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you dont have to be superstitious. Its like when thinking about that something can fail. You try your hardest not to. But always somehow fail. youre usually better off not thinking about that you didnt fail yet.. Thats why i typed this comment.

On ‎5‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 12:49 PM, Shad0z said:

but dont "wait" for your first crash. some have been lucky not crashing for 3000km. dont wait for your first crash. just enjoy :) 

 

 

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2 hours ago, mezzanine said:

It's funny, I'm the least superstitious person you'll meet, but even I would never post something about how I've not fallen off my wheel.  :)

Im not superstitious at all. There were some factors involved which were not there every other time ive ridden. Sunglasses on in low light, and i was following my girl on her bike. I guess it was too much for me. And i hit the deck like a mear mortal. At least i feel like we’ve got more in common now

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On ‎5‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 2:44 PM, Marty Backe said:

Some of my worst injuries occurred under 5-mph. I think you're operating under a false sense of security. But it seems most of us need to get injured before climbing on the safety bandwagon. I hope your first lessons-learned injury won't be too severe.

At under 5mph I wonder how much all your safety gear helped during those ultra low speed falls.  And I wonder how much experience you had with sports that require balance before you started into the EUC hobby.  I think age makes a big difference too.  I cannot imagine falling off my EUC at 4mph in the locations where I ride and sustaining my worst injuries.  We're talking about falling over at walking speed. It would have to be a very unlucky set of circumstances to do major damage.

I could break my back climbing the 3 small steps at my front porch but I'm not going to start wearing a helmet and back protector to pop to my mailbox every day because there's a very small chance of injury climbing those steps.  And I'm saying this as someone who has had skiing, snowboarding, motocross racing, power-kiting, push-bike, electric skateboard and road motorcycle accidents.  I think when I am your age I too will be fully kitted out with knee-pads, helmet, wrist guards and that little cape you wear at the back of your helmet to protect you from sun damage.  We get more fragile as we get older and that's something to consider when doing any sport that involves the risk of impact.  I already feel much less robust than when I was 19.  If I get an EUC that cruises above 20kph or just any kind of Gotway, I'm going to be wearing some gear.  But when riding my current EUC which cannot keep up with joggers, away from traffic, I feel ok without gear on.  

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1 hour ago, Marty Backe said:

 

I really don't think age or fitness has anything to do with possible injuries.

 

If that's truly what you think then perhaps you should think a little more about it.  I can assure you that when a 14 year-old falls off a park bench onto some firm grass the risk of breaking bones, puncturing a lung or sustaining internal bleeding is much less than when an 87 year old does it.  Likewise, when a 50 year-old falls off a skateboard there's a substantially higher risk of injury than when an 18 year-old falls in exactly the same way.  When people are young they are more flexible, more supple, less brittle and heal faster than when they are 40, 50, 60, 70 years old.

Your examples of sustaining your worst injuries at sub 5mph are under quite particular circumstances.  You were still learning, you were riding a low power, less reliable EUC and you were hopping off or onto a curb.  When I was learning I fell off (or jumped off) at low speed many times.  I did not ever feel in danger of any injuries that would cause me tears.  The speed was just too low for me to worry about breaking a leg or losing teeth.  Now that I have a year under my belt and something like a decade of e-boarding behind me I am still ultra careful.  I have no desire to do tricks or ride backwards.  I never forget that my wheel could cut out.  In some of your videos you ride close to and past pedestrians in a way that I personally think is too close and not careful enough.  I have seen you act less considerate of others than I would be in the same environment.  I'm not saying you ride like a maniac (you absolutely don't) but you take more risks with other people's safety and comfort than I do, in my opinion.  I think it's hypocritical to be shaming me for not gearing up when I see videos of you riding around populated areas in shorts and a T-shirt - no knee pads, no wrist guards, no helmet, going forwards at speeds higher than I can go and even riding backwards, which adds further risk.

I'm sure you wear gear when you ride the Monster but I would hazard a guess that I would come out less hurt falling off my 18kph EUC without safety gear on than you would when falling off your 55kph Monster with safety gear on.  By choosing a much faster wheel you are already taking on more risk, helmet or not. 

I'm at risk when jogging through forest trails because I may trip over a tree root and fly head first into a sign post or tree trunk.  Still, I do not jog in a helmet and knee pads.  We take calculated risks every day we get out of bed.  One has to find a balance between safety, practicality and comfort in everything one does.  If we hurt ourselves, that's one thing.  But the more important thing is to not put others at risk, as they have not chosen to take the risk of injury at our doing.

 

 

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Age definitely makes it easier to get injured and harder to heal. Levels of hormones like HGH and testosterone go down from about age 30. HGH helps a lot with healing, and testosterone helps muscle mass. 

I went to another orthopedic surgeon yesterday to get a second opinion on my knee. He told me that my ACL isn't totally torn, the other doctor and the radiologist didn't see that. He did say that the ACL gets weaker and thinner with age which makes it easier to tear. The thing is, most people aren't doing crazy sports like EUC riding in their 50s and 60s. By this age they mostly do joint replacements for people like runners who have pounded down their joints to nothing. My physical therapy place is about a 50/50 mix of young people recovering from sports injuries and old people recovering from joint replacements. So I'm the odd one out! It's funny to watch their expressions when they ask "how did you get hurt" and I tell them I fell off an electric unicycle.

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3 hours ago, WARPed1701D said:

It's unfortunate that modern medicine cheats Darwin of his prize. I've often thought there should be a three strike rule at ER. First injury from stupidity and we patch you up for and send you home the best we can going you learn from your mistakes. Second time for the same kind of stupid injury we send you home with some bits still hanging off. Leave you a nice reminder not to be an idiot again. Third time...out of luck. You are on your own. Maybe Darwin gets his prize and the gene pool gets cleaned up a bit.

As an ex motorcycle rider I used to get angry at all the riders around here in shorts, t shirt, and flipflops. No helmet. Now I just let it go and hope they don't get too procreate before their eventual fall. 

It's not illegal to be stupid but it's always expensive and/or painful... :whistling:

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Girlfriend, who's a cyclist and works for a bike manufacturer, laughed at me last night when I suggested getting a full-face helmet for use with a new wheel that can do 30mph. Said she wouldn't be seen dead with me if I wore one; needless to say I felt a bit upset! Cue a debate on why cyclists don't wear full-face helmets except occasionally mountain biking and how supposedly cycling is just as dangerous as unicycling when hitting potholes. 

I'm thinking it prudent to invest in some kind of knee and elbow pads, for trickier rides. Hopefully something discreet, though. You never know when a nasty crash is coming, but I do admit, I got off relatively well until this winter when I had two accidents within a relatively short time frame. Stupid damp weather.

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19 minutes ago, Kael said:

Girlfriend, who's a cyclist and works for a bike manufacturer, laughed at me last night when I suggested getting a full-face helmet for use with a new wheel that can do 30mph. Said she wouldn't be seen dead with me if I wore one; needless to say I felt a bit upset! Cue a debate on why cyclists don't wear full-face helmets except occasionally mountain biking and how supposedly cycling is just as dangerous as unicycling when hitting potholes. 

You want me to send her the pictures of my girlfriend's chin being sewed up in E.R after she face planted on her race bicycle?

And how many cyclists can attain a cruising speed of 28 mph, no matter if it is uphill or downhill? Add to that the fact that a riding bicycle is inherently stable (try launching one at 30mph and look how far it gets without falling over. Now do the same with your euc when it is turned off) and an euc is inherently unstable (well it is very stable, until something goes wrong, and all of the sudden it becomes the complete opposite, no in between).

Fact is that (race) bike riders are inherently underprotected for the sport they exercise. Try crashing your bike at 30 mph and tell me how easy it was to jump off ... The thing is they are much less likely to crash than euc riders, hence the lack of protection they wear (remember all those discussions in the 80's about mandatory helmets in prof. cycling races. Lots of pro riders claimed it would be impossible because of the heat ... and now they all wear them).

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