Ben Kim Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, onizukagto said: I saw on hsiang video that under the graphic sticker, it looks like physical push button (with 2 - 3mm travel) that are countersunk into the shell and are mounted on the circuit board beneath, can you confirm? If that is the case, the "bubble" on the graphical sticker, is simple there to help you push the button underneath, it's not essential to operating the buttons. Precisely this. The sticker is mostly decorative for the buttons, and mostly there to protect the LCD display from dust and moisture. I still find it funny some people in this thread thought that thing would be glass. C'mon, this is China we're talking about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shellac Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 6 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said: High quality photos of the Sherman and its disassembly, by the ever fantastic @EcoDrift guys!! Photo article Disassembly article Sherman first impressions video All pictures by @EcoDrift. LOTS more in the links! [ Here is the link to their fantastic tech blog with all their articles, by the way. Whenever a new wheel is avaliable, a few days later these guys deliver! Original link: https://ecodrift.ru/category/blog/ Translated link: click ] That video review doesn’t sound entirely positive but of course I can’t tell what they’re saying. Can anyone translate or give us the gist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 3 hours ago, onizukagto said: I saw on hsiang video that under the graphic sticker, it looks like physical push button (with 2 - 3mm travel) that are countersunk into the shell and are mounted on the circuit board beneath, can you confirm? If that is the case, the "bubble" on the graphical sticker, is simple there to help you push the button underneath, it's not essential to operating the buttons. Of course, not "essentially". I'm just saying that laying a plain sticker over the panel is going to be sub-optimal. Check out the Ecodrift tear down videos/pictures. They can probably answer detailed questions like yours. I'm not going to be tearing into this wheel myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ..... Posted July 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) On 7/5/2020 at 12:18 AM, Jon Stern said: He's looking very happy. That's a good sign! Marty always looks happy. He's retired (from an absurdly high paying profession) and has a collection of wheels. You couldnt tear the smile off my face if that was the case... I'd bet he's even smiling as he reads me picking on him.... Edited July 6, 2020 by ShanesPlanet 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Stern Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ShanesPlanet said: Marty always looks happy. He's retired (from an absurdly high paying profession) and has a collection of wheels. You couldnt tear the smile off my face if that was the case... I'd bet he's even smiling as he reads me picking on him.... You're so right! I went back and re-watched his wobble accident video, and you know what? As he's going down, I'm sure he's grinning from ear to ear.! Edited July 6, 2020 by Jon Stern 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Jon Stern said: You're so right! I went back a re-watched his wobble accident video, and you know what? As he's going down, I'm sure he's grinning from ear to ear.! 1 hour ago, ShanesPlanet said: Marty always looks happy. He's retired (from an absurdly high paying profession) and has a collection of wheels. You couldnt tear the smile off my face if that was the case... I'd bet he's even smiling as he reads me picking on him.... You guys are hilarious 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will R Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 6 hours ago, Marty Backe said: If they copied Gotway's process, you have to remove the Bluetooth module and plug the updater into that port. That's where I'd put my money. That's what has been now confirmed. We need one of these bad boys: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post onizukagto Posted July 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2020 Bold words @Marty Backe bold words. Haha 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 minute ago, onizukagto said: Bold words @Marty Backe bold words. Haha You should know that I have my own Veteran thread in this group with all of this information. Thanks for following me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will R Posted July 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2020 You know Marty's serious when the Cape comes back out... 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted July 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Will R said: You know Marty's serious when the Cape comes back out... For my high-speed, hard running, range test, the cape seemed appropriate 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will R Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 With a wheel this quick you may be best suited to a wingsuit 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazarinho Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Ben Kim said: I don’t even think it’s “brand new” one of the charge ports is installed upside down, and the interior shell shot shows a wheel that is clearly not new. Maybe it's the same wheel Kuji got for testing. I noticed the upside down charge port in his video too, and he was riding in rain, which could explain the rust. Edited July 6, 2020 by Tazarinho 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onizukagto Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Yyeeeaahhh! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post fbhb Posted July 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) Kuji just posted a photo of his New street tire fitted to the Sherman! Looks like a nice beefy tread pattern, still trying to find out what the brand/size etc. is from him. Edit: Kuji has since confirmed it is a 14x2.75" (his words, but should read: 2.75-14 as per M/C tire specs) Kenda K340 he purchased in China Edited July 8, 2020 by fbhb 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, fbhb said: Kuji just posted a photo of his New street tire fitted to the Sherman! Looks like a nice beefy tread pattern, still trying to find out what the brand/size etc. is from him. Edit: Kuji has since confirmed it is a 14x2.75" Kenda K340 he purchased in China Shouldn't that be a 20x2.75" Kenda K340? ...Or maybe 18x2.75" Kenda K340 as I can't find a 20" K340 tyre? https://www.ityre.com/en/tyres/catalog/kenda/model/22071/ Edited July 7, 2020 by Nic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shield Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Nic said: Shouldn't that be a 20x2.75" Kenda K340? ...Or maybe 18x2.75" Kenda K340 as I can't find a 20" K340 tyre? https://www.ityre.com/en/tyres/catalog/kenda/model/22071/ 2.75 X 14 is pretty much the same as 18 X 3.0, I believe it's how they number motorcycle tires. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nic Posted July 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Shield said: 2.75 X 14 is pretty much the same as 18 X 3.0, I believe it's how they number motorcycle tires. Nope... TYRE SIDEWALL MARKINGS AND NUMBERS Motorcycle tyre wall markings explained Let’s take a look at the tyre sidewall markings that are important. 1. TYRE WIDTH This number denotes the width of the tyre in millimeters from sidewall to sidewall. In this example, it’s 180 mm. The exact width may vary slightly due to manufacturing and tuning characteristics at +/- of 4%. 2. PROFILE HEIGHT This number is the tyre height and is calculated as a percentage of the tyre width. So in this example, the tyre profile height is 55% of the tyre width (180 mm), making it 99 mm. 3. SPEED RATING AND CONSTRUCTION The speed rating of the tyre is represented by the letter ‘Z’ and is rated above 240 kph / 149 mph. Other speed ratings can be found in the table below. The “R” denotes that the tyre is of radial type construction. The other type of tyre construction is ‘cross-ply’ and if the tyre and if this was the case, the ‘R’ would be replaced with a hyphen. 4. RIM SIZE The number ’17’ relates to the rim size, so in this instance, it’s 17 inches. 5. TYRE USE The ‘M/C’ simply means that the tyres intended use is on motorcycles. 6. LOAD AND SPEED INDEXES In this example, the number ’73’ informs us that the tyre has a maximum rating of 365 kg at maximum pressure. The the ‘W’ informs us that the tyre has a speed of 168 mph (270 kmh). The top speed is always related to the ‘slowest’ tyre on your motorcycle and if exceeded, risks tyre failure. Always replace a tyre with the same speed ratings so that you do not reduce the capability of your machine. See the chart tables below for all applicable load and speed ratings. 7. DIRECTION OF ROTATION The arrow denotes the direction of rotation. If the tyre is placed the wrong way round, your motorcycle will fail the MoT. 8. TYRE AGE Since the year 2000, the production date of any tyre can be found on a sidewall. We see the ‘DOT’ (Department of Transport) code and located at the end are four digits ‘0917’. The first two digits represent the week the tyre was manufactured and the last two digits represent the year. So in this example, the tyre was made in the 9th week of the year 2017. SPEED INDEX The speed index is a rating system denoted by letters located on a tyre sidewall. The speed rating of each tyre is the maximum speed in which a tyre can sustain under load, indicated by its load index and under specific conditions detailed by the manufacturer. If possible fit tyres to your motorcycle with identical speed ratings. Using a tyre with a lower speed rating can run the risk of invalidating your insurance policy. Edited July 7, 2020 by Nic 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will R Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Nic said: Nope... TYRE SIDEWALL MARKINGS AND NUMBERS Motorcycle tyre wall markings explained Let’s take a look at the tyre sidewall markings that are important. 1. TYRE WIDTH This number denotes the width of the tyre in millimeters from sidewall to sidewall. In this example, it’s 180 mm. The exact width may vary slightly due to manufacturing and tuning characteristics at +/- of 4%. 2. PROFILE HEIGHT This number is the tyre height and is calculated as a percentage of the tyre width. So in this example, the tyre profile height is 55% of the tyre width (180 mm), making it 99 mm. 3. SPEED RATING AND CONSTRUCTION The speed rating of the tyre is represented by the letter ‘Z’ and is rated above 240 kph / 149 mph. Other speed ratings can be found in the table below. The “R” denotes that the tyre is of radial type construction. The other type of tyre construction is ‘cross-ply’ and if the tyre and if this was the case, the ‘R’ would be replaced with a hyphen. 4. RIM SIZE The number ’17’ relates to the rim size, so in this instance, it’s 17 inches. 5. TYRE USE The ‘M/C’ simply means that the tyres intended use is on motorcycles. 6. LOAD AND SPEED INDEXES In this example, the number ’73’ informs us that the tyre has a maximum rating of 365 kg at maximum pressure. The the ‘W’ informs us that the tyre has a speed of 168 mph (270 kmh). The top speed is always related to the ‘slowest’ tyre on your motorcycle and if exceeded, risks tyre failure. Always replace a tyre with the same speed ratings so that you do not reduce the capability of your machine. See the chart tables below for all applicable load and speed ratings. 7. DIRECTION OF ROTATION The arrow denotes the direction of rotation. If the tyre is placed the wrong way round, your motorcycle will fail the MoT. 8. TYRE AGE Since the year 2000, the production date of any tyre can be found on a sidewall. We see the ‘DOT’ (Department of Transport) code and located at the end are four digits ‘0917’. The first two digits represent the week the tyre was manufactured and the last two digits represent the year. So in this example, the tyre was made in the 9th week of the year 2017. SPEED INDEX The speed index is a rating system denoted by letters located on a tyre sidewall. The speed rating of each tyre is the maximum speed in which a tyre can sustain under load, indicated by its load index and under specific conditions detailed by the manufacturer. If possible fit tyres to your motorcycle with identical speed ratings. Using a tyre with a lower speed rating can run the risk of invalidating your insurance policy. What a fantastic post 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 The first post here also has some good info on how they label tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrelwood Posted July 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) What I’m sure @Nic tried to point out is that a bicycle tire is labeled 18” x 3.0” and a motorcycle tire is labeled 2.75 - 14. Those tires are roughly the same size. The rim on an 18” EUC is 14” in diameter, and that’s what MC tires go by. Calling the MSX a 19” and especially the Sherman a 20” wheel is nothing but misleading, confusing and shortsighted. If the wheel fits an 18” tire, it’s an 18” wheel. Edited July 7, 2020 by mrelwood 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shield Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Nic said: Nope... A bit hard to read but here is a Sherman with a Kenda 2.75 - 14 tire. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Hnut Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 does anyone know what the voltage per cell is if the battery is at 0% kingsong is 3.0v@0% 4.2v@100% gotway is 3.3v@0% 4.11v@100% Veteran ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Doug Hnut said: kingsong is 3.0v@0% Just KS18XL, others are 3.15V@0%? Or vice versa - or depending on firmwares. So both values are/were used by KS. 2 minutes ago, Doug Hnut said: kingsong is ... 4.2v@100% Here also some 4.1xV for 100%. 3 minutes ago, Doug Hnut said: Veteran ?? Seems to be somewhere downto 3.0V, too: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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