the last time I ever trust one of these wheels.  I usually ride as if I'm going to fall any second.  I wear all of my gear and have stopped even trying to shoot video while riding since it is so distracting.  I started trusting in my Z10 because it's always been so bulletproof.  I trusted that the V11 would be that way because of owning a V10 previously which was bulletproof.  Trust gone.

Edited July 19, 2020 by Senior Coffee

[M640x]

6 hours ago, Łukasz said:

You reported the problem to Inmotion? Has Inmotion somehow responded to this accident?

I don't know if I'd responded to your question.  Jason from E wheels has been handling the issue so far.  I'm waiting on word from him as to what to do next.  I'll gladly send it back for a full diagnostic to see what they find.  I'm very interested to find out what happened and why a machine of this calibre cut out while doing such a simple slow uphill ride.  I didn't even make it up the hill 50 yards.  It was totally unexpected and that's the reason I wasn't prepared for something like this to happen.  I'm 56 and respect these wheels.  I take it easy on these things and don't do tricks and very seldom ride above 20 mph.  Anyway, we'll see how it goes.

[UniVehje]

1 hour ago, Senior Coffee said:

A machine of this caliber should not just cut out during a simple procedure like I was doing.

Absolutely. I don’t think that shut off had anything to do with the slope or heat. Most likely a bad connection or component or firmware bug. That’s why it’s so important to get it to somebody who can inspect it. It’s very important for the rest of us that the root cause is found and fixed. As long as we don’t know what caused it every V11 is potentially faulty. 

Please keep us posted. And sorry that this happened to you. The trust issues is the worst. 

Edited July 19, 2020 by UniVehje

[eucinsea]

Here is the video I mentioned. I need to work on my entry level editing skills, but hopefully some enjoy this.

Oh as you will see I forgot to close the charging port, looks like a little face.   Maybe I should learn how to add a little funny animated face onto the video, ha. 
 

Edit: just changed video to 16:9 from what is was before  

 

Edited July 20, 2020 by prasket

[Jpd]

14 minutes ago, prasket said:

Here is the video I mentioned. I need to work on my entry level editing skills, but hopefully some enjoy this.

I just purchased some video equipment, hopefully I can figure out how to use it😁. I didn’t expect my EUC hobby to turn into a video hobby as well. I guess one expensive thing leads to another 

[onizukagto]

3 hours ago, UniVehje said:

 The trust issues is the worst. 

Yeah. When that happened with me on my beginner EUC, couldn't ride confidently for ages. Even know on my new V10F which I've done close to 700km with no incidents, I still can't fully trust it. 

Guess it's better to have the mentality where you are ready to fall, then the mentality of being complacent. 

Hope your shoulder gets mended well and that we find out the different problems of these 1st batch wheels. 

[eucinsea]

43 minutes ago, Jpd said:

I just purchased some video equipment, hopefully I can figure out how to use it😁. I didn’t expect my EUC hobby to turn into a video hobby as well. I guess one expensive thing leads to another 

True true Which is also what led me to buy the iPad Pro to edit all the videos. Haha

[evX_Mick]

On 7/18/2020 at 8:24 AM, Jpd said:

I think I agree. The more I ride this wheel the more it impresses me. I think INMOTION has a big hit on they’re hands. I would still like to have this wheel without suspension as well. Imagine this wheel 10 lbs lighter and 200dlls cheaper. 

People thought I was lying in my review lol. Now everyone will see how dope this product is. not sexy or exciting, but very LEGIT!

[Ben Kim]

20 minutes ago, evX_Mick said:

People thought I was lying in my review lol. Now everyone will see how dope this product is. not sexy or exciting, but very LEGIT!

i never doubted you. People get butthurt if it doesn’t jibe with their confirmation bias. Nothing is wrong with a 35-40 mile >31 mph wheel that isn’t Gotway. 

[VizioN-Scope]

 

[onizukagto]

48 minutes ago, VizioN-Scope said:

 

The result of the partial range test, still show numbers based upon the pre-production model.
I think his IOS app isn't calibrated? or updated? He did say that in the IOS app, he can put the speed up to 55km/h which is unusual as inmotion said that it will only be possible via a different version for EUC forum enthusiast.
He didn't download anything special except what was on the ios app market. (correct me if im wrong) .

commenter on the video said:

"70.4 volts should be 36%, looks like they still see 68 volts as 0% which is insane"

What is the typical voltage that is considered 0%?

[evX_Mick]

3 hours ago, prasket said:

Here is the video I mentioned. I need to work on my entry level editing skills, but hopefully some enjoy this.

Oh as you will see I forgot to close the charging port, looks like a little face.   Maybe I should learn how to add a little funny animated face onto the video, ha. 
 

 

dont drop acid before watching this. It won't go well for you haha

[Sentient]

4 hours ago, prasket said:

Here is the video I mentioned. I need to work on my entry level editing skills, but hopefully some enjoy this.

Oh as you will see I forgot to close the charging port, looks like a little face.   Maybe I should learn how to add a little funny animated face onto the video, ha. 
 

 

Great video. Much appreciated! Keep em coming. Future V11 owners are clamoring for this stuff:))

Soon I will be riding this beast too but until then it's this forum and videos that keep me going lol.