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  1. UniVehje

    Finnish riders - Suomalaiset ajajat

    @Ziiten Olen huomannut, että sulle tulee Z10! Täällä olis varmaan useampi, joita kiinnostaa nähdä ja testata tuo peli. Lähdetkö mukaan miittiin joskus?
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    New Inmotion V10 (V8 Fast)

    Thank you for the information. This new battery case is good development. But what should I do if I find that there has been water inside when I open my wheel? If I have to change my tire in the future and open the case, should I re-apply the sealant every time? Any info about the fire? Did you know that imscv.com and inmotionworld.com have been down for a while now? These might be the channels some people will try to reach Inmotion at. I know you are responsible only for Inmotion USA but also the only ones people can actually reach besides the sellers.
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    New Inmotion V10 (V8 Fast)

    I really hope they do the right thing and just recall and start over with a new batch of wheels. Jason hinted that they have done a lot of impovements on them. The first batch was 200 wheels and it would probably cost around 100 000 - 150 000 € to recall and replace them all. A lot of money but might be worth it in a long run. If I didn’t read this forum I would still be extremely happy with my V10F. I have no issues with it. And I really like many aspects of it. Lately I have been using it for work and I appreciate the comfort and how easy it is to change settings for different shoes and riding styles. InMotion has done so many things right that I really hope they get past this. I’m sure they have a great future with many great wheels. But now there is this fire issue looming over them. That is so serious that it cannot be ignored. I thought it was a bummer that I bought an expensive wheel and then have to finish the assembly process myself. I was relatively ok with that as I took the risk preordering on the first batch. But now I’m not sure what else is worse than the later batches. They must be open and share everything. Maybe the fire was completely unrelated but until that is confirmed the only logical thing is to worry about our wheels. I will open my V10F this weekend and see if there are any sings of water and what the battery sealing looks like.
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    New Inmotion V10 (V8 Fast)

    Also, are there any pictures of later batches? They say it’s not a problem anymore but has the battery also been improved?
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    New Inmotion V10 (V8 Fast)

    Maybe snip out from here on the first post with the fire issue. Pretty much nothing else has been discussed since. Are you (or others) aware of any previous cases of EUCs burning?
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    New Inmotion V10 (V8 Fast)

    Yep, good point. Could well have something to do with disassembling and messing up something. The batteries should have enough safety protection that they don't just burn. This is one reason the DIY solution might be a really bad idea. Anyway, still not enough information to panic. Any wheel from the new batch should be fine anyway. But us early adopters have something to worry about.
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    New Inmotion V10 (V8 Fast)

    Wow. After reading all the information above, I'm starting to think the best course of action for InMotion is to just recall all the wheels and send new ones from a better batch. Especially the DIY method sounds bad. How are we supposed to be able to inspect the wheel thoroughly in case of something being damaged already? What if I find some traces of water inside? What if I'm not able to seal it properly? If the fire has any connection to the water issue, then it's not just a matter of warranty covering any previous damage.
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    Electricunicycles.eu reputation?

    What a tease! Very exciting to see this industry developing. I have already reserved money for a new wheel for next season. Hopefully next spring will have many new toys to choose from.
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    New Inmotion V10 (V8 Fast)

    You are right that there's nothing to be learned from this yet. Except to take the batteries seriously with EVERY brand of wheels. Until it's confirmed that the cause was something InMotion factory screwed up, we should assume the risk to apply to all brands. The cells themselves rarely have faults but it's not impossible that LG or Panasonic screws something up. And also all the DIY battery enlargements/replacements carry this risk. Even a faulty part in some battery management system can cause fire. It's rare but serious when it happens. This is a good reminder or that. Another thing to consider is our treatment of these wheels. Hard crashes and falls can break something. No water sealing is permanent. Even the best water resistant wheel could start leaking after some use and a few crashes. I'm sure Inmotion and other brands have designed redundancies around the batteries as they should. But as these get more popular, there will always be idiots abusing and hacking their toys. The authorities will not care what the cause was if there starts to be regulations. I would hate it if batteries get banned from public transports or inside shopping centres etc. The secrecy in this case is probably due to the fire. It's one thing to have a faulty wheel and another thing to be responsible for a fire. Their defence seems to be that they reacted correctly but their instructions were not followed. It doesn't mean they are denying responsibility for the possible fault in the wheel but that the fire is on the user. The investigation is ongoing and neither party is unlikely to say anything publicly yet. The whole water sealing warning from Inmotion could be part of their damage control to show that they act responsibly. But no matter what the real cause is, InMotion is going to take a big hit from this. Pretty much the worst case scenario for them. Even if they have done everything right and their product didn't have anything wrong with it, the investigation could go on for a long time and meanwhile their sales could take a slump. Even the distributors might want to hold on for a while to avoid risks.
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    New Inmotion V10 (V8 Fast)

    Ian at speedyFeet commented on the fire issue briefly on his show. It is serious. But looks like InMotion’s instructions were not followed. Something still was wrong if they had been talking to the owner. Too early to say anything certain or whether it was a faulty wheel or abuse by the user. But a good reminder that these big batteries are potentially dangerous. @Bobwheel or @Jeffrey Scott Will please keep us updated on this. If you guys find the reason it would be good to know. On mobile so I cannot link directly to the spot but go to 57:47 mark.
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    New Inmotion V10 (V8 Fast)

    That fire looks serious. If the cause ends up being a manufacturing mistake, they should recall all wheels. I’m not too happy about opening the wheel. But I’m not going to send my wheel to San Diego from Finland. At least I get a chance to change the tire at the same time. I will try Chao Yang in hopes of it being less bouncy. If the new batches have significant improvements and there are not too many V10s out there, maybe they could just recall all the wheels and send a new one to everybody. I know it’s very unlikely. But we first customers have been beta testers now and it doesn’t feel nice to have inferior product because of it. Interesting to see what improvements there are and if the heat problem has been fixed in hardware. But that fire issue needs to be inspected seriously. That could get expensive for dealers if that was not some user error. We have a case in Finland where the importer and dealer of e-bikes has to pay high damages to the insurance company because one of their e-bikes might have caused a house to burn down.
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    New Inmotion V10 (V8 Fast)

    I think they accidentally allowed to pre-order to other countries. I didn’t know how the company worked and just followed their link and pre-ordered and paid the deposit to my address. They were kind enough to follow through and arranged a special page for me that allowed me to do the final order and got the wheel shipped directly from the factory to Finland. I thought that was really good service from them. I’m assuming normally European customers should order from somewhere else. I wish there were InMotion Europe also or just one company representing globally. The team at InMotion USA clearly does the best job at running their marketing and customer relations. The product from a Chinese factory is having some teething issues but their brand management is doing everything right. If they get all the remaining issued ironed out, this will be a killer combination.
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    New Inmotion V10 (V8 Fast)

    That is completely normal.
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    New Inmotion V10 (V8 Fast)

    Inmotion certainly is a bit confusing company in this regard. Looks like they have the InMotion USA as a separate business (I bought directly from them although I life in Finland). Then there is New Walkings in France representing Inmotion in a similar case. InMotion SCV global is probably the real manufacturer. The representatives active here are not directly employed by InMotion SCV if I understand correctly. I don’t know if eWheels acts as a distributor directly under InMotion SCV global company or InMotion USA. I have no idea if this water issue was found by InMotion USA or the global company and why other distributors have not addressed the issue yet.
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    My Inmotion V10F Triumphs, Tribulations, and Failures

    Don't worry about it. All the wheels are using similar tires and it's ok. They are using small bicycle tires and there are no tires developed specifically for EUCs.
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