INMOTION V11 (2020)

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[Mrd777]

Interesting, was it confirmed 100volt?

[UniVehje]

Looks very nice and I don’t mind 50km/h but the battery is not enough! Waiting for V11F. 

[stephen]

I like the look👍 the battery might be good tbh  depending how it uses its power, the  suspension looks good and the lights also cool looking,  tyre tread 👍 overall I like the wheel 50kmh is fine but how long will it substain that throughout the battery,   

I like it 😁👍

[EUC Custom Power-Pads]

Also not realy impressed.

• just 50 km/h (and as we know inmotion, with decreasing battery levels this will quickly become less)

• just 1420wh

• Pads for jumping does not work anymore

• 70mm suspension travel, but without driver. What's left over if someone's on it

• One crash and it'll be an expensive repair

• Scorpion Trolley again

• who wants to get the dirt out of the wheel after every offroad ride with so many openings and gaps?

But the Lights are awesome!

In my opinion it is more of a show wheel than an off-road wheel.

 

 

 

Edited April 3, 2020 by buell47

[Epic53]

Just now, UniVehje said:

Looks very nice and I don’t mind 50km/h but the battery is not enough! Waiting for V11F. 

Agreed. It was all going well, until the battery was unveiled. IMO, the front light + suspension kinda makes up for it. I know there aren’t that many nighttime riders, but I happen to be one of them so i appreciate the extra lumens. Also, I believe that they see suspension as an off-roading use case, but I’m looking at it from a commuters perspective, this will make the ride that much more comfortable. The V10f was already known for being the magic carpet of wheels, now adding sandpaper pedals and suspension to that equation = decent commuter wheel. Still not the happiest with the battery, but maybe later this year?

[Tazarinho]

No mention of weatherproofing, if it was really a step up, there would have been a slide on it. Also not impressed by the battery and range.
History seems to say we should cut the range figure at least in half.

A bit disappointed, but at least my girlfriend won't have to kill me for spending money on another wheel. 

[FreeRide]

Hmmm.  Interesting.  Need to wait for the actual reviews to see how it works in real life.  That was a very lame product introduction, but at least it is now official and we just have to wait for the influencers to get a test unit so we can see real world application.  

In general I like it, and if they make a V11F it would be more exciting.  

Waiting for the real reviews!

[Tazarinho]

8 minutes ago, buell47 said:

70mm suspension travel, but without driver. What's left over if someone's on it

Maybe heavy riders won't have any

 

[Meserias]

https://youtu.be/pKxxa5E1tAQ?t=1232

link above it's where new V11 presentation begins....
we are not interested here about escooters

[mrelwood]

8 minutes ago, h3X said:

I'd buy it if it had 20 km/h more speed and more than 2000 Wh battery.

Those were obviously unrealistic numbers to begin withe. Back in this world though:

The event was interesting to watch, but not because of the event itself being very interesting. Everything screamed "this is our first unveiling"... And the technical data was surprisingly scarce:

• 84V or 100V? Unknown.
• Nominal motor power? Unknown.
• Motor magnet width? Unknown.
• Battery speed throttling? Not a word.
• Free air speed? You wish.
• Suspension operation, durability, and maintenance? "Air springs."
• Weight? Unknown.
• Charger current? No mention.

I hope they get the demo unit in circulation soon, too many questions remain. 70mm of suspension travel is a great achievement, and it will definitely do it's job, even if it would compress 50% from the weight of the rider alone. Or perhaps especially then.

[EUC Custom Power-Pads]

7 minutes ago, Tazarinho said:

Maybe heavy riders won't have any

 

Since the range always refers to a 50kg Chinese at 20 km/h, I assume that the suspension is also adjusted to 50kg. That can't be good!

[Asphalt]

The Air-Spring Suspension is an interesting choice.

Advantages:

• Tuneable for rider weight and riding conditions
• Possibly real-time tuneable with electronic control valves

Disadvantages:

• Air leaks and flats
• Complex maintenance

It'd be amazing if the suspension was adjustable through the app, but since this wasn't mentioned in the presentation, I'm not holding my breathe. I just hope they provide some way to tune the suspension, even if it's just with a bike pump.

Edited April 3, 2020 by Asphalt
Corrected mis-spelled words.

[mike_bike_kite]

I like the look of the wheel. I like the idea of the suspension but still need to see it in action. I also liked the idea of putting better lighting on a wheel - the rear lighting looked good but the front looks needlessly powerful - a car headlamp is 6000 Lumen but this is 7800??? The handle looks good to me - I quite liked the scorpion handle on my Vf5. The top section looks like it could be easily damaged in a crash. Not so keen on the price

Questions:

• How much does it weigh?
• Is the front light blinding to other traffic?
• Does the suspension  actually help?
• What type of batteries do they use and what's the voltage?
• Do they use some sort of magic to get 75miles out of 1420Wh?
• 3 x padding sounded good but whats it like for a rider getting their legs round - do you need to be John Wayne to ride it?
• Can the top section and stand withstand crashes? (patiently waiting for Kuji Rolls test video)

[EDIT]sorry to repeat questions but it takes me longer time to type than others

[EDIT2]I was wrong about the 7800 lumen, it was 7800 lux. 

Edited April 3, 2020 by mike_bike_kite

[Cumulus Libre]

Hmm, I just watched their show, I am relatively enthusiastic and although I have still some questions I am interested in how this V11F will perform...

For starters I don't understand the negative comments here, we are on an EUC forum so why not cheer for any brand that is pushing forward our beloved EUC community, I see quite some new development over other brands and I am very happy that Inmotion is investing in the development of new features like the suspension, lights, engine power, a stand...  

And this was a marketing pitch for an audience, all the technical details are never in such a pitch, you would bore 3/4 of the audience, so be patient I am sure we will know much more shortly !  

The V10F was for me an outstanding EUC, one that I still ride even when I have other EUC's , the riding comfort is awesome, having said this I hope the V11f will have the same riding experience ..

I hear not enough speed? is 50 not enough? for some daredevils nothing is enough, but this is a product that we want to see on our streets that is reliable and that can take the EUC experience serious and to another level, speed shouldn't be your first concern unless you want to see EUC's banned everywhere ! 

In regards to design I can see that I really like what they have done with it... I am looking forward to the first reviews and experiences.. 

The range is is ok for most of us.. 

One thing I didn't hear is the weight of this new V11F ? 

If every manufacture of any EUC brand would be able to bring ONE new working feature to the market every two years, then the face of the EUC market would radically change in the near futur, so a big shout for trying and investing !!

 

 

Edited April 3, 2020 by Cumulus Libre
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[Asphalt]

Edited April 3, 2020 by Asphalt
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[Hatchet]

I withhold judgement until I see the wheel in action by our usual gang of early reviewers. The only real point of interest to me is the suspension, so far. Let's see it perform.

Thinking of someone like Kuji riding this makes me wonder what happens when you bottom-out the suspension after a drop or jump. *Smash!*

[bigwave]

I like the look of the wheel. The lights fit in with the design very nicely. I think the deal breaker with the V11 will be the suspension performance and what options to tune are available.Back in the day when full suspension MTB came on the seen, some were unridable due to many factors, design, suspension components and quality of the components . I would be shocked if the V11 nails the suspension aspect in the first version.

The real testing will be by the people who test the wheels on youtube. They will provide the info we are all asking! 

[stephen]

3 minutes ago, Hatchet said:

what happens when you bottom-out the suspension after a drop or jump. *Smash!*

Good point 😬😬

[mike_bike_kite]

12 minutes ago, Cumulus Libre said:

The range is is ok for most of us.. 

One thing I didn't hear is the weight of this new V11F ?

The range stated would be fantastic for nearly everyone but sadly, with only a 1420Wh battery, that range looks like complete fiction. The problem with giving numbers like this is it makes you doubt the other stuff too. It's a also V11 not a V11F.

[Dave Wood]

jeez people still been moaning bastards i see n writing it off before they've even seen it in action.. I don't understand the negative comments, especially regarding range when battery (wh) looks comparable to anything on the market atm! im defo interested in this as ill be after a upgrade from my v10 in a few months so excited to see some real life testing and reviews

[Asphalt]

The scorpion handle looks like a nice evolution.

I just hope it works without shims and feels solid.

That hinge mechanism is a potential failure point, especially with the weight of this EUC.

The under-handle release latch looks ergonomically placed and should lock the handle in place during crashes.

Great to see the design-thinking put into these features. Hopefully the execution is good.

[Asphalt]

The kickstand looks to be a nice quality-of-life feature for parking your EUC on flat ground. Hope it stays locked in place during tumbles.

[UniVehje]

My thoughts after some pondering:

 

• design: looks pretty and aggressive. I like it. 
• lights: excellent! I’m not missing side leds at all.
• Speed: Enough for me, I’ve never needed more on my 18XL. 
• Suspension: Great! I like the idea that the whole cover moves. Probably a killer feature. 
• Tire: great choice and looks totally different. Looks like good mixed terrain tire. 18x3 is a good size. 
• Trolley handle: I always liked the V10F trolley and this is much better version. This is very good. And the cut off button is still best in the industry.
• Voltage: I really don’t care. 100v is only needed for more speed and it can already reach the limit. 
• Weight: 27 kg? A bit heavy but it’s a beefy motor plus it has suspension. I don’t mind.
• Motor: V10F was already max 4000W so this must be nominal 3000W. Looks wider and the diameter is more than the others. It’s also built in-house. Probably best in industry. 
• Charger: Two ports is good, but what about standard charger amps?
• Pedals: They are fine. Large and comfy but I would have liked to see something new here. What about pedal height?
• Battery: Disappointing! I doubt they let the cells go down to 3 volts like Kingsong. So the range would be significantly less than on my 18XL. This might be a dealbreaker for me as I do a lot of long distance riding. 90% of my needs are covered by this battery but what about early throttling? Why not just make the side covers wider and make a V11F model? I like that the batteries on the sides so it doesn’t require a wide stance. 

Availability is really end of summer so I might postpone purchase until next season and wait for bigger battery. If I had too much money this would be tempting as additional wheel for off-roading. Let’s see how the reviews go. Long wait ahead. 
 

I have to applaud Inmotion for daring to invest and come up with new great features. Just lacking a bit in the battery department. 

[UniVehje]