BleepBloopBlop Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) With this much travel they did their best not making the wheel any taller by raising the battery boxes further. I doubt these preceived clearance issues are actually an issue. There is already 130mm kits for the master that work well but they do make the wheel super tall as well. Also they are expensive. https://houeuc.com/product/master-drop-131mm-shock-kit/ Edited January 17 by BleepBloopBlop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whalesmash Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 What surprises me more is that they have a design that mitigates this problem (albeit with some durability improvements desired) in the Extreme. The Extreme, S22, even the patton, lynx, and SS all have lower battery brackets that protrude as minimally as possible from beneath the pedals. Begode really only had to copy the homework so to speak, but instead they've gone with a completely new design likely to accommodate the extra series groups needed to reach 168V. I have a feeling this will be an oddly tall wheel that rides up past the rider's knees. That said, it might just be the fault of the renderings where begode is showing the wheel in a partially compressed state with the pedals in the highest position that might be making the protruding packs look worse than it is. This is ninging's master with the 130mm travel kit at full compression, and the lowest part of the hangers never goes past the rim. I will hold my judgement until more people get their hands on this thing for a detailed look 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizra6ot Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 hours ago, Whalesmash said: I have a feeling this will be an oddly tall wheel that rides up past the rider's knees. That said, it might just be the fault of the renderings where begode is showing the wheel in a partially compressed state with the pedals in the highest position that might be making the protruding packs look worse than it is. Not much more than the Ex30 ~1" difference according to the measurements in the video on the previous page (9:25min), I think the pedals are in the mid position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Is the ET MAX waterproof? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 53 minutes ago, Ronin Ryder said: Is the ET MAX waterproof? What's interesting is how it looks inside afterwards. 😅 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Frolic0415 Posted January 23 Popular Post Share Posted January 23 ^ Pointless Begode marketing, either show us a full disassembly after or a few days later see how the bearings are full of salt water lol Also didn't an A2 blow up in South Korea after it was submerged in water? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WheelGoodTime Posted January 23 Popular Post Share Posted January 23 7 minutes ago, Frolic0415 said: ^ Pointless Begode marketing, either show us a full disassembly after or a few days later see how the bearings are full of salt water lol Also didn't an A2 blow up in South Korea after it was submerged in water? My understanding is that it blew up after it was leaned against a wall injudiciously. Basically it continued to heat up as it was pushing against the wall. It should not have "blown" the way it did, but my guess is that it happened that way because the A2's motherboard compartment is sealed and waterproof/airtight, so the result was a bit more violent when it did blow. It's cool to see the Max riding in the water, but you're right, it's useless (and dare I say deceptive) marketing to show someone riding in the water without showing the results afterward with a full teardown, including the motor. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason McNeil Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 (edited) - Weight: @ 49.6kg - Dimensions: L667xW337xH870 - Pedal height positions: 35, 45, 60mm - Claiming effective range of 210mm for suspension travel - Max board temperature 90°C - 12 gauge wire from battery packs Don't invest to much confidence in these ET Max dyno result: it's a start, numbers provided by Begode. "Max Effective Vs RPM @ contant Voltage 150V, Torque 40 Nm Max. Speed 100km/h, RPM 1000, Input power 4950w, Output power 4150w; EFF. 84%. Max. Torque 145N·m, current 92A, not yet achieve extreme due to DC power only 100A Max. Max. Eff 75%, Contant RPM 580r/min." And the new 168V board: Not the best image of the magnets/air-gap, from this angle there's a large space in there. Edited January 23 by Jason McNeil 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UniVehje Posted January 23 Popular Post Share Posted January 23 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Jason McNeil said: Claiming effective range of 210mm for suspension travel More typical Begode stuff. Doesn’t matter how good the suspension is as long as they have the biggest number on spec sheet. This wheel is too heavy for off-road and jumping. Who needs that kind of travel on this wheel? Edited January 23 by UniVehje 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel1234 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 18 minutes ago, Jason McNeil said: Look more like standard magnets as c38 - smaller air gap between pole and magnet would increase efficiency, but is pain for tolerances and assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiiijojjo Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 When will they bring back the Msuper/RS line but without the plastic shells? Low pedal height, possibly without suspension, MSuper battery position, retractable trolley handle in the rear, big visible front and rear light strips, BT speaker no longer needed because of top speeds. That's what I'm waiting for... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kekafuch Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, xiiijojjo said: When will they bring back the Msuper/RS line but without the plastic shells? Low pedal height, possibly without suspension, MSuper battery position, retractable trolley handle in the rear, big visible front and rear light strips, BT speaker no longer needed because of top speeds. That's what I'm waiting for... ExtremeBull XM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frolic0415 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 9 hours ago, xiiijojjo said: When will they bring back the Msuper/RS line but without the plastic shells? Low pedal height, possibly without suspension, MSuper battery position, retractable trolley handle in the rear, big visible front and rear light strips, BT speaker no longer needed because of top speeds. That's what I'm waiting for... I wish the prototype 134v RS19 became a production unit, that was a sick little wheel. 7 hours ago, Kekafuch said: ExtremeBull XM Too bad the original Commander was/is a flop of a wheel and kills itself with overheating issues, would've been a great MS/EX/RS replacement if it was a reliable wheel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheelkoregro Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 26 minutes ago, null said: It seems it wasn't all that unreliable in the end, but the price really wasn't good enough compared to the Sherman.. At 1500$ we're talking though. God damnit I was looking to get an EB Xmax last year but was having the hardest time finding a dealer that had them in the US. Was looking to upgrade to a commander pro. But That price is looking really good right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frolic0415 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, null said: It seems it wasn't all that unreliable in the end, but the price really wasn't good enough compared to the Sherman.. At 1500$ we're talking though. From my, albeit limited, research many OG Commanders suffered heat problems are relied on aftermarket modding to run cool enough but then the wheel was completely open to water, dust and other elements making it barely usable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUC Custom Power-Pads Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 On 1/23/2024 at 3:13 PM, Jason McNeil said: Claiming effective range of 210mm for suspension travel This can't be true. Typo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince.Fab Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) Since the suspension is based off the Extreme, the effective travel should be around 110mm. looks like a typo Edited January 24 by Vince.Fab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCC Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 This is mainboard of ET max, what do you think? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUC Custom Power-Pads Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Vince.Fab said: Since the suspension is based off the Extreme, the effective travel should be around 110mm. looks like a typo Maybe 120mm instead of 210 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julianjc84 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 7 hours ago, YCC said: This is mainboard of ET max, what do you think? Based on Begodes history and I hope I am wrong. Connector. can't find any details on them. GD HUAYUE HY110 2+4F maybe that's a 6 pin connector? Looks like the right size for a custom MOLEX. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick McCutcheon Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 On 1/24/2024 at 8:20 AM, YCC said: This is mainboard of ET max, what do you think? It looks like the charge board now has its own firmware, evidenced by the MCU on the PCB right above the lower left battery connector. It can be flashed using that 5-pin port right beneath the MCU, but not via the app, unless they have a data link between the charge board and main board somehow. This is similar to how the DC-DC board on the later revisions of 100V wheels had its own MCU and firmware, I actually worked with Begode once to fix the Monster Pro brake light issue (as shipped, the brake light only got brighter when braking while riding backwards, I don't think this was ever fixed before it was discontinued), we needed to use that 5-pin port to update the DC-DC board's firmware as that's where the LED pattern handling code lived. If Begode ever does release a new firmware for the charge board, you'd probably need to get an update chip shipped to you, similar to how we used to have to do things with the Sherman. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jason McNeil Posted January 28 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 28 (edited) Some updated pics of the ET Max in the flesh. Begode has a limited production run of 40x of these ready to go early next week, before the CNY Feb shutdown. They've accommodated my request for a tubeless compatible rim, applying a heat-treated paint, & there's another special upgrade that will be announced closer to shipping. Edited January 28 by Jason McNeil 9 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 That wheel doesn't look bad at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhpr262 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 TBQH I'm not a great fan of the Jawa sandcrawler looks, with the overhanging front, of the newer batch of wheels like the Inmotion V14 and this one... but after all as long as I am standig on it I dont see the wheel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jason McNeil Posted January 31 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 31 (edited) UPDATE: the 40x were completed before CNY shutdown, Begode very generously provided 10x to our allocation. One of these is getting flown in as demo/Reviewer Wheel, shipped directly to Hsiang/Ronin in NYC next week, provided there's no associated delays with CNY, there normally is.... They decided to scrap the 50GB/E option, i.e. exclusively available with the 50S packs for the power requirements of the Wheel. For uniformity of aesthetic, the tubeless motor rims will be painted in a glossly black finish. First large-scale production scheduled to complete on March 15th + the 1 month for all the intermediary steps in getting the slow-boat to the other side of the Pacific. Edited January 31 by Jason McNeil 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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