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    InMotion V8f

    EUCO did a disassembly of the V8f. Basically the same as the V8, but with improved weather sealing (silicone sealed control board and wheel well). The silicone sealant around the control board may make replacing the control board a little more difficult, but should keep debris out. The shell has higher ground clearance. They did not mention anything about the more powerful motor, batteries, control board or firmware.
  2. @Jason McNeil do you know anything about the firmware characteristics of the 18XL v2? Will throttling follow the same behaviour as the 16X firmware v1.07 where 5 kph throttling will occur at 33% battery?
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    InMotion V8f

    Official information from inmotionworld.com: https://www.inmotionworld.com/product/electric-unicycle-inmotion-v8f
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    InMotion V8f

    Hope they can sort out the high-speed vibrations and tilt-back issues. I’m excited about the potentially lighter weight on the production version, but am slightly skeptical with EUC manufacturers making changes between reviewed test units and production units - too high a chance of introducing new issues. I just hope InMotion doesn’t rush out the launch of the V8f and that they’ve learned their lesson from the V10 launch.
  5. @AtlasP can your buddy with the new KS-18XL v2 / KS-18XLH identify when speed throttling occurs? I'm curious if King Song has pushed it up to 50% battery like the KS-16X to accommodate the additional power requirements of the new motor, or if it's still 25% battery like the KS-18XL v1?
  6. Vancouver riders tend to chat and organize rides on the Facebook or Messenger group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/364036034314995/?ref=share Buying from Ali is cheapest, but be prepared to wait a long time for shipping and clearing customs. Also, if you have any problems with the wheel, you’ll likely have a tough time getting service. Thomas at VanEUC is great for service and provides a warranty. Pickup from his Chinatown location can save you shipping fees. Riding in the rain is fine as long as your wheel is properly weather sealed. AFAIK only the InMotions do a proper job of this from the factory. With the other wheels you’ll have to do some custom mods like covers or tape or spray sealant.
  7. It looks like the model number is KS-18LH, so they must have different firmware to accommodate the new hardware. @Jason McNeil if you upgrade the motor of an KS-18XL v1, which firmware do you use? Will you have to upgrade the control board as well?
  8. It's great that King Song are continuously improving their wheels, however the new motor and controller makes me question how they will handle firmware updates. Multiple firmwares targeting different hardware configurations? Or one firmware for all 18XL variants? It'd be great if the new motor and controller allowed a top speed of 55 kph (34 mph). I think the only other update I'd like to see is moving to a 3-inch wide tire. Perhaps on the KS-18XXL?
  9. Will there be firmware updates to allow 18XL to take advantage of the 2200W motor?
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    InMotion V8f

    As a current V8 owner, I'm looking forward to upgrading to the V8F as my daily urban commuter (I have an 18XL for longer trips). If you're okay with the shorter range and voltage sag, the V8F, like the V8, has many ergonomic advantages over other EUCs (e.g. KS-16S): Light weight Quick-press power button to turn on/off wheel (Long-press to turn on/off light). Cut-off button under the handle. Solid handle. Power button located on the handle and can be pressed with your thumb while carrying the EUC. Trolley handle is spring-loaded and can be released with your thumb while carrying the EUC by the handle. IP55 rated. Stand built into the shell. Hinged door for accessing the tire valve. Battery status indicator that can be read while riding. Shell covers enough of the wheel to make a mud guard unnecessary. NO SOUND. Wheel is silent when turning on/off and charging. Okay, this may actually be an unintended side effect of having customizable sound, but I like my wheels silent - particularly useful when you're in an office environment. And of course, price! V8 $899 USD KS-16S $1350 USD V8f ??? The main reason I'm upgrading from V8 to V8f is for speed. Where I ride, mostly on bike paths, at 30 km/h you can pass most bikes, but sometimes it can take longer than is comfortable/safe. The extra 5 km/h will make passing safer. Also, on long downhill sections you want to be able to keep up with traffic. Finally, voltage sag from 35 to 30 km/h is better than 30 to 25 km/h.
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    InMotion V8f

    I'm not a new rider, but the V8f looks like it hits the sweet spot as an every day commuter. The additional 2.2 lb weight increase seems justified for all the improvements. If the price is reasonable, this will be hit. Looks like InMotion took user feedback to heart on this upgrade. The only improvement I'd like to see is a better rear light - something that is visible by cars and operates like a standard vehicle light (solid on state, but gets brighter when braking).
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    InMotion V8f

    Comparing the V8f specs from https://personalelectrictransport.co.uk/shop/electric-unicycle/inmotion-v8f-electric-unicycle/ with the V8 specs from https://www.inmotionworld.com/product/electric-unicycle-inmotion-v8 Model V8f V8 Top Speed 35 km/h 30 km/h Range 55-60km 45-50 km Slopes 30° 25° Battery 518Wh 480Wh Temperature -10℃/+60℃ -10℃/+40℃ Max Load 120kg 120kg Charger Input: AC 90~240V Output: DC 84V @ 1.5A Input: AC 100~240V Output: DC 84V @ 1.5A Rated Power 1000W 800W Pedal Height 155mm 151mm Tire 16*2.125 in 16*1.95 in Weight 14.5 kg 13.5 kg
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    InMotion V8f

    Are you sure those specs are official? The photos on that page are of the V8 (small pedals and no cushioned side pads).
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    InMotion V8f

    EUCO just did an unboxing of the new InMotion V8f. It looks a little bigger, has V10 pedals and built-in side pads. Looking forward to learning more about the internals and specs. I just hope they were able to keep a reasonable weight and weather-resistance, as the V8 has been a very ergonomic commuter wheel.
  15. Ease of Maintenance Features: Access to inner components without having to risk stripping a dozen screws. A latch system like most modern computer tower cases would work. All cables using labelled connectors. Cable guides build into the case. Ability to swap all components without soldering. Easy access to tire valve. Easy tire and inner tube replacement. Quality of Life Features: Seals to keep water and dust out of the wheel. Vibration dampened, water resistant protective housing around batteries and control board. Fire containment system in case batteries catch fire while charging. Built-in stand for when the wheel is stationary. Adjustable overlean angle for riding on pump tracks and stunts. Adjustable headlight angle. Built-in charger. Battery status the can be read while riding. Silent mode. Customizable sounds. Customizable LED light animations. Vibration alerts in addition to beeps. Updatable firmware. Accurate mileage and speed data. Configurable settings based on rider weight. Extendable / hide-able fender. Configurable firmware settings. I know that’s any oxymoron, but what if EUC manufacturers allowed you to customize your own control settings, similar to VESC in esk8?
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