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@MarkySorry, al even niet meer op het forum geweest. Veel minder tijd dan vroeger, lol. Ik zit inmiddels aan mijn tweede 16X. Allebei de 1555, om alle redenen die @Slashebeest ook al aanhaalde. We hebben overigens begin dit jaar onze auto verkocht, dus het wiel is voorlopig mijn enige vervoersmiddel.

Sure, but I never had it on my other 16X, so I find it worrying! The gap actually seems quite large. I can put my little finger in it.

Thank you for the suggestion! Yes, it would have been cheaper (in the meantime I got a new 16X)! But I'm worried it's just the first parts giving out and that I'd end up spending more on fixing the old one than I would on the new. Having said that, in hindsight I'm not entirely convinced I made the right choice, as the new wheel seems to be rubbing the tire if I ride one-footed from the start and the ride quality feels different (in a negative way). I'll probably swap the tire to see if that's the issue.

The Netherlands is one of the only countries I never take my wheel and it's a darn shame as the (bicycle) infrastructure would be great for it. My sister lives in Amsterdam, and I would love to travel up north and visit her and the rest of the family by wheel, but it's not worth the trouble. And as pointed out above. Amsterdam is the place where trouble is most likely if you ride a wheel.

True! We can drown our sorrows away ! Post-ride of course!

It's a good option indeed. However, I don't know why but I don't like the look of the V12, and it seems to struggle with teething issues, unless I'm confused with a different wheel.

I've wondered on some trails, mostly tree-root or rock-ridden ones, whether I would like suspension. But it seems like it's also a trade-off, added suspesnion means less room for battery and more maintenance. Perhaps I will change my mind in a couple of years if my knees get worse. Though I have to say that of all suspension wheels I would most lean towards the V11.

It's a tempting wheel. But I live in an appartment with wood everywhere and am a bit reluctant to get a Begode wheel because of the potential fire hazard. And I do ride in light rain. If it's for more than a few minutes I put a backpack cover on the wheel. But this is Belgium, it's impossible to never ride in the rain (even though we had the driest July in 180 years). Together with the south of England and Wales we have pretty much the least sunshine in the world. Though allegedly the Aleutians (and some say Bergen) have more rain.

Thank you! I would indeed put the 18XL as second on the list. I also agree on the costs of a car not just being the acquisition price, but then again they also have some benefits. Passenger and cargo space, and range, to mention some.

I'm looking to get a new wheel, but when I compare the current batch of wheels for sale, I'm more and more leaning towards buying just another 16X. I just don't seem to find another wheel that's an equally great all-rounder and suits my needs. Unless someone can convince me otherwise... What I'm looking for in a wheel: Usage: The wheel is my main (commuter) vehicle, I only switch to a car when there's heavy rain forecasted, need to transport heavy loads, or need to go someplace far. The trajectory I take by wheel involves very mixed terrain, ranging from concrete to single track dirt, and includes cobblestones, curbs and what not. I also occasionally go on half-day trips 40-70 km or full day trips with charging break at a restaurant (100-120 km). I usually gravitate towards mountain-bike trails for these, but sometimes it can also be mellow cruising on paved surfaces. Speed: In Belgium PEV's aren't allowed to go faster than 25 km/h. I usually ride around 35 km/h with tiltback at 40 km/h. Normally that means I could get fined but shouldn't lose my driving license. While I regularly hear 'please decelerate', I don't feel the need to go any faster and don't want to draw unwelcome attention to my riding or EUC's in Belgium in general. I also stick rigorously to all other traffic laws and always give priorities, never run red lights, stop for pedestrian crossings, etc.... Also I don't want to have to suit-up in full motorcycle gear. Torque: Never really had an issue with the 16x. But I do occasionally go up steeper terrain and overall I do think torque is more important to my riding style than speed. Range: Most of the time the range on my 16X is sufficient, but sometimes I really have to watch my riding style on longer trips, and sometimes I don't do a certain loop because I'm not sure I would make it. More range would obviously be welcome. Weight: I usually carry my wheel at least once or twice a day, including a flight of stairs at work. When the tire is wet or muddy I will carry it for a longer time at work, out of respect for the cleaning staff. While it's ok if it is a little bit heavier than the 16X I'm not looking for a 30kg+ wheel. Durability: I'm a heavy dude at 100 kg and I usually carry at least 10 kg of gear + backpack. I don't go looking for stunts and I try to ride in a way to minimize strain on the euc (by flexing knees, jumping up curbs, etc...) but I don't go out of the way of difficult terrain or jumps, so it doesn't have an easy life either and it will get dropped. My current wheel has over 10.000 km, but it seems like now either the axle or the pedal hangers are starting to giving out. Price: Obviously cheaper is better. If I have to fork over 1000 euro annually for a wheel, then the gap between the cost for a wheel and a car starts to diminish. I have a second-hand car that costs less than a Sherman and it' lasting a lot longer than 10.000 km. Suspension: I've never ridden a suspension wheel, so can't say much about it. On very rocky terrain or tracks with lots of tree roots it seems like it could be an advantage, but I'm worried I would be less in control on steep descents with lots of twists. Light: In winter my commute starts and ends in the dark, so a decent headlight and a visible taillight are a must. Handle: Lots of trolleying around, while shopping and at work if the tire is clean. A good handle is important. Seat: Unnecessary Tire: I'm not a fan of tramlining. I really enjoyed the original Chao Yang H-5167 on my 16X. I have two new ones at home, so even if it's no longer the stock-tire I could easily swap them out. I ride on all types of terrain and have never fallen because of the terrain, except once during a tight, fast-turn on micro-gravel. But that would have happened with any tire. Anyway, curious to see if anyone can convince me there's a better all-round wheel for me out there than the 16X.

The only time I hear a series of beeps is when I hear the overlean alarm because I accelerate too fast. It can also be triggered when just accelerating slightly if you go over a bump and have to catch your balance while your center if gravity is to the front of the wheel. Shouldn't happen while just cruising. On a side note, I would never set the tiltback on my 16X at 30 mph. Not enough safety margin. If you're a lightweight you can risk 25-28 mph. Personally I keep it at 25.

When I was fifteen I was roller blading with my dad an brother on the side of the street. I was lagging a bit behind and my dad and brother were in front. A car passes all of us, leaving mere inches. So my dad just moves his wrist slightly to hit the mirror with his wrist guard. The driver goes crazy and tries to run them over with his car. They jump over a decent sized curb and the guy just plows after them with the car at full speed, obviously damaging the car leaving some debris and a big oil stain behind. They jump over a small wall and disappear while the guy gets out of his car. Big, beefy in camo pants and runs toward me, and blocks my path. I have a ditch on one side and a brick wall on the other. I feigned trying to pass him on one side and then dashed to other side. He didn't manage to tackle me but gave me a karate kick on my thigh as I passed, which was bruised for a few weeks. This, and other instances of road rage that I have witnessed, even if I was not involved, usually stop me from demoing mirrors or rapping on roofs or windows, or even flipping the bird... Not out of fear, as I probably could take on the majority of people now, but why would I want to put myself in a situation where I might have to end up damaging someone or getting damaged myself.

Saw this thread in the 'activity report' and while I'm not living in the UK I thought I might share some insights on what the situation is in Belgium. Especially since I saw the question being raised. 'Will I still be covered if what I am doing is illegal' In Belgium we are allowed to drive EUC's up to 25 km/h. Additionally, standard 'Family Insurance' suffices for this, if the max speed of the EUC is 25 km/h. However, several insurance companies also offer insurance for PEV's up to 45 km/h, which is bundled into the same insurance the as speed pedelecs (for which you need a license plate in Belgium). And EUC's are specifically mentioned in the policies. So we are required have to have insurance for EUC's that can go faster than 25 km/h, which is illegal. How does this work in practice? So far it seems that people who damage their EUC's or themselves have been paid by the insurance companies without too much hassle. However in the few instances a third party was involved and would have been required to pay, the lawyers of the third party were quick to point out that the device was illegal and therefore their insurance refused to pay up, unless the owner could prove that the device could go no faster than 25 km/h (free-spin...). Anyway, sorry for the intrusion. But hope this helps.

@MarkyDag Marc, Wat mij betreft zeker en vast. In mijn ogen is de 16X het beste all-round wiel, maar het nadeel is dan ook: 'jack of all trades, master of none'. Als je naar iets specifiek op zoek bent zoals snelheid, bereik, off-road capaciteit, vering of comfort , etc... ga je voor elk onderdeel wel een beter wiel vinden, maar als je er eentje wil die alles een beetje kan is de 16X heel goed. Ik heb net de 10.000 km gehaald en ben nog steeds tevreden hoewel het stilletjesaan begint te verslijten. Je moet wel in mijn ogen opletten voor twee dingen. Het wiel wordt aangeprezen als ok voor 50 km/h, maar om veilig te zijn blijf je best maximaal tussen de 40-45 km/h. Hoewel ik zelf ook af en toe een bmx-parcour doe of over boomwortels of rotsen spring is het wiel hiervoor niet gemaakt en heeft het ook geen vering, dus de as kan het begeven als je dit te vaak doet. As for bescherming. Voor mij altijd polsbeschermers, helm en kniebeschermers. Duurt 15 seconden om aan te doen en 7 seconden om uit te doen. Fris genoeg, zeker als je wat sneller gaat. In de winter doe ik soms ook een moto-sweater aan met ingebouwde elleboog-rug-en schouderbescherming.

Hi @Paul gSorry, never tried the H-666!