Yvan Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 106 kph x 75% = 80kph = 50 mph 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexutlang Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 11 hours ago, Beekersguy said: How accurate do you believe the 106 kph lift speed to be? Wouldn't that put top speed a tick below 55 mph? It's a little frustrating that no load speed is only 106kph when sherman with 2500w motor have almost the same lift speed. Hopefully it has more torque than sherman given it has 3500w motor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mike Sacristan Posted September 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Alexutlang said: It's a little frustrating that no load speed is only 106kph when sherman with 2500w motor have almost the same lift speed. Hopefully it has more torque than sherman given it has 3500w motor. For that wheel diameter it is going to need it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 the bigger motor is the best upgrade, we don't need watt for speed, we need them for torque and authority. monster pro is just 1inch bigger than v3, the increased power and speed will make it awesome. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuerte Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 I hope that this is going to be my next wheel, but now that we as a community have a taste of suspension, it is going to be hard for any wheel without suspension. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EMA Posted September 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Fuerte said: I hope that this is going to be my next wheel, but now that we as a community have a taste of suspension, it is going to be hard for any wheel without suspension. Did you ever try a Monster? 23inch compared 19 is almost like suspension 👍 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chulander Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 On 9/8/2020 at 6:12 PM, EMA said: Did you ever try a Monster? 23inch compared 19 is almost like suspension 👍 suspensions doesn't make sense on bigger wheels, smaller ones maybe. until there are independent suspensions per pedal, i think they're all pointless. rather use that space for batteries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, chulander said: suspensions doesn't make sense on bigger wheels, smaller ones maybe. exactly what i mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvan Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 For off-road there would be a real advantage with the Suspentions. But beware the independent suspension adds a lot of instability to the driving. The 2 padals must work together. In any case, the weight and the large size of the GMP make it a wheel for the road. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseofjob Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Yvan said: For off-road there would be a real advantage with the Suspentions. The point is, if given the option, why would you pick a 24" suspension wheel over the much greater natural torque of a 14" or 16" suspension wheel, ie no trade-offs in shock absorption with the added torque and compact portable size benefits? Edited September 10, 2020 by houseofjob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post redfoxdude Posted September 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) I think folks would be rather surprised at how much a difference suspension makes. I have both the Monster and the S18. Small bumps may be comparable on a larger wheel, but anything more than that and suspension starts to stand out. Now, high speed stability is where I think the larger wheels really shine, but if you're after other aspects of ride quality, I would take a smaller wheel with suspension any day, for the torque, as @houseofjob mentioned, as well as nimble maneuverability. I respectfully disagree on the independent suspension for each pedal. Both the V11 and S18's suspension systems are quite effective at both ride comfort and safety. Their necessity is debatable, but I would argue that they are far from "pointless." Having experienced the effectiveness of suspension on an EUC, I'm not convinced on independent pedal suspension. Wouldn't that dampen your inputs into the EUC? Edited September 10, 2020 by redfoxdude 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wilson Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, houseofjob said: The point is, if given the option, why would you pick a 24" suspension wheel over the much greater natural torque of a 14" or 16" suspension wheel, ie no trade-offs in shock absorption with the added torque and compact portable size benefits? You are ignoring the shallower angle of attack on a larger diameter wheel. There is a reason why mountain bikes have large wheels in comparison to their overall size. Instead of trying to explain why a larger wheel can help when going over obstacles, I will insert a graphic to do the explaining for me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post houseofjob Posted September 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Mark Wilson said: You are ignoring the shallower angle of attack on a larger diameter wheel. There is a reason why mountain bikes have large wheels in comparison to their overall size. Instead of trying to explain why a larger wheel can help when going over obstacles, I will insert a graphic to do the explaining for me. Interesting graphic, but I’m afraid you are leaving out important factors that are added by the input being body lean v gyroscope, as this is not simple manual pedaling here. The bigger you make an EUC, the longer a leverage torque arm you technically need to make with longer pedals and lean targeted towards the end of said pedals to illicit the same comparative power as with smaller wheels, but we are limited by the dimensions of our feet and body lean, and larger EUCs often sport relatively the same length pedals as their smaller counterparts. This is why you hear many complain about the “lack of torque” on the 22” larger Monster, but anyone who has accelerated while seated on this wheel knows the Monster is not lacking torque, it just can’t be achieved by the comparatively shorter pedals with simple vertical plane body lean. Smaller EUCs are not just more “torque”-y due to the small wheel diameter: it’s because our body size relative to the wheel is proportionally bigger, and we can achieve more lean force leverage in relation to the smaller wheel. Edited September 10, 2020 by houseofjob 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvan Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Of course. the power pads are essential on the monster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseofjob Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Yvan said: Of course. the power pads are essential on the monster. I'm perfectly fine without them as I don't hug-and-tug the wheel, but whatever fits your fancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erk1024 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Interesting. There are no Monsters listed anymore on eWheels. Not even the V3's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shield Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, erk1024 said: Interesting. There are no Monsters listed anymore on eWheels. Not even the V3's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post houseofjob Posted September 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, erk1024 said: Interesting. There are no Monsters listed anymore on eWheels. Not even the V3's. It was inevitable. Rumor has it Johnny B Goode switched motor manufacturers, hence why all the new wheels are hollow bore, plus the whole streamlining thing. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seage Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 7 hours ago, houseofjob said: It was inevitable. Rumor has it Johnny B Goode switched motor manufacturers, hence why all the new wheels are hollow bore, plus the whole streamlining thing. Ive purchased a brand new dinosaur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseofjob Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, seage said: Ive purchased a brand new dinosaur. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jo Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Production is going to be delayed for another month....somehow delay is from motor manufacturer.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrd777 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 36 minutes ago, Steve Jo said: Production is going to be delayed for another month....somehow delay is from motor manufacturer.. Well this is helpful information, Gotway is utterly silent on their MP production schedule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Jo Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Mrd777 said: Well this is helpful information, Gotway is utterly silent on their MP production schedule. Not Gotway, but the delay is from motor manufacturer unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jia Liu Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Just pre-ordered Monster Pro from ewheels, can't wait!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jia Liu said: Just pre-ordered Monster Pro from ewheels, can't wait!! I don't see it on their website! Did you have to order it by email? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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