New GotWay Nikola 17''

[EcoDrift]

17 inches
650 wh / 84 V / NCR18650 PF
1300 wh / 84 V / NCR18650 PF
1600 wh / 84 V / NCR18650 GA

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Edited December 1, 2018 by EcoDrift
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[fbhb]

Looks like @Marty Backe will have to break his "NO MORE NEW WHEELS FOR ME" promise

Edited November 29, 2018 by fbhb

[houseofjob]

@EcoDrift nice! Any word on speed?

[EcoDrift]

2 minutes ago, houseofjob said:

@EcoDrift nice! Any word on speed?

Like MSuper X

[houseofjob]

Just now, EcoDrift said:

Like MSuper X

Thanks! (nice English language video BTW )

 

Also, any word on a new Monster-like model? Maybe now 23" 

[EcoDrift]

1 minute ago, houseofjob said:

nice English language video BTW

Im from Russia, where vodka, bears and good english everywhere 

[houseofjob]

1 minute ago, EcoDrift said:

Im from Russia, where vodka, bears and good english everywhere 

Yes, but now including videos! Most of your channel, I had to guess!

[RockyTop]

Wow! OK.........Well?....... I would have never guessed it. This is going to take some time to process.  Yeah! ....  I am not sure how I feel about the new wheel.    I would have named it the AMC.    All makes combined.   Hope it does well!  I don’t think the wide lift handle is going to go over to well.  The music speakers are a nice addition and my wife would love the lights.

Thanks EcoDrift, great video !!

Edited November 29, 2018 by RockyTop

[Mrd777]

Circus show, certainly doesn't look like an efficient, modern machine.

[houseofjob]

22 minutes ago, Mrd777 said:

Circus show, certainly doesn't look like an efficient, modern machine.

This is why you will get one 

[meepmeepmayer]

HEEEEEEEEYA!!!!!!!!!!! Gotway "16" incher with 1600Wh battery!!!!! ACM redeemed!!!!! Paging @Marty Backe, paging @Marty Backe 🥳

Though it is a bit flashy... how about a more robust offroader, Gotway? But the ring lights are cool and seem to indicate (in combination with the nicely flush handle) some kind of actual design planning by Gotway!

Also, an LCD screen!

I wonder why it is so big? Bigger than MSX? Wish they would put more than 1600Wh in such a big shell, it's certainly possible. And why is the price so high? More than the MSX?

3 hours ago, RockyTop said:

I would have named it the AMC.    All makes combined.

Haha, they were definitely "inspired" by Inmotions and the 18L. But that's a good thing. And they actually did the handle better than IM (flush, can't be damaged in a fall) and the circular sides better than KS (uninterrupted lights and shape all around).

4 hours ago, houseofjob said:

Also, any word on a new Monster-like model? Maybe now 23" 

Pretty sure that's a given now, fatter tire on the old rim is where they seem to go now. I wonder if they will bring out a 15 inch MCM6... that would be a great mountain machine!

[houseofjob]

22 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said:

Pretty sure that's a given now, fatter tire on the old rim is where they seem to go now. I wonder if they will bring out a 15 inch MCM6... that would be a great mountain machine!

[RockyTop]

17” is a strange number. As many know they go by the outer diameter rather than the wheel size. For example the 22” monster has a 17” rim. I have measured actual tire diameters before and found that some are exaggerated and others are under stated. The MS3 tire is closer to 19” than 18”. I am wondering if this 17” is just a big fat 16”. Like the MSX is just a big fat 18”. In this case this is the long range 16” ( with a more comfy tire.)

Edited November 29, 2018 by RockyTop
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[meepmeepmayer]

@RockyTop This is definitely the "standard 16 inch" rim (no matter what size it actually is) like on the ACM or Tesla, just with a bigger, bloated tire. You can literally see that.

So exactly like they did on the MSX, just a size smaller.

I guess that makes the tire width 2.5 inches (a bloated 2.125).

[RockyTop]

I just ordered mine.  It is in the mail!! ......WAIT ! ...... I think I just ordered 17 restaurant pager light up coaster things that they give you when you are waiting for you table.....   $&#%!  I hate returning things.  Serves me right for drinking so early in the day! 

[Flying W]

I'm trying to make it 9 months before getting a new wheel as that's the rough break even point by commuting. It looks like there will be some tough choices by then if the other manufacturers also bring out new 16in class wheels.  

This one is such a blend, it's a Ninemotionkingway. I hope all the next gen 16s get 1600wh options.

[Afeez Kay]

Retractable handle and a thinner handle to lift would have made this the perfect wheel. Still going to get it 

[meepmeepmayer]

Who can resist flashy pink lights? I can't. Flamboyantly cool in its translucent plasticness

Great to see they apparently put in a semi-serious (very bright = actually usable in traffic) front light, finally. Hoping the back light is as bright as well.

[Rehab1]

Nikola is Tesla’s first name which has an urban dictionary meaning of ‘victor of people’. Researching further I found another meaning:  ‘Conglomeration of other manufacturer’s ideas.’

[RockyTop]

5 minutes ago, Rehab1 said:

 Researching further I found another meaning:  ‘Conglomeration of other manufacturer’s ideas.’

Ha! Ha! ....Yep!.... I found the same definition in the American Motors 1980’s play book....... I hope it works better for GotWay! 

[Electroman]

So just me disappointing then?

To me that just looks like a ugly byproduct of after a wild night out, accident between King Song and Inmotion, maybe even a Ninebot who knows but sure looks nothing like a Gotway and 17" higher than a MSX?

I am not anti progress, please go for it, heck even experiment if that is needed and and all for a 17" wheels, that sounds like a sweet spot of sort to me even though I now left the 16" for the 18" one and feel it's a better sweet spot after adjusting fully, besides I like speed and with same motor, battery and hardware controlling it 17" will be slightly slower than 18" (or 19) that's just physics is it not? Although faster acceleration from 0 instead which is not bad, just different. Another good thing to me that I still like about the ACM is in crappy weather, no need to constantly have the flap in the backpack and honestly a permanent solution just seams better after constant on, off, on, off..... with that flap that still cannot protect me cause I use a lot of aggressive angles and always forget to to try top stay upright and still riding on wet surface.

I really have no need for the discotheque lights either so yeah I am so boring I even feel speakers just dead weight but least those I could use for something, barbecue a'la EUC style at the beach? Something about passing 40 and dancing purples led's just feel so wrong on so many levels to me, what can I say. However proper red light aimed backwards and change intensity when braking, a solid headlight and genuine safety in traffic even after dark is worth a lot to me, so that others do not have to guess if looking at some UFO, a kids toy or some weird electric vehicle, I want my intentions clear and visible to others that mean a lot.

Personally I hope Gotway lead their own race, scrap what others are doing do your own thing, more power, more batteries that even none speed freaks can enjoy in the form of distance and and more safety buffer, the essentials, a new shell design is kind of needed though but to me it's even more important to utilize every single inch of space and take down size of the shell as far as possible, lift quality step by step and make shells even tougher and able to withstand violence.

We will see, I am looking forward to next gen motors, power control, possibly even more batteries, thicker axles to take out lower gauge wire etc, the more headroom the better. Beef up everything electrical, mechanical and keep looking for the holy grail in terms of redundancy and a lot can be forgiven in terms of the shell though. We will se.

Edited November 29, 2018 by Electroman

[meepmeepmayer]

23 minutes ago, Electroman said:

To me that just looks like a ugly byproduct of after a wild night out, accident between King Song and Inmotion, maybe even a Ninebot who knows but sure looks nothing like a Gotway and 17" higher than a MSX?

This is a hilariously accurate description how the wheel looks Wouldn't call it ugly, though. It's China-cool.

I completely agree that it is too big. The ACM or Z10 show that a wheel does not have to be big. From the pictures, it appears the batteries are only in a central column (like the KS) and there's so much wasted space on the sides and on top. I guess they just copied how KS wheels are built.

And it doesn't look too robust.

The side lights are nice, though. A continuously moving light ring is about the best sideways visibility a EUC can have.

The shell looks about the same as the ACM in terms of mud protection, I don't think you will get yourself dirty without an extra mudguard.

It will be a powerful wheel, essentially like the Tesla but with bigger batteries, best board available, and a more robust tire.

Edited November 29, 2018 by meepmeepmayer

[Rehab1]

43 minutes ago, Electroman said:

Personally I hope Gotway lead their own race, 

I agree. IMO Gotway’s Mten 3 and MCM5 opened new frontiers and were examples of leading the race. 

I’m not sure what goes into corporate EUC decision making but Gotway might consider following our member’s feedback a bit closer as I don’t recall the scorpion handle and disco lights getting high reviews on this forum. 

I really like the digital LED voltage readout. I don’t like the extra thick calf pads. My inner shins are already aching just looking at them. 

Edited November 29, 2018 by Rehab1

[Glitched]

This seems to me more like their next Tesla, but like 1.5 instead of 2.0. Looks like a 2.5" tire? Not a fan of the white matte 'core' against the glossy black everything else. Maybe the final silver pedal color will offset that strange contrast.  To me this looks identical to my v10f, just a bit wider and with Gotway's layout of inputs/outputs on the front.  All it's missing are multiple LED rings like on the v10, but I prefer the way these animate over the v10's. I'm guessing this will be easier to ride too with the battery packs not positioned high up like in inmotion's. 

Edited November 29, 2018 by Glitched

[Electroman]

53 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said:

This is a hilariously accurate description how the wheel looks Wouldn't call it ugly, though. It's China-cool.

I completely agree that it is too big. The ACM or Z10 show that a wheel does not have to be big. From the pictures, it appears the batteries are only in a central column (like the KS) and there's so much wasted space on the sides and on top. I guess they just copied how KS wheels are built.

And it doesn't look too robust.

The side lights are nice, though. A continuously moving light ring is about the best sideways visibility a EUC can have.

The shell looks about the same as the ACM in terms of mud protection, I don't think you will get yourself dirty without an extra mudguard.

It will be a powerful wheel, essentially like the Tesla but with bigger batteries, best board available, and a more robust tire.

Good spot, did not even get there myself, hope not too much space is waited but it does look very high.

A modernized ACM a'la 17" could be nice imoh, I know the ACM is old now but to me that was a particularly good casing, even the old 820Wh I have have room for more batteries but perhaps nor feasible or at least potentially too expensive from a manufacturing perspective spreading out battery cells like that?

Ok then, China cool it is!   Sometimes my mouth on autopilot and no filters..

30 minutes ago, Rehab1 said:

I agree. IMO Gotway’s Mten 3 and MCM5 opened new frontiers and were examples of leading the race. 

I’m not sure what goes into corporate EUC decision making but Gotway might consider following our member’s feedback a bit closer as I don’t recall the scorpion handle and disco lights getting high reviews on this forum. 

I really like the digital LED voltage readout. I don’t like the extra thick calf pads. My inner shins are already aching just looking at them. 

Agree on all point Dan, forgot about the voltage but yes could be great additional source of information. Yes Mten and MCM5 were some great steps forward imo as well.