Marty Backe Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 55 minutes ago, Rehab1 said: Yes @Smoother is correct that helmet manufacturers ( Bell in my case) do not recommend painting them. Anyone want a nice pristine black helmet? I really think that this is a case of manufacturers not wanting their product messed with. They don't want people disassembling their products, fixing them, etc. Wake up people! You are in control. Use common sense. In this particular case, the solvents in spray paints dissipate quite rapidly and after the paint is cured, it's inactive and can't interact with the plastic in the helmet. Paint away @Rehab1, although I'm pretty sure I'm preaching to the choir with you 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WARPed1701D Posted February 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Marty Backe said: I really think that this is a case of manufacturers not wanting their product messed with. They don't want people disassembling their products, fixing them, etc. Wake up people! You are in control. Use common sense. In this particular case, the solvents in spray paints dissipate quite rapidly and after the paint is cured, it's inactive and can't interact with the plastic in the helmet. Paint away @Rehab1, although I'm pretty sure I'm preaching to the choir with you https://www.helmets.org/paint.htm Quote Paints and Plastics Paint varies widely. Some paints have solvents in them that improve their grip on the surface and aid the drying process. If the solvents are incompatible with the helmet shell material they can possibly attack the shell, weakening it. Plastic can "craze" with jillions of tiny cracks running in all directions. The damage may not be highly visible, particularly since it is covered by the paint. And the weaker plastic may or may not ever make a difference in a crash, depending on where you hit. Not all paints attack helmet shells. Some plastic shells are actually clear, and are painted underneath with paint that is compatible with the shell material. To make sure there is no problem, you need paint that is compatible with the shell of your helmet. If you are dealing with a single brand and model of helmet the manufacturer should be able to tell you if the particular paint you want to use is compatible with their shell. Spraying paints complicates the question, since "overspray" is likely to contact the helmet's foam as well as the shell. Almost all foams used in bicycle helmets are damaged by petroleum-based solvents found in many paints. (You can prove this to yourself by putting a chunk of foam in a small amount of gasoline. The resultant goo makes are really strong adhesive.) Even if the paint is compatible with the shell material, extraordinary measures would be required to keep any overspray from contacting the foam at any point. So our recommendation would be to find a paint that is compatible with both the helmet shell and the helmet foam. Unfortunately, we are not qualified to tell you what paint that might be, and can only repeat the advice to contact the helmet manufacturer. Personally, I will not be spraying a helmet, especially a vented EPS foam one. I don't trust big corporate in general but I feel there is enough science to suggest helmet spraying isn't an path I want to take with the thing protecting my brain. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasenutty Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, WARPed1701D said: https://www.helmets.org/paint.htm Personally, I will not be spraying a helmet, especially a vented EPS foam one. I don't trust big corporate in general but I feel there is enough science to suggest helmet spraying isn't an path I want to take with the thing protecting my brain. Thank god, we were all worried about what your decision would be PS - Get well soon, Rehab Edited February 5, 2018 by kasenutty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 37 minutes ago, WARPed1701D said: https://www.helmets.org/paint.htm Personally, I will not be spraying a helmet, especially a vented EPS foam one. I don't trust big corporate in general but I feel there is enough science to suggest helmet spraying isn't an path I want to take with the thing protecting my brain. I read that link. Feels a bit like fear mongering to me. But that's just me. My assumption is that if a person is painting their helmet then they are properly masking it such that the foam and insides are protected. Everyone finds their own comfort level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, LanghamP said: @Rehab1, not sure if you're keeping your helmet but might want to check for compressed styrofoam. My skateboard helmet has been compressed on one side even though I don't recall crashing there. Thanks! I looked inside and the foam appears to be non-compressed throughout. Edited February 5, 2018 by Rehab1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rehab1 Posted February 5, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Marty Backe said: I read that link. Feels a bit like fear mongering to me. But that's just me. My assumption is that if a person is painting their helmet then they are properly masking it such that the foam and insides are protected. Everyone finds their own comfort level. It is a bit concerning so I am having the paint removed in this vat of chemicals. Edited February 5, 2018 by Rehab1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmethvin Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 5 hours ago, WARPed1701D said: You can prove this to yourself by putting a chunk of foam in a small amount of gasoline. The resultant goo makes are really strong adhesive. Styrofoam + gasoline ==> napalm basically, its super flammable and sticks to everything. My bike helmet is basically an extremely thin plastic laminate over styrofoam so I don't think I would paint it for fear of dissolving the styrofoam. Motorcycle helmets are much thicker plastic so maybe they deal with paint better. Who knows though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rehab1 Posted February 6, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2018 Waiting for surgery. Thank you for everyone’s kind support! 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethereal Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Looks like you are the first patient in the lineup. it is always best to be the first patient. Everybody is awake and alert and it will be less likely for your case to be bumped by an emergency and then you won’t be waiting too long for your surgery to start. Best of luck to you! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveThomasPilot Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Good luck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TremF Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Good luck mate. Keep us posted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted February 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2018 5 hours ago, Rehab1 said: Waiting for surgery. Thank you for everyone’s kind support! Oh the indignity of hospital stays. Thank you for not posting a shot from behind Good luck, although you won't need it 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rehab1 Posted February 6, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2018 Thanks everyone for your thoughts! It means the world to me!!!! Unfortunately the fractures were much worse than what the physician expected. I just got home. I can only emphasize: Please be careful! 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Holy **** this looks bad. Do you know how this will proceed/heal? Must have been a really unlucky fall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rehab1 said: Thanks everyone for your thoughts! It means the world to me!!!! Unfortunately the fractures were much worse than what the physician expected. I just got home. I can only emphasize: Please be careful! Wow, those are some images. I have to admit this is scary stuff, to see what our wheels can do to us. Is some form of this in all of our futures. Just a matter of time. Maybe today, tomorrow, or 3-years from now? If only these wheels weren't so damn fun! What are we to do 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasenutty Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Daaaammm, he's got dead guy bones now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LanghamP Posted February 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2018 @Rehab1's crash reinforces the importance of being spiritually prepared for this eventuality, and while some of us may or may not have insurance and various contingency plans (disability insurance?), we must also realize that human bodies going faster than what we're evolved for is always dangerous. On the plus side, running around like concerned clucking hens over Dan's crash is so much better than the gruesome crashes and deaths we see with sportbikes who speed excessively. Chances of a future crash with injury...approaching 100% the longer you do. Don't sweat it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryman Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Marty Backe said: Unfortunately the fractures were much worse than what the physician expected Wow Dan! ..... Hang in there; you have a long road to recovery but you can DO IT! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esash Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Count your blessings Dan. First class medical care. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted February 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2018 Whoa that resembles my bird house project from Industrial Arts in grade 7. When you got power tools you find yourself no shortage of screws or lack of a sale at Home Depot! I should have gone into orthopedic surgery! Glad to see they were able to put things back together. I don't think I'll be going anywhere near 50 kph in the far future... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: Whoa that resembles my bird house project from Industrial Arts in grade 7. When you got power tools you find yourself no shortage of screws or lack of a sale at Home Depot! I should have gone into orthopedic surgery! Glad to see they were able to put things back together. I don't think I'll be going anywhere near 50 kph in the far future... Or ~30-kph, the speed at which@Rehab1 crashed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trya Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Rehab1 said: Thanks everyone for your thoughts! It means the world to me!!!! Unfortunately the fractures were much worse than what the physician expected. I just got home. I can only emphasize: Please be careful! @Rehab1hope the surgery went well even though it was complex, wish you the fastest recovery! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rehab1 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2018 I just finished drying my eyes after finding a brochure called Pathways in my hospital take home bag. The brochure titled: ‘Tissue Donation Thank You Letter Program’ contains a heartwarming message along with archive numbers that assists the host company in locating my donor’s identity. Simply put I have been given the unique opportunity to write a personalized letter to the anonymous donor’s family and express my heartfelt gratitude for their loved one’s gift. This accident has profoundly changed my life forever! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 26 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: Whoa that resembles my bird house project from Industrial Arts in grade 7. When you got power tools you find yourself no shortage of screws or lack of a sale at Home Depot! I should have gone into orthopedic surgery! That put a smile on my face! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethereal Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Good to see you did well. Definitely a complicated fracture but your ortho did an amazing job putting you back together. The next several months of recuperation and physical rehabilitation will be tough but hang in there. i will be rooting for your quick recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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