Hatchet Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I love the tall shell. I ride to a nice spot and have a seat, I ride seated when it's really windy, when my feet get tired. I actually use the seat far more than i thought I would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post houseofjob Posted April 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, Hatchet said: Whaaat? Now we have to wait for the 2030 wh version. Shouldn't the 2030 have been the first version or at least released at same time. Thought about this, and no, the way they usually do it makes good business sense: lower battery model first, then bigger battery next. Most riders don't need the extra capacity, and everyone, especially newbies, are looking for a lower price point. So, the majority of the KS18L sales will go to subsidize the the mold template for the thicker KS18X shell, which will sell comparatively less amount of units (albeit at a higher price point). Remember, plastic shell moulding (casting? could never find the official term...) costs an EUC company a lot of money that they need to recoup ROI. Plus, the lower capacity cells on a smaller battery unit cost less money per cell, hence more profit. My 2 cents, outside looking in. Edited April 8, 2018 by houseofjob 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchet Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Quelle Disappoint. I can't buy an 18L knowing a possibly superior version is coming soon™. I'll have to see what the larger battery version offers before laying down the cash for an 18L. I'm definitely a "largest battery you can afford" convert. I'll save and put it off a little longer for that extra battery. Even if I get a new KS18 model, I'll always keep my 18s because I really do love that seat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 3 hours ago, houseofjob said: Well..... I didn’t say all that ha! I selfishly want them to keep doing the tall design but upgrade it (handle motor disengage, integrated trolley, compartment for shopping(!)), with a possible redesign to possibly convert haters like you! Riding seated on a low EUC is miserable. I know I know) you are one of the unique ones who likes the tall top on it) I want to be tall when seated also, but hate the unnecessary bulkiness in general and when standing up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezzanine Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, Cloud said: I know I know) you are one of the unique ones who likes the tall top on it) I want to be tall when seated also, but hate the unnecessary bulkiness in general and when standing up I'm not sure that there's as much wasted space in the 18s shell as people assume. I guess there is on the sides, but the design choice to put the batteries where they are (vertically) seems to be an underrated aspect of the KS18's appeal once you actually ride it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseofjob Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 @mezzanine more wasted space please! My small groceries and tire repair kit need a glove compartment! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) I don't see why they can't design a low shell but incorporate a handle/seat/trolley that telescopes up out of the shell and locks into place. That way you have the best of both worlds without all the extra bulk of plastic. One other idea is to join the pedal supports up and over wheel to make it a strong support bracket onto which the chassis and seat/trolley assembly can be mounted/bolted to. Edited April 8, 2018 by Hunka Hunka Burning Love 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason McNeil Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 20 hours ago, houseofjob said: Yup, looks like the early pre-production KS18L's are rolling out, as they've maintained they are on target for an April launch. Alex, the owner of EcoDrift visited KS last week, the sample he tried was still the 67v board. I really hope KS call pull off the 18L on time, this time, especially in context that the V10F's release & first shipments taking place in just two days. KS also have to do something about the state of affairs with their App; three months after pushing out the half-baked release, there's still no workable/stable version for IOS. We're still advising Customers to use the 2 year old version which can at least unlock the Wheel in a predictable way. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Henley Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Jason McNeil said: KS also have to do something about the state of affairs with their App; three months after pushing out the half-baked release, there's still no workable/stable version for IOS. We're still advising Customers to use the 2 year old version which can at least unlock the Wheel in a predictable way. Couldn’t agree more . The iOS app is pure rubbish . Can’t get it to unlock my new wheel. No matter how many times I’ve tried ...it just won’t . I contacted @Flora Yuan yesterday and she told me they are still working to remedy the iOS issues . So in the meantime I bought a cheap android phone in ordered to be able to download the older version of the app. It’s frustrating to say the least . Great wheels . Shit app. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchet Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 If Inmotion's app is the bee's knees, it may shame GW & KS into breaking a $100 bill and hiring a coder. How does a Chinese company have crappy App software ..it's the easiest part! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiemoy Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 28 minutes ago, Jason McNeil said: Alex, the owner of EcoDrift visited KS last week, the sample he tried was still the 67v board. I really hope KS call pull off the 18L on time, this time, especially in context that the V10F's release & first shipments taking place in just two days. KS also have to do something about the state of affairs with their App; three months after pushing out the half-baked release, there's still no workable/stable version for IOS. We're still advising Customers to use the 2 year old version which can at least unlock the Wheel in a predictable way. It’s Chris. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiemoy Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 38 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: I don't see why they can't design a low shell but incorporate a handle/seat/trolley that telescopes up out of the shell and locks into place. That way you have the best of both worlds without all the extra bulk of plastic. One other idea is to join the pedal supports up and over wheel to make it a strong support bracket onto which the chassis and seat/trolley assembly can be mounted/bolted to. I don’t think it is possible to make a stable enough telescoping seat that can support 200+lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Where there's a will there's a way. This telescoping ladder supports 330 pounds? Bicycle seats have quick release clamps. https://m.sears.com/search=20 aluminum telescoping ladder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: I don't see why they can't design a low shell but incorporate a handle/seat/trolley that telescopes up out of the shell and locks into place. That way you have the best of both worlds without all the extra bulk of plastic. One other idea is to join the pedal supports up and over wheel to make it a strong support bracket onto which the chassis and seat/trolley assembly can be mounted/bolted to. Yes exactly. Actually both designs were implemented in unicycles about 3 years ago. They didn’t take off then, but perhaps they were ahead of their time. Doesn’t mean this can’t work in the future designs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiemoy Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 50 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: Where there's a will there's a way. This telescoping ladder supports 330 pounds? Bicycle seats have quick release clamps. https://m.sears.com/search=20 aluminum telescoping ladder I stand corrected... I own a brompton too... LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I'm no engineer, but I do know the Chinese are quite smart. I bet they can come up with something. Just give it some time I think. I just like to think outside of the box, and I don't mind trying to redesign the box in the process! Or how about this - just make a mounting point on the wheel so one can attach a small extendable seat like the monopod seat but smaller? People can then bring their seat or not. That might make things even simpler. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayRay Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 I'm no bully, but this guy is truly asking for trouble... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, RayRay said: I'm no bully, but this guy is truly asking for trouble... I was thinking the same thing... @Hunka Hunka Burning Love I think I finally figured out why I wasn’t helping that tortoise... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezzanine Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 I love the basic concept of the telescoping seat. Man, I wish they were around when I was younger and we'd go to Disney World as a family. Hours and hours spent standing in line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, Cloud said: I was thinking the same thing... @Hunka Hunka Burning Love I think I finally figured out why I wasn’t helping that tortoise... Hold the Voigt-Kampff machine for just one moment! Just had an idea... how about this... SELF-BALANCING TELESCOPIC SEAT AND POGO STICK! It can't be knocked over... Gyros... need to install some gyros and flywheels! Edited April 9, 2018 by Hunka Hunka Burning Love 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kael Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 9 hours ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: Hold the Voigt-Kampff machine for just one moment! Just had an idea... how about this... SELF-BALANCING TELESCOPIC SEAT AND POGO STICK! It can't be knocked over... Gyros... need to install some gyros and flywheels! Hah! I wonder how big the flywheels would have to be to say, keep you sitting upright on a one-legged chair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Unicyclist Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 7 hours ago, Kael said: Hah! I wonder how big the flywheels would have to be to say, keep you sitting upright on a one-legged chair. Let's just assume that it won't be "pocket sized" any more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchet Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 For the poor 18L ...the hype is not real. If they could make the tire 3" and stuff 1600 wh in the shell.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post houseofjob Posted April 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2018 Interesting, seems like the KS18L will be adopting the reversible Lenovo style charging standard for their first 84V wheel, the same standard we saw on the InMotion V5, and 2 ports to boot, love it! And might as well go dual USB ports as well! Dunno if that hack mudguard is gonna be standard, guess it's at least functional *smh 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ethereal Posted April 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2018 That KS18L looks sleek and streamlined. I am loving those dual USB ports as well. Hopefully that mudguard will not be standard because it kind of reminds me of Mr. Snuffleupagus. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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