fbhb Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Codespanker said: On the e-riders podcast this week it was stated that the “s20 eagle has left the nest and is in the way to e-riders” - not much more was said but it was clear they were going to get one very soon I watched that same podcast and personally would have to take their statement with a pinch of salt, as All distributors were originally expecting the S20 around December/January (I may prove to be wrong however!) But, in All honesty, I took it to mean that they were more canvassing for feedback to arrange a future date for a demo day for interested riders, with a view to then taking/bumping up pre orders! The last word on progress/delays was posted in this thread back in November alluding to March/April 2022, with a copy of text from an email sent out by eWheels, click on the link below: Edited December 28, 2021 by fbhb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_bike_kite Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I rather like their cavalier attitude to personal safety while testing a new wheel. Do they just wash the blood from the concrete from all the failed runs? I think if I tried that then it would look more like this: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enaon Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 3:51 AM, enaon said: I think they are using the accelerometer for the temp, I did not saw one on the heatsink, so you cannot really rely on reported temperature, dry paste will crack and create air gaps, a single mosfet failure is likely before you notice big temperature rise overall. It is a strong recommendation, and I would recommend this type of paste, not because it is Greek, but because I do not know another that has long life and can replace pads. if one has knowledge of good quality paste/pads suitable for our usage, please let us all know. https://www.amazon.com/viscous-thermal-replacement-60g-Aspire/dp/B00K04D3UK linus tech made a review of the k5 pro, they liked it. Just a reminder that it is very well suited for our use case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fbhb Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) King Song have just made this official announcement on Facebook regarding the upcoming S20, in which it now states that the batch production is delayed until February 2022, inline with what I believed to be the case (no chance to see production S20's arrive until March/April) and also stated here in a very recent post of mine: Edited December 31, 2021 by fbhb 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm10 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Gosh, I sure do hope that I'll get mine by April/May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post GoGeorgeGo Posted January 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2022 19 hours ago, Grimm10 said: Gosh, I sure do hope that I'll get mine by April/May. Plan on June. Figure production starts late February finishes by March. 40ish days by sea, time in customs, then time shipping to you so figure 65 days or so after production ends. And that's assuming no more delays and that shipping issues dont get worse 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadVlad Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 10 hours ago, GoGeorgeGo said: Plan on June. Figure production starts late February finishes by March. 40ish days by sea, time in customs, then time shipping to you so figure 65 days or so after production ends. And that's assuming no more delays and that shipping issues dont get worse As much as I hate to admit it ... that is probably the most realistic assessment at this stage. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miko.cz Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 dont be so pesimistic... Happy New year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Miko.cz Posted January 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) another KS20 youtube video - downhill on stones. This guy seems to be skilled and/or extreme lucky (by Electric Dreams) Edited January 3, 2022 by Miko.cz 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhpr262 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Wow, thats pretty crazy. I wouldnt dream of riding down that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 1/1/2022 at 7:31 AM, GoGeorgeGo said: Plan on June. Oh MAN. I had late May in the pool. But I'd rather wait if waiting means it has less teething pains. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGeorgeGo Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 15 hours ago, Tawpie said: Oh MAN. I had late May in the pool. But I'd rather wait if waiting means it has less teething pains. I mean may is definitely still in play. But i wouldn't bet the farm on it. Id hedge that bet with a later date 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Trade portals show they can be freighted by air by suppliers in China. If passenger planes allowed EUC's as checked luggage, might be cheaper, quicker and easier to fly to Shenzen and purchase at the Chinese market price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eucner Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, Paul A said: Trade portals show they can be freighted by air by suppliers in China. If passenger planes allowed EUC's as checked luggage, might be cheaper, quicker and easier to fly to Shenzen and purchase at the Chinese market price. Especially with KingSong, there would be a high risk to have the wheel locked when home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Think KS abandoned the idea of geo locking though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniVehje Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 The delay is not surprising but I really hoped I could get one for the riding season from later batches. Now I have to pre-order and hope to get a good unit. And it might not even make it here until late summer. I already sold my V11 also. All because of chasing bigger numbers in spec sheets when all we wanted was better quality and comfort. Nothing wrong with 100V system. Right now the winning feature is availability. The market will be hot in just 3-4 months. V13 will not be available for another 6 months either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm10 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 More videos to get your blood pumping. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahan Seer Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I wonder if the S20 will use a similar configuration to the S18 which uses 2 slide tubes? or if they will use something different (maybe only one?). Looking forward to seeing the teardown and any positive or negative implications this might have (if any). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, The Brahan Seer said: I wonder if the S20 will use a similar configuration to the S18 which uses 2 slide tubes? or if they will use something different (maybe only one?). Looking forward to seeing the teardown and any positive or negative implications this might have (if any). Somebody mentioned that the sliding tubes are no longer used, and that they were replaced with joints on solid bars. I didn’t quite understand how it would come together, so I’m definitely waiting for more info on this as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaman Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Seeing the v12 cutout issue and how Inmotion knew about the MOSFET problem before it was discovered concerns me. Has Kingsong kept safety secrets like this? Rethinking my s20 preorder. Does ewheels allow delaying a preorder for later batches? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RagingGrandpa Posted January 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, Gaman said: Has Kingsong kept safety secrets 16X had numerous overlean crashes, that were worse with some versions of firmware... Then there was the Kingsong geofencing software-lockout scandal... Then S18 had a nightmare launch with many mechanical issues, and still anemic performance and many overlean crashes... Are these "secrets"? Not strictly speaking... (and neither is Inmo's dubious design choice in FET selection). The product worked well enough that the company decided to distribute it. And then they learned more things later. 13 minutes ago, Gaman said: Rethinking my s20 preorder. As you should- 1st batch wheels are almost never a reliable choice. The reason to preorder is simply because you're willing to add risk to gain exclusivity (first guy with the new toy, etc). (Would you really expect the first batch of the first 126V EUC to be trouble-free?) 15 minutes ago, Gaman said: Does ewheels allow delaying a preorder for later batches? Everything's negotiable, ask them! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniMe Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 1/4/2022 at 5:21 AM, mrelwood said: Somebody mentioned that the sliding tubes are no longer used, and that they were replaced with joints on solid bars. I didn’t quite understand how it would come together, so I’m definitely waiting for more info on this as well. I don't know exactly how the S20 is built, but really, should it not just be the crank and rear swing arm of a mountain bike? With the battery packed in the middle... These geometries and tech are long standing. I really don't get the 'reinvent the bike' strangeness. If not the rear swing arm (what I think is probably best for a real off road EUC) then it's the front shock set vertically. But not some made from scratch nonsense... just swap in mountain or motorcycle forks... how hard can it be? For the street, include a lock out like I have on my mountain bike so I can lower the wheel for fast maneuvers that don't require as much travel. Done and done! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, UniMe said: I don't know exactly how the S20 is built, but really, should it not just be the crank and rear swing arm of a mountain bike? With the battery packed in the middle... These geometries and tech are long standing. I really don't get the 'reinvent the bike' strangeness. If not the rear swing arm (what I think is probably best for a real off road EUC) then it's the front shock set vertically. But not some made from scratch nonsense... just swap in mountain or motorcycle forks... how hard can it be? For the street, include a lock out like I have on my mountain bike so I can lower the wheel for fast maneuvers that don't require as much travel. Done and done! "levers is hard, dat be de dern geometrees u be talkin' bout. I mostest smarter, me do much better than stoopid motocycle and industrial compny of past. me genus!".... reinventing the mousetrap is fun.... How you gonna market something properly, if it simply works but isnt flashy with lotsa gizmos and new unreliable specs? Solving problems to the end is for weenies. If it kinda works, add something else, or move on to the next mousetrap. Geez man, wisen up! *obviously I'm not helping. What can I say, Im multi-talented... Edited January 7, 2022 by ShanesPlanet 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miko.cz Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 On the other hand this is the very first time we see its really in some testing stage (public videos). And KS was able to admit delay (twice: first Jack hold KS early hype when V12 was introduced and second now when they are testing and found some BMS issues). My reason for pre-order was discount for early order, Jack and trust in Czech seller support, Ekolka. Of course I already bought much better personal armor, I will not ride 70km/h and well, Ill be simple nice to it with hope in same device response Im trying to stay positive. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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