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Will you be doing a range test and will that range apply to the Pro version as well? How does it compare size wise to other 16" wheels like the 16X or Nikola?

I suspect it would be too expensive to cover personal injury. Same thing for insuring your house against damages from an EUC fire. I also suspect it won't cover any damages to your own vehicle but I would expect it to cover damages to other vehicles and people. If such a 3rd party insurance was available here in the UK then I'd jump at it.

I tend to stay out in the traffic in the same position as a motorcycle as I don't like cars trying to squeeze past. I'm fine up to 30mph and don't ride on roads that go faster than this. When I have to turn, I just point with my hand to where I intend to turn keeping my arms at my sides but with maybe a 45 degree bend in my elbow. I find this doesn't catch the wind. If it's a really blustery day then I might consider leaving the EUC at home.

and what is the formula for the calculation?

I must admit I'm getting bored of all these short teaser videos. I also can't work out which video is showing the normal version of the wheel and which is really the pro version. I think I'll stop watching more videos on the wheel until it's in the hands of an independent reviewer with a more generous body weight. Is the price of the Pro version still $1?99 or is it closer to $??99?

So it was just a rough guess then?

In all honesty I don't think I can but then I'm not sure I have to. I can simply point to various 84v wheels like the 18XL and 16X they both get over 80km with 1554Wh batteries. That's an economy of 19Wh/km. My 100v Nikola has an economy of about 24Wh/km but the 84v Nicola economy is better at 20Wh/km. Similarly with the 84v Monster (16Kw/Km) vs the 100v Monster (24Wh/km). If we go to higher voltage wheels like the S22 which is 2400Wh it has an economy of only 30Wh/km. I could go on... The problem (in my eyes) is that the S16 is the new 16X but with suspension. I liked the 16X but it wasn't fast enough and it cost more than the Nikola Plus I have now. If the S16 has a similar top speed issue then it probably isn't for me which is a shame as I like almost every other aspect of the wheel S16. There was however a lot of riders of the 16X that had cut outs. Very few of them could understand why. It was usually when they were suspiciously close to the 40% limit. Strictly speaking it's the users that turn off the tilt back on their Gotways in order to see how fast they can go. When they then exceed the top speed of the wheel it cuts out. That's a fault of the users and not the wheel. My own Gotway tilts back very reliably at the 30mph top speed I have set. If the 900Wh battery packs were a little safer then I'd be more than happy with my current wheel.

It sounds like an Inmotion V10F is in your future. I only see one or two fires on any 84v wheels and they all seem to have come from misuse. I don't think it's that simple. The voltage does seem to play a large part in range as the older 84v wheels from KS go further than the modern higher voltage wheels even though the older 84v wheels had smaller batteries. I know you can go faster on these newer wheels but when looking at real world tests from careful riders (like Marty) then their range results show the difference. I'm not convinced the weight of the wheel would make much of a difference. The 16X did have a lot of cut outs reported. They usually came from larger riders (like me) riding around 30mph (50kph). I think it was something to do with the top speed being dynamically changed as the battery level declined - one moment everything was fine then the battery touched 40% and the top speed gets reset and the wheel cut out as it was exceeding the new top speed. It was the reason I went for the Nikola rather than the 16X because I knew I needed that 30mph top end for certain roads I have to travel on. Unfortunately the S22 is probably too much wheel for me and more money than I want to spend. I like the performance figures of the S19 but it just looks too fragile for me. The S16 looks much better designed and more strongly built but I suspect it will perform the same as the older 16X and just be a little too slow for the roads where I live. I'll admit I find it more enjoyable riding at 25mph (40kph) but if vehicles are moving at 30mph (50kph) then I have to move at the same speed. On my Nikola Plus I set the top speed to 30mph (50kmh) and it tilts me back if I start to exceed this and if I accelerate too hard on a hill with a low battery then the beeps warn me but I certainly never worry about a cut out.

I like this wheel. I use my wheel purely for transport in the city and on suburban roads. I don't ride up and down stairs but I wouldn't mind suspension IF the wheel wasn't going to fall apart in a crash. I liked the look of the S22 but it's more wheel than I need and it costs more than I'd want to pay - particularly as the police here in the UK can confiscate wheels. The S19 on paper looks a better fit for me but it just doesn't look very rugged. The S16 seems to be well designed, especially with the pads protecting the wheel in a fall. Whether pads are a good addition on a wheel like this is another question - it would help with braking but I'd imagine pads would also make it easier to make the wheel cut out. Things I don't mind are the 84v - the older 84v wheels seem to offer more range and the batteries are generally safer but obviously you get less ooomph. Things I'm not sure about are the rear light - is it that difficult to put a decent red light on the back of these wheels? is red just unlucky for the Chinese? I don't like all the silly stuff like the unnecessary LED lighting or the speakers but hey ho. Can all the lights be quickly turned off so I can walk into supermarkets etc or do I need to pull my phone out each time? Can the pedals be adjusted? It would be nice to know how comfortable the handle is for a 6'3" person (190cm). Is the new version of the suspension OK now? Is the S16 about the same size as the old 16X? I assume it's much bigger than the old 16S. Real world range would be nice to know - will it be like the old 16X which was great. My only worry is that I ride between 40-50kph on the road (I never go off-road, at least not on purpose). How guaranteed is that 50kph? is it just at 100% battery or will it cut out if the battery creeps down to 40%? Today I was on my Nikola Plus with the battery at 25% and comfortably cruising at 30mph without beeps. I don't mind loosing a little speed but I just don't want a wheel to cut out on me. I'm actually a bit surprised they don't use a more modular design for all their suspension wheels - those parts you'd expect to be common across the wheels are different. Having everything different on each wheel means parts will be harder to source and more expensive.

Interesting approach but personally I'd put the light stuff (hammock tent and sleeping bag) on my back and heavier stuff in a canvas bag tied across the top of the wheel. With motorcycling, hard panniers can get punished in a fall but perhaps you don't off come off. Saying that, I don't ride off road and I certainly don't go on overnight trips with the wheel so what the hell would I know.

Just to give a review of my little "EUC Garage". I think it worked well. It was outside in the shade and the temp internally ranged between 13C (55F) and 23C (73F). It was also completely watertight. It also didn't upset the wife. If you do have a nagging doubt about leaving your EUC in the house while you're away on holiday and you have somewhere outside in the shade then I think it works well. I'll move my wheel back inside soon and the wife can use the box for gardening things until the next holiday. I thought it was great value for the money.

I kind of guessed that well before the end of the first paragraph It's not so bad being married though, there are certainly side benefits and I'm pretty much allowed to do as I please as long as I don't endanger the rest of the family.

OK, I've just built my holiday EUC garage. It seems fairly well built and waterproof and I've put it in a shady spot. I'll probably leave a few bricks on top to keep the lid down if the wind really starts to blow. They'll also help to shield it from the sun. The EUC just fits inside, on it's side, at an angle. I've also put a thermometer thing in there just to record the min and max temps. I guess it will be obvious if any rain gets in (it's going to rain tomorrow) or if it does catch fire Lets see how it goes.

Good idea regards having the box upside down. The garden box I linked to above is arriving tomorrow so I'll see if I can do that. I probably won't be able to as I'll need to have the wheel at an angle to fit in the box (it's a very close fit). I suppose I could build the box around the wheel. Better yet I could ask my elder son just to do the heavy lifting.

Guys, I'm just trying to appease the wife, not construct Fort Knox! I'm fairly sure the chances of anything happening is miniscule but if the wife is happy and house doesn't burn down then, as far as I'm concerned, it's a win. If putting the wheel in the box doesn't damage the wheel then it's a double win. If the worst happens and the box explodes into a fireball then my kids can just sort out the mess while we're away.