Rehab1 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Rywokast said: yea it was the ebay link i posted here https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Pebble-Time-Smartwatch-Black/223564391114?hash=item340d79e2ca:g:go8AAOSw2QtdERf9 that ones a rip off rehab the pebble time is much better and its cheaper from this lot on ebay.. seems they only have a few left though Ugh! Thanks for the tip. I attempted to cancel my Amazon order but it was too late. I may just send it back and order your version. The reviews on mine are all over the place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiemoy Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, chrisjunlee said: What's your foot positioning, body weight and PSI? I don't think it's the wheel, and would love to see something common we're doing. Mine is slightly staggered, rear foot maybe 10 degrees pointing out (I'm slowly working on getting them parallel). Feet are both close to the wheel (vs wide and not touching). Body weight: 140lbs, 20 PSI. I did most of my miles on 30 PSI, and saw an improvement in wobbles lowering to 20PSI. Tempted to try even lower, but afraid of getting a pinch flat when I have no clue how to get this thing serviced. Just to be clear, oscillation is forward and backwards shaking of the wheel body. Kind of like what happen to Kuji, but at a fine level. I captured it in my review of the preproduction unit. It only starts somewhere about 45km/h and gets really bad towards 50km/h. Amazing it doesn't throw you. Forward and backwards movement in the wheel is firmware related as the wheel is supposed to balance you forward and backwards. wobbles are side to side. This is controlled or caused by the user. From what I gather, it is either fatigue or foot placement and sometimes you get it when braking with bent knees. with straight leg it immediately goes away. again, has to do with unequal pressure on the pedals and it resonating through you. High speed wobbles are the worse, kind of like on a bike when you have a snapping of the front wheel, will throw you. I am at 145, 18psi. I should be at 20psi also since that was what i used with the preproduciton CYT tire. you are good, i wouldn't worry about pinched flat. you are not heavy enough. I've been riding with low tire pressure for over a year, none of my wheels have flats. I ride my 18" KS at 28psi. 16" 2.125" tire, i use 35psi. The bigger the tire, the lower you can go. I don't ride with staggered leg, I ride with parallel toes pointing out. it is a preference. Everyone will ride differently, not necessarily good or bad. You have to find your own style. Good is to try different ones see which ones work well for you. I usualy ride with my leg up against the body, zero clearance, worked well with the all wheels without gyro effect. I tried to ride with leg against the 16X body, that didn't work well, so I had to step about 1/2 inch away because of the gyro issue. That worked well. Hope this helps. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrelwood Posted August 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Tadas said: 42 mA balancing current, 3 cells in parallel each 3500 mAh, so that's 10500 mAh. 1% imbalance would be 105 mAh and take 2.5 hours to balance. The balancing current drops constantly as the BMS balances the cells, so the time gets longer and longer. 3 hours ago, chrisjunlee said: I have high hopes in Gotway's solution: the Nikola 100V+. Either you haven’t read the responses you’ve gotten, or you have rejected the physics of your issue. Stop for one minute, and try to answer these questions: - If the torque that the 16X applies when you start to ride uphill is insufficient, which power or force is it that keeps the wheel upright and the pedals flat? - If the wheel would apply more power to the motor as it currently does in that situation, would the wheel stay upright or fall backwards? The issue you are facing is not related to the battery, control board or motor. They already do everything that is required to keep the wheel upright. No wheel can do anything different. If it stays upright, it is capable of delivering all the torque and power that you have asked from it. 3 hours ago, buell47 said: Can some other confirm that? I’m sure everybody who weighs nothing and have started with the mTen a few weeks ago, and who feel that the MCM5 is huge in size and lazy to accelerate. 3 hours ago, buell47 said: I ordered the 16X to drive it offroad and of course also extreme slopes where my V8 fails. If ”failing” means that the wheel can no longer stay upright, then yes, 16X has roughly 3 times the power. If ”failing” means that you are unable to lean enough, then the 16X will ”fail” worse. 39 minutes ago, chrisjunlee said: I want something tuned for low-effort torque (mten3/MCM5) + wide tire (mten3) + a suspension-like cushy ride (MCM5). If you want a wheel that behaves like a 10” or 14” wheel, why are you even considering an(other) 17” wheel? 39 minutes ago, chrisjunlee said: I heard the Nikola 100V is a beefed up MCM5 - that sold me hard. What happened to the lazy acceleration of your MCM5? Did you modify the mainboard to give you more torque? Exactly. ”Beefed up” means it is bigger. Bigger wheels accelerate slower with the same amount of lean. That is a physical fact that remains a fact wether you believe it or not. If you keep ignoring this, you’ll just keep disappointing and losing money, wheel after wheel. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patton250 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 31 minutes ago, Rehab1 said: Ugh! Thanks for the tip. I attempted to cancel my Amazon order but it was too late. I may just send it back and order your version. The reviews on mine are all over the place. Which one did you order from Amazon? Now I’m confused. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Patton250 said: Which one did you order from Amazon? Now I’m confused. LOL https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BKEQBI0/ref=psdc_7939901011_t3_B0106IS5XY this one that i believe you linked previously.. that is the original pebble watch.. the one i linked on ebay is the pebble time which is the second iteration of the watch and much nicer if you ask me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleepBloopBlop Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 In terms of this oscillation I'm confused if I'm experiencing it, but since my riding weight geared up is ~195lbs & 5'11"my body dampens it out. At high speeds a feel a slight ticking like the tire isn't balanced, but that is it. I consistently ride at 48kph right before the pedals start to tilt back. Riding the tiltback gets really wild as it gets more aggressive if you don't mind it and keep pushing through it. It tilted me WAY back when I was seeing how hard I could lean into it (52.3 kph). Now that I've tested the limits I run into the tilt back then slow slightly until I'm flat and its not beeping at me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patton250 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, Rywokast said: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BKEQBI0/ref=psdc_7939901011_t3_B0106IS5XY this one that i believe you linked previously.. that is the original pebble watch.. the one i linked on ebay is the pebble time which is the second iteration of the watch and much nicer if you ask me I ordered this. It’s on the way. Is this wrong??? The link you provided was from Canada so I went with the new one from Amazon. I thought they were the same thing https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0106IS5XY?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patton250 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, BleepBloopBlop said: In terms of this oscillation I'm confused if I'm experiencing it, but since my riding weight geared up is ~195lbs & 5'11"my body dampens it out. At high speeds a feel a slight ticking like the tire isn't balanced, but that is it. I consistently ride at 48kph right before the pedals start to tilt back. Riding the tiltback gets really wild as it gets more aggressive if you don't mind it and keep pushing through it. It tilted me WAY back when I was seeing how hard I could lean into it (52.3 kph). Now that I've tested the limits I run into the tilt back then slow slightly until I'm flat and its not beeping at me. I am not experiencing oscillation on my 16X at any speed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, Patton250 said: I ordered this. It’s on the way. Is this wrong??? The link you provided was from Canada so I went with the new one from Amazon. I thought they were the same thing https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0106IS5XY?ref=ppx_pt2_mob_b_prod_image no its right thats the pebble time.. oh was it haha sry didnt realise.. thats the exact same thing as the ebay link i posted because i wasnt aware it was also on amazon i dont usually ever go on amazon.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CampDylan Posted August 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Unventor said: This is not the thread for this. What about the KS16x's ability to pop wheelies? Can we talk about that here? 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CampDylan Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Nils said: In light of the latest forum tensions following the 16X release, could we just not all try to avoid the cheap shots? Hear, hear! I mean, it might be interesting if the admins would start requiring ages to be disclosed - at least then we could almost forgive some language and rhetoric? Then possibly castigate accordingly, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Paolini Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 5 hours ago, chrisjunlee said: I would like to see a video of you climbing a 20-25% hill from a dead stop. It's an exhausting experience for me compared to mten3 or MCM5. Put it another way: on the mten3 and MCM5, you can carve uphill with ease. On the 16X, at least for me, it feels like I'm crawling when I'm literally on my tippy toes (nothing else touching the pedal besides the balls of my feet, and my legs gripping the wheel for support as I michael jackson lean forward). I do this regularly on the KS16x. But then I also bend at the knees to put my body weight forward rather than wearing out my toes. The KS16x feels zipper to me then the MCM5 or my mTen3 (I own both). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mike Paolini Posted August 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2019 @Jon Stern Hey guys, I just heard a rumor that KingSong may have found the random Tiltback and corrected it - the rumor is that it was the Bluetooth Audio was causing radio interference with the board, and that they have a firmware patch to fix it. Hoping it is a rumor based on facts. In the mean time I may try switching back to my UE Boom instead of the onboard speakers and seeing if I get random low speed high torque tiltback. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleepBloopBlop Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Funny as after hard breaking my music stops playing on occasion haha. I was wondering what the deal with that was. Hopefully this new firmware fixes it right up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CampDylan Posted August 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Patton250 said: most people dont have big houses with garages where they keep their PEVs Damn-straight, lol - I stay in a 2-man tent on the side of a cliff overlooking the ocean so I'll be charging mine at work. Problem is I'm barely at work 8 hours in a day, sometimes less so I'll probably need to sacrifice a day for the initial charge. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Paolini Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 27 minutes ago, BleepBloopBlop said: Funny as after hard breaking my music stops playing on occasion haha. I was wondering what the deal with that was. Hopefully this new firmware fixes it right up! You should report that to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjunlee Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 42 minutes ago, Mike Paolini said: The KS16x feels zipper to me then the MCM5 or my mTen3 (I own both). Wow. How much do you weight? And how big are your feet? I'm 140lbs and a size 7.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjunlee Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, CampDylan said: Damn-straight, lol - I stay in a 2-man tent on the side of a cliff overlooking the ocean so I'll be charging mine at work. Problem is I'm barely at work 8 hours in a day, sometimes less so I'll probably need to sacrifice a day for the initial charge. Jason throws in a 5A quick charger 😎 Pair it up with the stock 1.5A charger for 6.5A. Although opinions are divided on mixing chargers, it's been working fine for me, and probably OK a couple of times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mike Paolini Posted August 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, chrisjunlee said: Wow. How much do you weight? And how big are your feet? I'm 140lbs and a size 7.5. Size 12 US feet. 6'1", 220 pounds. But if you look at Kuji's results (he's a small light weight guy), it's not about the foot size or weight (though this brings a different set of characteristics to bear), it's about proper technique using the body not the toes. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 48 minutes ago, Mike Paolini said: Hey guys, I just heard a rumor that KingSong may have found the random Tiltback and corrected it - the rumor is that it was the Bluetooth Audio was causing radio interference with the board, and that they have a firmware patch to fix it. If true, this would be the second time that Kingsong has been surprised by unexpected electromagnetism 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micheal Shen Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 On 8/4/2019 at 8:39 PM, Unventor said: It really doesn't matter how other wheels feel like if you like your KS16X. I still have 2 weeks before I have a chance to get mine. But I am sure it will be great once I get it. Would be fantastic if they make a traffic light mode, that uses the big lid rings for front/rear light, and blinking as you break. @Micheal Shen is that possible? Blinking not safe for the riders coming after you. When you brake, the red light will be lighting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelr Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Rywokast said: curious why the 100V though, if anything it should have the same torque/acceleration given its an identical motor and everything else only thing they changed was the board.. all of marty raves about it about how responsive and fantastic of a riding wheel it was were on his 84V and i dont recall him saying the 100 feels any different, anybody who gets it gets it for the higher top end speed... just seems like a lot of extra money if you dont plan to use that higher speed I heard the 100V has a 10% boost over the 84V. Seems worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patton250 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, wheelr said: I heard the 100V has a 10% boost over the 84V. Seems worthwhile. Wow I didn’t hear that at all. I’ve been considering upgrading and everybody has said just the opposite. In fact the only thing the 100v does different is go faster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Stern Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Mike Paolini said: @Jon Stern Hey guys, I just heard a rumor that KingSong may have found the random Tiltback and corrected it - the rumor is that it was the Bluetooth Audio was causing radio interference with the board, and that they have a firmware patch to fix it. Hoping it is a rumor based on facts. In the mean time I may try switching back to my UE Boom instead of the onboard speakers and seeing if I get random low speed high torque tiltback. I haven't even tried the BT audio yet. I've not even paired it. Of course, the EMI could still be there between the circuits, even when I'm not playing audio. Often that can only be fixed by shielding, but sometimes it can be resolved by changing a clock speed to move the harmonics out of the critical band. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, wheelr said: I heard the 100V has a 10% boost over the 84V. Seems worthwhile. yea in top speed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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