New Inmotion V10 / V10F

[em1barns]

3 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

The Missing Inmotion App

This is not to pick on Inmotion specifically (it's not limited to them), but I'm really happy that Gotway maintains their simple wheel configuration. I can use the same App that was released 2-years ago to configure their newest wheels. I hope they never release a wheel that requires a wiz-bang app to configure the lights, modes, etc.

I would be very frustrated to buy a new wheel and have to wait for a non-existent App to configure the wheel.

Unfortunately, this comes at a price of no Bluetooth security, no user-upgradable firmware, and no ability to read current settings from wheel (tiltback, beeps settings, etc...).

[UniVehje]

Today I did another 35 km ride, mostly on trails and off-road. Holy duck it feels AMAZING!

Now that I’ve got a bit more used to it and got a bit stronger, I feel like I can throw anything at it and the wheel just keeps going. I’m also more nimble now, it just required some practice. 

Can’t wait to find out what it feels with full speed unlock and after adjusting the ride feel. 

Edited May 9, 2018 by UniVehje

[Marty Backe]

11 minutes ago, em1barns said:

Unfortunately, this comes at a price of no Bluetooth security, no user-upgradable firmware, and no ability to read current settings from wheel (tiltback, beeps settings, etc...).

I'm curious, what worries you about lack of Bluetooth security? .00001% of the population even knows what an EUC is. Are you worried about someone reconfiguring your wheel without your knowledge, however that could possibly happen?

I can see the value in your other points, but the lack of these features has not prevented me from enjoying my wheels and I haven't had to install a new App for a couple of years.

Please Gotway, don't change.

[FreeRide]

V10 Disassembly video by Green Fashion.

 

[FreeRide]

 

[novazeus]

2 hours ago, UniVehje said:

Today I did another 35 km ride, mostly on trails and off-road. Holy duck it feels AMAZING!

Now that I’ve got a bit more used to it and got a bit stronger, I feel like I can throw anything at it and the wheel just keeps going. I’m also more nimble now, it just required some practice. 

Can’t wait to find out what it feels with full speed unlock and after adjusting the ride feel. 

ok just did my first little rides. not sure how i did it but i installed the app i think by scanning the thing in the book. it will let me move the slider up to 40kph after signing my life away in the disclaimer and then reverts back to 7 kph.

so, no i don’t think the app is ready. the speed gauge is wrong. it’s not ready period. i think it’s tilting back at 25kph, no way to tell in the app.

as far as riding goes, i thought these van’s would be perfect but not so much. i’m thinking the tactical boots might be better. felt like my left heel, for some reason, was sliding off. 

so @Bobwheel or @Jeffrey Scott Will if ur out there, need a little help. how were the demos unlocked?

it’s early but i’m not in love yet. i need some set up tips i guess. i don’t understand some of the terminology in the app.

like pretty sure to my gate and back a couple of times isn’t this far.

 

[Rehab1]

Here’s mine. Well sort of. Since I can’t officially ride my V10F (or Tesla) yet the pedal mods are underway which will be completed tomorrow. The V10F’s silicone based pedals grips are tough as nails. It took 30 minutes just to grind off the  traction ridges so I can install my industrial grip tape. The pedals will also have silicone protective covers installed. 

 

Edited May 10, 2018 by Rehab1

[novazeus]

3 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

The Missing Inmotion App

This is not to pick on Inmotion specifically (it's not limited to them), but I'm really happy that Gotway maintains their simple wheel configuration. I can use the same App that was released 2-years ago to configure their newest wheels. I hope they never release a wheel that requires a wiz-bang app to configure the lights, modes, etc.

I would be very frustrated to buy a new wheel and have to wait for a non-existent App to configure the wheel.

yeah, i guess i’m old and use to adapting to what ever the manufacturer gave u. we didn’t have tilt wheel or 12 way adjustable seats etc etc etc. i had my truck almost 3 years and probably only used half of gm’s crap. got frustrated with it after 5 times to the dealership to fix their fancy electronics, just traded it in on the touareg. 

ah the good old days of just the on/off button. i uninstalled whatever inmotions app was and i’m gonna wait until they have something working and i’m gonna need a video tutorial for someof these settings that idk what they are talking about. 

@Jeffrey Scott Will and @Bobwheel all i wanna do is have mph if possible, the hardest pedal setting, the pedals level when in neutral, and idk what that turning thing is all about?

and i can’t play music i guess without the app?

Edited May 10, 2018 by novazeus

[eddiemoy]

2 hours ago, FreeRide said:

V10 Disassembly video by Green Fashion.

 

@Bobwheel, where is the active cooling???

[novazeus]

the headlight is definitely better than the kingsong headlight.

idk why my videos are such downgraded quality. must be some data saving thing on my new phone.

 

[Marty Backe]

53 minutes ago, eddiemoy said:

@Bobwheel, where is the active cooling???

It's called "Marketing" 

[novazeus]

1 hour ago, Rehab1 said:

Here’s mine. Well sort of. Since I can’t officially ride my V10F (or Tesla) yet the pedal mods are underway which will be completed tomorrow. The V10F’s silicone based pedals grips are tough as nails. It took 30 minutes just to grind off the  traction ridges so I can install my industrial grip tape. The pedals will also have silicone protective covers installed. 

 

not bashing but i think u will definitely like the grip tape better. i’m gonna try and adapt to these totally new pedals before i go custom. my subsequent rides with the same sneakers seem to improve. silicone does kinda have a film that might need to wear in to get its full adhesion(i think it’s the mold release stuff). i can definitely slide my feet on the pedals better.

the pedals are so big, i’m not sure where to put my feet, front to back. gonna take some fooling around to dial this wheel in. feels like a short version of my ks18s slow turning wise. i think this wheel would be a perfect fit for somebody 5’8”. i’m 6’0”. the upper pad contacts my inside calf muscle where ur calf muscle is the biggest on the inside of ur leg. if i was shorter it would be in the little valley between ur calf muscle and knee. not bitching, just a different feel.

[Jpd]

1 hour ago, novazeus said:

yeah, i guess i’m old and use to adapting to what ever the manufacturer gave u. we didn’t have tilt wheel or 12 way adjustable seats etc etc etc. i had my truck almost 3 years and probably only used half of gm’s crap. got frustrated with it after 5 times to the dealership to fix their fancy electronics, just traded it in on the touareg. 

ah the good old days of just the on/off button. i uninstalled whatever inmotions app was and i’m gonna wait until they have something working and i’m gonna need a video tutorial for someof these settings that idk what they are talking about. 

@Jeffrey Scott Will and @Bobwheel all i wanna do is have mph if possible, the hardest pedal setting, the pedals level when in neutral, and idk what that turning thing is all about?

and i can’t play music i guess without the app?

To play music just go to Bluetooth, and it will say unicycle audio. You will have to connect separately to play music. DarknessBot  has been working fine for me (if you have iPhone) for the mph.

[Jeffrey Scott Will]

@novazeus @Marty Backe Update on the App situation: Support for V10 is coming as an update to the same app along with the new live data / efficiency readings. It's due for rollout tomorrow (thursday May 10), but we recognize that some of you were going to receive your V10F before the update hit so we emailed all of our customers and gave them early access to the android version. 

If you didn't order from us, then you haven't heard from me because I don't have your email, but I can get you the app if you private message me here. 

[novazeus]

1 minute ago, Jpd said:

To play music just go to Bluetooth, and it will say unicycle audio. You will have to connect separately to play music. DarknessBot  has been working fine for me (if you have iPhone) for the mph.

i have android and i didn’t see “unicycle audio” . i’ll try again in a few minutes. i get the v10f in bluetooth but it says v10 needs permission to hook up.

[novazeus]

6 minutes ago, Jeffrey Scott Will said:

@novazeus @Marty Backe Update on the App situation: Support for V10 is coming as an update to the same app along with the new live data / efficiency readings. It's due for rollout tomorrow (thursday May 10), but we recognize that some of you were going to receive your V10F before the update hit so we emailed all of our customers and gave them early access to the android version. 

If you didn't order from us, then you haven't heard from me because I don't have your email, but I can get you the app if you private message me here. 

alrighty then. i get a zillion emails a day so i didn’t see it. i’m gonna give it a try.

[soulson]

1 hour ago, eddiemoy said:

@Bobwheel, where is the active cooling???

Don't let the lack of a fan scare you away.

In fact, the presence of a non-redundant fan would scare me. Fans are a component that can fail, and when fans fail, the failure often cascades. If a product doesn't have any fans, then the engineers who designed it found another way to dissipate waste heat – and whatever they used is probably more reliable than a fan.

[novazeus]

1 hour ago, Jeffrey Scott Will said:

@novazeus @Marty Backe Update on the App situation: Support for V10 is coming as an update to the same app along with the new live data / efficiency readings. It's due for rollout tomorrow (thursday May 10), but we recognize that some of you were going to receive your V10F before the update hit so we emailed all of our customers and gave them early access to the android version. 

If you didn't order from us, then you haven't heard from me because I don't have your email, but I can get you the app if you private message me here. 

okay! @Jeffrey Scott Will my man, after all my problems with kingsong, i wasn’t ready for a half english/chinese non working app. good job! nice looking app. might be the best i’ve ever seen.gonna have to play with it tmrw some more.

this 16” wheel isn’t even in the same league as a ks16s. makes kingsong look primitive.

[Marty Backe]

3 minutes ago, novazeus said:

okay! @Jeffrey Scott Will my man, after all my problems with kingsong, i wasn’t ready for a half english/chinese non working app. good job! nice looking app. might be the best i’ve ever seen.gonna have to play with it tmrw some more.

this 16” wheel isn’t even in the same league as a ks16s. makes kingsong look primitive.

The KS16S is a pretty nice wheel. How exactly is it primitive next to the V10F?

I do think the V10F is a nicer wheel (except for the trolley handle) but I don't see the differences so stark as to call the KS16S primitive.

Do tell 

[novazeus]

32 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

The KS16S is a pretty nice wheel. How exactly is it primitive next to the V10F?

I do think the V10F is a nicer wheel (except for the trolley handle) but I don't see the differences so stark as to call the KS16S primitive.

Do tell 

i did this in another thread too. 

for starters:

1. better tire

2. the app works

3. 2000 watt motor vs 1200 watt

4. the app works

5. handle switch disconnect

6. better speakers

7. thinner

8. higher pedals

9. bigger pedals

10. better lighting

11. better headlight

12. the app works

14. built in kick stand

15. better support from inmotion

16. better packaging

17. faster 40 kph vs 35kph

18. quieter at neutral

19. 960 wh 84 volt battery vs 840 wh 67 volt battery

20. easily replaceable or removable trolley handle, no non locking in the case stuff.

21. pads are softer and ergonomics just better for me.

the app looks fantastic, u especially would love it because u like to monitor all this stuff when ur torturing ur wheels.

it just makes the kingsong ks16s all around from packaging forward, look primitive. compared to the v10f like @US69always says, they are a mom and pop operation like out of a garage. sub contract out their stuff to cheap vendors. that’s why a year later, still have problems with their software. did i mention, mine is no more than a boat anchor now. 

at jason’s present pricing, i’d definitely pick the v10 over the ks16s if i only had $1299 to spend. and if u pre ordered u coulda got the v10f for only $140 more. 

plus inmotion’s reputation is worth tons as dangerous as these things are, that’s not a factor with u hotway boys though.

no comparison.

Edited May 10, 2018 by novazeus

[novazeus]

 

[Marty Backe]

10 minutes ago, novazeus said:

i did this in another thread too. 

for starters:

1. better tire it's wider, but is it better?

2. the app works

3. 2000 watt motor vs 1200 watt

4. the app works

5. handle switch disconnect

6. better speakers

7. thinner

8. higher pedals but much slippier

9. bigger pedals but much slippier

10. better lighting

11. better headlight

12. the app works

14. built in kick stand unless there's any wind

15. better support from inmotion

16. better packaging important for the first 5-minutes

17. faster 40 kph vs 35kph

18. quieter at neutral who rides the wheel when it's standing still?

19. 960 wh 84 volt battery vs 840 wh 67 volt battery

20. easily replaceable or removable trolley handle, no non locking in the case stuff. 

21. pads are softer and ergonomics just better for me.

Well done. I see that you like the working app 

Just don't depend on that "built-in" kickstand if there's any wind. I think you're really reaching with that trolley handle wording. I really can't see how anyone (except you I guess) would think that the V10F trolley handle is better than the KingSong version.

Otherwise, KingSong should be worried, although their offering will be more appealing to the cost conscious buyer.

[novazeus]

kingsongs packaging:

inmotion’s packaging:

 

[Hunka Hunka Burning Love]

 Sweet sound system!   I wish my Tesla had speakers like those.  Nice!  The lights look pretty awesome too.

Edited May 10, 2018 by Hunka Hunka Burning Love

[novazeus]

27 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

Well done. I see that you like the working app 

Just don't depend on that "built-in" kickstand if there's any wind. I think you're really reaching with that trolley handle wording. I really can't see how anyone (except you I guess) would think that the V10F trolley handle is better than the KingSong version.

Otherwise, KingSong should be worried, although their offering will be more appealing to the cost conscious buyer.

 

i don’t use a trolley handle but if i did, i think inmotion’s is adequate and i like that i can remove it. i’ve never had a problem with ks trolley handle because i don’t use it, but others have had problems with it not locking in the case.

yeah i think it’s a better tire. higher load capacity. 75kg vs 70kg. it just looks and feels meatier. definitely different from ks little tire. 

the pedals being higher has nothing to do with them being slippery and i think that will improve as they break in. the gas they use for the mold release makes them slippery when new. u can always send ur pedals to @Rehab1 before he’s completely healed up. u can’t make ks pedals higher or bigger.

i think the kickstand is for indoor use only.

the quiteness of the wheel at idle just denotes a quality build. who wants a wheel that sounds like a frozen margarita machine at idle. 

see my post on packaging.

oh yeah, the batteries can be fully charged using the supplied charger.

oh yeah, inmotion is gonna have a cover for the v10f.

on the tire, yes, it being the same tire as the 18s, except 16 instead of 18, does make slow turning more deliberate and there is gonna be a learning curve. on my first ride what i was thinking, wow, if 2.5 inch feels like this in 16” what is the z10 gonna feel like?

Edited May 10, 2018 by novazeus