houseofjob Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 7 hours ago, winterwheel said: Looks very interesting but I wonder how hard it would be to get that on the rim. I ordered one anyway, very curious to see if/how it would work. I imagine a humongous PITA! but some heat and lubricant I imagine would do the trick. I'm curious myself, which is why I mentioned, please report back! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseofjob Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 2 hours ago, -iB- said: Nice vid, very promising little wheel. it's making it much harder for me to resist this... I'm almost tempted to switch my T4 deposit to this instead, but I need at least 1 wheel that can go longer distances! I kinda miss wheel delimma! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_bike_kite Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Like everyone else I love the looks of the big headlamp on this wheel. Personally I feel the overall design should be shouting small and cute but instead the design seems to be saying small and angry (which is a different message). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjPanJan Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Mten4 looks amazing with spec great too but is not mten3 (backpack EUC) anymore what i see is very close to KS16X what i own in meaning how and where i imagine ride it. I am shure this EUC be KIDS choice number ONE because comapre to mten3 biger tire potencialy can prevent many overleans on potholes or small curbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 6 hours ago, mike_bike_kite said: design seems to be saying small and angry Chihuahua 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_bike_kite Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 46 minutes ago, Tawpie said: Chihuahua That's not a look I would aim for! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
360rumors Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 8 hours ago, mike_bike_kite said: Like everyone else I love the looks of the big headlamp on this wheel. Hm personally I think it looks awkward, and ditto with the gigantic tail light. I don't understand why the headlights are so big on a wheel that isn't designed for high speed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, 360rumors said: I don't understand why the headlights are so big on a wheel that isn't designed for high speed. Because people who makes these thing don't ride themselves... Otherwise we would have good product, not these "things". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OldFartRides Posted August 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2022 Styling. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Me likey. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_bike_kite Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, OldFartRides said: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You're right of course but ... 1 hour ago, 360rumors said: Hm personally I think it looks awkward, and ditto with the gigantic tail light. I don't understand why the headlights are so big on a wheel that isn't designed for high speed. I'd prefer it if the case was a simple smooth shape, like a slim minion, that encased the wheel. I'd keep the front light but replace the rear light with a simple tall slim rectangular light in red. Something like this should look fun and cute. Not everything has to look like a futuristic battle tank. The handle should also allow for a shoulder strap option (the girl in the initial image doesn't look strong enough to pick it up by the handle). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwheel Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, mike_bike_kite said: I'd prefer it if the case was a simple smooth shape, like a slim minion, that encased the wheel. I'd keep the front light but replace the rear light with a simple tall slim rectangular light in red. Something like this should look fun and cute. Not everything has to look like a futuristic battle tank. The handle should also allow for a shoulder strap option (the girl in the initial image doesn't look strong enough to pick it up by the handle). I'd love to be able to fabricate my own outer shells for a few of these different wheel models... really they're just a bit of plastic, right? Seems like it shouldn't be so difficult to do that. Edited August 25, 2022 by winterwheel damn typos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_bike_kite Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, winterwheel said: I'd love to be able to fabricate my own outer shells for a few of these different wheel models... really they're just a bit of plastic, right? Seems like it shouldn't be so difficult to do that. I don't know much about 3D plastic printing but I suspect finding a large enough printer might be difficult, even for the mten4. I suspect you'd want to use ABS plastic as that's what they use on motorcycle fairings. You'd probably have to use vacuum moulding rather than 3D printing. I'm not sure how you'd attach it to the internal frame (assuming there is one). Maybe use the original case for the mould as that would get all the attachments correct but then add your changes to the original shell using 3D printing? I agree that the designers of EUC cases don't seem to realise that people need to live with the end result. A lot of wheels look like they'd not survive a decent tumble. The older MSX which was very popular was never seen without sticky tape holding the shell together. Even my Nikola, a wheel that is known to be fairly tough, is made from a material that scratches if you even look at the road ... and they could also put a slight dimple for the legs which would allow better braking and accelerating ... and the areas either side of the dimples could be used to absorb impacts and protect the batteries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Sam Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 I can't wait to make 3d printed dew dads for this thing! I suspect you can make your own outer shell and slice it into multiple prints. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Soon the euc makers will offer only wheel "Innings". Buyers can 3D print their own wheel. (Ofc the 3D printing files will cost 49.99$ And will be one time read files only.) So no one else can copy paste the files over internet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Heyzeus Posted August 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2022 6 hours ago, Funky said: Soon the euc makers will offer only wheel "Innings". Buyers can 3D print their own wheel. (Ofc the 3D printing files will cost 49.99$ And will be one time read files only.) So no one else can copy paste the files over internet. I know you're being sarcastic but this community is full of crazy skilled enthusiasts with a wide breadth of talents With users who regularly find engineering flaws or mistakes and come up with fixes and users like @Seba who literally program apps to manage multiple wheels from multiple manufacturers and do a better job than any of the manufacturers have done so far I have no doubt that if a company did do this the DRM would be cracked quickly and the plans would be widely available. And then some other user would find a flaw in the plans and come out with better revised plans 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZweemZ Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 okay,correction... axle is 17mm, narrower than the mten3's at 19mm, correct me if im wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 360rumors Posted August 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2022 I saw this shot of mten3 and mten4 side by side on the Mten3 / Mten 4 Facebook group 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enaon Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 8 hours ago, ZweemZ said: okay,correction... axle is 17mm, narrower than the mten3's at 19mm, correct me if im wrong. all wheels, veteran sherman, s18, 16s, ninebot E, gotway monster3 etc, have the 6203 bearing, thus 17mm axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, enaon said: all wheels, veteran sherman, s18, 16s, ninebot E, gotway monster3 etc, have the 6203 bearing, thus 17mm axle. Can't they simply go 1 bearing size up? Instead of 17mm they could go 20mm. 6204 I bet most people would love that change. Heck even 6205 the 25mm axle would be great... (Yeah remaking all molds, etc, in manufacturing lineup is "hard", expensive.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enaon Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Funky said: Can't they simply go 1 bearing size up? Instead of 17mm they could go 20mm. 6204 I bet most people would love that change. Heck even 6205 the 25mm axle would be great... (Yeah remaking all molds, etc, in manufacturing lineup is "hard", expensive.) that would be an easy change, only the side cover need to be changed and would allow for thicker wires. But my point is that the mten3 had no "thin" axle, low quality metal maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eucner Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 34 minutes ago, enaon said: all wheels, veteran sherman, s18, 16s, ninebot E, gotway monster3 etc, have the 6203 bearing, thus 17mm axle. Veteran Sherman has 20 mm axle and 6204 bearing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, enaon said: that would be an easy change, only the side cover need to be changed and would allow for thicker wires. But my point is that the mten3 had no "thin" axle, low quality metal maybe. Actually you would need also change motor, as the axle goes true it.. Also pedal hangers - bigger hole. So manufacturers will need to change many things. I was saying that they would need new molds, etc.. For the machines that make the metals/parts. "Expansive" to change.. But would greatly improve the axle. Edited August 28, 2022 by Funky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enaon Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Funky said: Actually you would need also change motor as the axle goes true it.. So manufacturers will need to change many things. sure, but not that big of a change. thanks for the info on the Sherman, sorry for the missinformation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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