Popular Post Thai-lad Posted December 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) Just in case you wanted to know what the real cost of li-ion batteries are... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/latest-bull-case-for-electric-cars-the-cheapest-batteries-ever and this video has a pretty good description of what goes into a Tesla (car) battery pack Edited December 5, 2018 by Thai-lad 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gon2fast Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Random, but based on the height of the wheel I would be interested if they can integrate a seating option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, gon2fast said: Random, but based on the height of the wheel I would be interested if they can integrate a seating option. Ideally, in a different build quality and construction world, the folded up handle would be the perfect place for sitting down. Put some cushion on top of it, and you have a high, automatically feathered seating arrangement with the handle folded up. Fold-up seat and handle, two in one. Like here. All the guy needs to do is sit down. Build it very stable and more egonomic, and done. A KS-style handle could be modified into a working seat even easier. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StyleTang Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 if this production is hot then Inmotion will build V??? with 18 inch wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gon2fast Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 InMotion has to focus on battery functionality, but good thing we are talking GWs new tech... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonewolfSWE Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Ohh man, what an ugly wheel. I waited hoping for something good for the coming spring. Hoping for a successor to the ACM. I think the msx looks weird when ridden. Like the rider has to overlean with a big black brick behind them. The ACM had a really good looking shell. Marty described it as a hummer if I remember it correctly. I dont need speakers, fancy lights. I need a smaller shell but with enough space to hold big batteries. ACM2 or wait for a newer option... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Paolini Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Do we know the planned release date? I'm quite curious about this unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutalo Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 On 12/8/2018 at 10:00 PM, LonewolfSWE said: I dont need speakers, fancy lights. I don't need them either, but I have them both on my 18L and they are super cool once you have them. GW is doing the right thing by joining the party and adding them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutalo Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 11:06 PM, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: As long as it isn’t called the Gotway Geekwheel it probably will be fine. Hey! I like that name. Go, Hunka Genius the Accidental Burn. My bad. I meant Hunka Burn the Accidental Genius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutalo Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 On 12/5/2018 at 6:00 AM, Thai-lad said: Just in case you wanted to know what the real cost of li-ion batteries are... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/latest-bull-case-for-electric-cars-the-cheapest-batteries-ever and this video has a pretty good description of what goes into a Tesla (car) battery pack I would like to see some competitively priced aftermarket lithium ion choices. That would certainly impact the inflated prices of wheels. 2 large for what is basically one motorized wheel hub, a control board, and a battery pack is a lot to ask. Cheaper battery packs would drive prices into a more reasonable range while improving the equipment. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I read somewhere that the popular Xiaomi M365 electric scooter costs around $125 from factory for large orders, but it sells for around $500, so that is a 400% mark-up. This sounds like a lot, but when you have distrubutors and dealers adding their mark-up (~100% each) it doesn't stretch that far as they have to provide a support network and other services to customers. I suspect this is why the manufacturers don't like customers buying from non-authorised sellers because these sellers are happy to sell at discount and don't support the products they sell, dumping all responsibility and cost back on the manufacturer. A more efficient supply chain, which comes with scale, is what is needed to bring prices down. I'm sure there is scope for lowering prices if sales increase and margins reduced, which will happen as these devices are legalised and promoted around the world. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Lutalo said: I don't need them either, but I have them both on my 18L and they are super cool once you have them. GW is doing the right thing by joining the party and adding them. It is not maybe for everyone however as you say, they have their moments. Still makes me laugh thinking how people look up and around as I can gliding past on my KS18L with Google maps reading out turn by turn directions at full volume since I can't fit earplugs in my TSG Pass fullface helmet. People came to a stop at the roundabouts as they now knew what exit I would choose. At now in the dark times it help a lot to have lights on the sides when crossing a road or intersection. So short story, I didn't fund speakers or lights that important but it works great at times. So I agree with you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peteshmete Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Whyyyyy? Is ...it ....so.....FREAKIN’ .....HUGE!!!.?? I love my gt16 because its compact and 16 and fast...even my Tesla was a bit on the bulky side for me. 16-17(fat tire) is perfect size wheel for me but this monstrosity is much bigger than the msx?!?!. 🧠 💥 i like that they used the msx board and wheel and the handle(as long as there is one i m fine ) and speakers are maybe a gr8 thing(if they have good bass and/or overall sound) and the killswitch button i like a lot.....but please shave off 2inches in depth and 2-4inches in height ...with is passable. heh! Just listening to myself there i sound like a spoiled , prissy little 1st world problem kid🤪 BUT COME ON....HEHEHE 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peteshmete Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Ps..can someone give an old man a clue on how to put the icons of wheels i have had and tried without looking like such HUGE PHOTOS(hmmm! They represent the nikola.....😂🤣😅) thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 @Peteshmete Use smaller photos? Resize them all, and maybe just combine them all into one image. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Demargon Posted December 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) You can use these I made for the community if you like it: Edited December 13, 2018 by Demargon 8 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Demargon said: You can use these I made for the community if you like it: Fantastic . How did you create these if you don't mind me asking? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meng Yang Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 For me, 17 inch wheel seems like the perfect all-arounder for a crowded place like mine with narrow sidewalks (& no roads coz illegal to ride on roads). With the type of cracks and undulations of our walkways, 14 inch is scary at speeds, but 16 is still harsh while 18 would be combersome for a lightweight (59 kg) like me. I'm hoping Nikola or future wheels comes UL-2272 (battery safety) certified coz by next year, it'd be illegal to sell anything non-certified (coz quite a few houses caught fire from mobility devices already). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, Demargon said: You can use these I made for the community if you like it: We need on that is on fire too...At the KS18XL 🤩 is that hot...and one frozen too due the upcoming cool(mint) from Gotway 😏 Ohh I almost forgot the most important part: Wheeltastic job 👍👌 Edited December 14, 2018 by Unventor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonewolfSWE Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 On 12/11/2018 at 4:00 PM, Lutalo said: I don't need them either, but I have them both on my 18L and they are super cool once you have them. GW is doing the right thing by joining the party and adding them. I had ring lightning on my old IPS zero. I turned it off. 😩 Hoping to see more new wheels this spring that looks more like mcm and acm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutalo Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, LonewolfSWE said: I had ring lightning on my old IPS zero. I turned it off. 😩 Hoping to see more new wheels this spring that looks more like mcm and acm. Although I am personally not partial to its "eggshell" form, overall I think the MCM is an okay wheel; I don't want it, but I can't knock it. On the other hand, I guess it's a personal preference because I find the ACM to be "Asscrack" ugly; "Arsecrack" ugly if you from Europe. Edited December 15, 2018 by Lutalo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post houseofjob Posted December 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) Courtesy of our fellow Russian ridership on Telegram: Edited December 18, 2018 by houseofjob 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post houseofjob Posted December 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2018 https://ecodrift.ru/2018/12/18/gotway_nicola_pervaya_vstrecha/ Gotway Nicola first meeting in the cold snowy Moscow Today, the new Gotway Nicola arrived at our warehouse. From a technical point of view - this is the same Tesla, but under a large battery and with a wide tire 3 ″ wide. Tomorrow we will show a more detailed photo report, but for now just roll Nicola in the evening Moscow snow. A bit of a strange color with white inserts and translucent overlays through which you can see the inner contents of the wheel. ... .. Instead of the rear side light - GW logo. During movement the tape is poured in various colors. Headlamp - standard, like all Gotway last year and a half. The road is visible, but not far away. Snowing. On the case, Nicola shows the current voltage. Inside a lot of empty space. In our case, version 1600Wh. Although in fact it is 1554Wh if you count 3.7V for the rated voltage. Pay attention to the angle of the pedals: The blue LEDs are lit on the controller: A pen: The controversial decision and lowish in height: The rubber covers the access to the screw that holds the cover: According to the plan tomorrow, we will shoot the wheel in more detail and disassemble Nicola. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, houseofjob said: https://ecodrift.ru/2018/12/18/gotway_nicola_pervaya_vstrecha/ Gotway Nicola first meeting in the cold snowy Moscow Today, the new Gotway Nicola arrived at our warehouse. From a technical point of view - this is the same Tesla, but under a large battery and with a wide tire 3 ″ wide. Tomorrow we will show a more detailed photo report, but for now just roll Nicola in the evening Moscow snow. A bit of a strange color with white inserts and translucent overlays through which you can see the inner contents of the wheel. ... .. Instead of the rear side light - GW logo. During movement the tape is poured in various colors. Headlamp - standard, like all Gotway last year and a half. The road is visible, but not far away. Snowing. On the case, Nicola shows the current voltage. Inside a lot of empty space. In our case, version 1600Wh. Although in fact it is 1554Wh if you count 3.7V for the rated voltage. Pay attention to the angle of the pedals: The blue LEDs are lit on the controller: A pen: The controversial decision and lowish in height: The rubber covers the access to the screw that holds the cover: According to the plan tomorrow, we will shoot the wheel in more detail and disassemble Nicola. I must say, these pictures make the wheel look very appealing. Although the author says it's basically a Tesla, I know people who would have loved to put a 3-inch tire on the Tesla. So a 3-inch tire and 1600wh battery is a big deal for Tesla fans. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) It's too bad these EUC's aren't swap and play. I'd totally swap out my control board, motor, and battery packs to fit into that shell if it was easy to get working! They probably have some custom LED driver on the board though so that would be a no go. I mean, instead of buying the whole wheel all the time, it would be neat just to change out the shell in a modular fashion. Feel like ACM style some days while Nikola the rest? Just swap pants! And parts! Edited December 19, 2018 by Hunka Hunka Burning Love 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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