KingSong 16X 1554Wh 2200W 16*3in (Released July 2019)

[Gustesta]

18 hours ago, RoadRunner said:

Well i had a really nice day. 

Last weekend i received my CST 1488 tire and i couldn’t wait to get it changed and try it out.

So as i wanted to visit Chris and Benni from 1radwerkstatt anyways i thought its a good opportunity to go there meet those guys get the tire changed and do a test ride with them.

Today i took the tire and my 2 wheels hopped in my car and rode 180km to Ballhausen, small village in the east, where 1radwerkstatt is based.

Really nice countryside, beautiful nature, and those guys are amazing, very down to earth, i like that. And they got plenty of machines and knowledge , Chris father is a mechanical engineer and he’s got a big hall with even bigger machines.

When i got there Chris also couldn’t wait to change the tire, because he hates the stock tire like i do, but my CST came before his. 

So Benni did the tire change and Chris updated my FW on the XL, i was still on 1.11, i didn’t do the update myself because i am more scared of updates than going 45kph on one wheel.  HELLO KINGSONG!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE DO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MAKE FW UPDATES VIA USB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I must say the stock tire is really really soft when not on the wheel and not pumped up, to soft.

 We went for a ride when another friend showed up with a 16X which was really cool so we could compare them.

And i tell you what the CST tire is great Chris loved it as well and said now he can finally ride the X without being f..ed up from that gyro feeling. He felt it in the first few seconds and i did as well. Completely different experience.

We had a great ride, and i tried out some other wheels, the MSX and the Mten3, i really liked the MSX, felt comfortable within the first minute. Great wheel, might have to get it.  

So first of all i have to say a big thank you to Chris and Benni and if you are from Europe and you need a new wheel, or have problems with your wheel, call those guys from 1radwerkstatt, great guys, exellent knowledge.

And if you want to really enjoy the 16X get that shitty tire off and put on the CST.

Its so good that when i got home at 02:00 in the morning i just rode it for half an hour through the dark empty streets with a happy smile on my face. 

Also it felt that the break wobbles are gone and i don’t have that side to side banging anymore.

So at the end i had a great day, made some new really nice friends and i have a wheel now that i can enjoy.

 

Please, where did you get those tires?  

Thanks

[DragonFZ]

 

34 minutes ago, Jon Stern said:

Really old! I'm only 51 1/2.

You're Old too... I just turned 50

Edited August 15, 2019 by DragonFZ

[cyfur]

Sup fellas.

Got a response email from Jason about 2 hours ago regarding sea-freight 16Xs.

[CampDylan]

2 hours ago, DragonFZ said:

52!!! You're OLD!!!

Indeed, lol.  I still brush off wipe-outs pretty easily though...I didn't even mention the two scooter wrecks I had only 2 years ago in Phoenix - one was from a giant, flying tarp in a windstorm that came at me from over the rooftops completely wrapping me and the entire scooter as I tried to outrun it, lol, then getting wedged under the front tire thus throwing us rudely to the ground.  Gashes and a jammed toe, wearing my SHOEI modular but didn't even touch my head to the pavement.  One month later a guy cuts me off and I crashed the same way opening nearly all the exact wounds!  That time I had the wherewithal to ask a horrified witness to take my photo before I got off the pavement, lol:  (I'm old on paper, but I'm young...)

 

[CampDylan]

29 minutes ago, DragonFZ said:

You're Old too... I just turned 50

Nice - what did you do for that Milestone??  I did a mini Vision Quest camping alone up in Sedona for a week.  Amazing!

[Rehab1]

22 minutes ago, cyfur said:

Sup fellas.

Got a response email from Jason about 2 hours ago regarding sea-freight 16Xs.

Exciting! Given where you live you should have your 16X by Tuesday or Wednesday at the latest. 

[RoadRunner]

1 hour ago, Gustesta said:

Please, where did you get those tires?  

Thanks

Just ordered them. 

[Rehab1]

5 hours ago, Nils said:

Precisely! No point in thinking any previous training will cover you adequately in all type of falls. Sure, previous fall training from martial arts, etc., will serve you well in some circumstances where there's some leeway, but in others you won't even have the time to say "oh shit" because you're busy hitting the ground

True! I had just enough time to say ‘Oh’! 

[ir_fuel]

6 minutes ago, RoadRunner said:

Just ordered them. 

Maybe a link would be handy.

I've been looking on aliexpress, but I don't know if it's the right tyre, as the 1488 number is nowhere to be found.

 

example:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32813716312.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000014.1.51d27a7fsB6417&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.13338.128206.0&scm_id=1007.13338.128206.0&scm-url=1007.13338.128206.0&pvid=59615a89-0184-4ea4-b7f2-27c7eaf161dc

[RoadRunner]

https://www.mein-reifen-guru.de/produkt/CST/C-1488/16x3.00--/R-383219

that’s where i got it from 

or there

https://www.reifendirekt.de/rshop/Reifen/Dunlop/C-1/16x3-00-TT-schwarz/R-383219

ebay has them as well.

 

Edited August 15, 2019 by RoadRunner

[ir_fuel]

Nice. If this really solves the wobble under braking problem I might need to do a small road trip to 1radwerkstatt it seems  (my wheel comes from there).

[RoadRunner]

4 minutes ago, ir_fuel said:

Nice. If this really solves the wobble under braking problem I might need to do a small road trip to 1radwerkstatt it seems  (my wheel comes from there).

I think sending the wheel to them would be better and cheaper. 

[DragonFZ]

1 hour ago, CampDylan said:

Nice - what did you do for that Milestone??  I did a mini Vision Quest camping alone up in Sedona for a week.  Amazing!

That sounds fun... I didn't do anything and Ordered the KS 16X... LOL

[Gustesta]

41 minutes ago, RoadRunner said:

Just ordered them. 

Where?

[RoadRunner]

Read the post above.

[Gustesta]

29 minutes ago, RoadRunner said:

Read the post above.

But I'm looking for the CYT tire, not the CST. 

[Jon Stern]

41 minutes ago, DragonFZ said:

That sounds fun... I didn't do anything and Ordered the KS 16X... LOL

I didn't do anything for my 50th. I was too busy with my 3 year old daughter and preparing for the imminent arrival of my son. 😮

[Jon Stern]

1 minute ago, Gustesta said:

But I'm looking for the CYT tire, not the CST. 

Why the CYT?

[Mike Sacristan]

Today I went for a cruise with Petra. After a few hours we met up with @Azze80 for some chill in the evening sun. He had his brand new 16X with him.
Thanks @Azze80 for letting me try it. I love it. It clicked instantly, felt very nimble and slim enough for me. I tried getting it up to speed a bit and got a bit of a wobble. I remember learning the MSX and getting speed wobbles at 30-35. I can still get wobble from time to time depending on factors like wind, foot position, stance, etc. Definitely a 3" tire. Trams and follows irregular waves on the road. I come from an MSX though so nothing new. Also definitely a 16" tire. Easier to move around and especially easier up hill. And listen to that sound? What is that sound? It's nothing... not the whining squeal from the 18XL. Oink oink.

Anyway... I made a little clip for you guys. Enjoy.

 

[Gustesta]

4 minutes ago, Jon Stern said:

Why the CYT?

@eddiemoy said that would the best option.  He tried all of them. 

[DragonFZ]

2 hours ago, cyfur said:

Sup fellas.

Got a response email from Jason about 2 hours ago regarding sea-freight 16Xs.

Just got my email from Jason and balance paid... this is going to be a long week

[Gustesta]

My opinion on the 16x (I've owned: Z10, Tesla, V10F, MCM5, KS18s and others):

Excellent wheel overall

Wheel is ABSOLUTELY SILENT!  

Tire is not as bad as a lot of people are saying.  I'm 200 pounds and 29 PSI does the job for me.  

Carving is absolutely possible and a lot of fun.  I'll make a video soon.

Acceleration and top speed are excellent.  Also, it's very stable at high speeds.

Wobbling is just a matter of technique + tire pressure.  Reducing the tire pressure gonna help.  If you stand up still when the wobbling start, chances it'll go away are high.

I haven't had any problems with the Android app you can download directly from Kingsong website.  You can unlock speed right away.

It's a heavy wheel, but very nimble.

It's a very comfortable wheel.  Much more comfortable than the MSX, but less comfortable than the KING V10F.

I really would like to compare it to a Nikola.

My shoes are 12 and the pedals are not large.  

BTW, 50 kmh our 31 mph is enough for me.  It's very scary!  

 

 

Edited August 16, 2019 by Gustesta

[Jon Stern]

I'm suspecting that you're not getting wobbles because you're 200lbs.

After getting near-death wobbles this afternoon I pulled over and let out more air. I'll have to check, but I wouldn't be surprised if I'm at 15psi now!

Now I get hardly any wobbles, but the ride is a bit softer than I'd like, and I'm afraid of getting a puncture.

I'm getting more and more tempted to chance to the CST tire.

[Gustesta]

7 minutes ago, Jon Stern said:

I'm suspecting that you're not getting wobbles because you're 200lbs.

After getting near-death wobbles this afternoon I pulled over and let out more air. I'll have to check, but I wouldn't be surprised if I'm at 15psi now!

Now I get hardly any wobbles, but the ride is a bit softer than I'd like, and I'm afraid of getting a puncture.

I'm getting more and more tempted to chance to the CST tire.

They say the CYT tires are even better and KS will use it on the 16x at the next batches.

Regarding the wobbling, try to stand up still tight when you start getting it.

 

[eucinsea]

8 minutes ago, Gustesta said:

They say the CYT tires are even better and KS will use it on the 16x at the next batches. 

 

Do you think that includes batch 2? I got an email about an hour ago that next batch for ewheels has cleared customs and ship Monday. I wonder how we can find out if those are batch 2 and/or have CYT tire?