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@houseofjob Wow, great info. Now if you can say where the ACM, MCM, msuper have their names from... @Herbas Good points. It can make sense as a model. But I wonder if it would make business sense.

Not bad... but needs more suka and blyat and such gopnikisms This one is nice, too:

Did the motor cables short, or did the boards blow? The MSX was supposed to be super-robust. How can this happen with just a bit of heavier riders and a quite short if steep hill?

They only replaced their 3200mAh battery cells with 3500mAh ones, thus the higher 520Wh capacity. Probably they deliberately didn't change anything that would have required bigger changes (= costly in prouction) to the wheel (e.g. a new shell with more space for batteries). They just use better components (motor, board, battery cells, pedals, ...) wherever possible without changing anything "big". So there's no more space for more battery in their existing V8(F) design. Also a V8F+ would come close to the V10. So I would not expect a V8F+ to ever exist. It makes very little sense. It would need quite some re-engineering (as opposed to just swapping in better parts like in the V8F) and it would compete with the V10 which already exists.

I believe that is a recording of a livestream, and they just waited for a few more viewers I guess. Can't blame @Jeffrey Scott Will for that

Thanks, yes. The info that the cells don't fit the MSX was obviously wrong.

The V8 isn't motor-limited. It's battery limited. 2400W on a nominal 800W motor should be doable for a short time (which is all that may be needed to prevent overpowering the wheel), so 3p vs 2p really is a 50% improvement in available power/safety from overleaning. But something else must be better with the V8F (battery cells? board firmware?) or they couldn't increase the speed with it still being a 2p wheel, I think.

The unexpected change to bigger battery cells might mean an upgraded V10F+ with 1036Wh (instead of 950Wh) could be coming. Maybe it will have 5kph more speed, too? To make it more equal to the Tesla or just add a decisive speed improvement.

I sure hope a 35kph 2p wheel won't be a problem, going by the V8

It's not in the Gotway app. The wheel shows up as a generic Bluetooth speaker in your phone's Bluetooth menu.

Oh wow the tire is bigger (wider)!

Quote from this thread: Looks like it will be 480Wh like the V8. 16S has 840Wh.

It just depends very strongly on your speed. The 20Wh/km (32Wh/mile) is a formal number I get when I go <30kph (speed beep at 30) on my ACM. I upped that to 35kph (22mph) and suddenly it's easily 25Wh/km (40Wh/mile). Just a few kph more will eat you battery like crazy. Wind resistance is a b**ch. If I recall correctly, @Hunka Hunka Burning Love got like 20km (13 miles!) on his 1000Wh Tesla by going top speed all the time. Usually 1000Wh shouild be good for 50km/30 miles! But that's at <30kph. So any precise number is pretty much worthless, as Marty says. Way too much variation from different speeds. So test it yourself, or just give yourself a big margin in battery size if you wonder if you can do a certain distance. No You get pretty much exactly the same range from all wheels if your speed and rider weight (and all other conditions... temperatures alone can make a 20% difference between summer and winter) are the same. No matter the model, tire size, ... That is a big "if", though, you won't ride the same on an mten3 or MSX. Two exceptions I know of: At very high speeds (around 50kph) reportedly 100V wheels are getting notably more efficient compared to their 84V counterparts. The 16X and 18XL get better range because they run down the battery more (16X) and even more (18XL) than the other wheels. All other (possible) differences between wheels seem to be so small that they drown in the noise of different riding conditions. The 25Wh/km (or whatever) is just a number without connection to reality. Just stated capacity divided by range. Your actual power usage is different anyways because you don't run the battery down to 0%. More like 30% (becomes 15% with voltage drop, on Gotways that's where the speed beeps start). It's just for doing a quick estimate of the range of a given battery size. The main benefit here is not a realistic or guaranteed number, but to debunk the absurd manufacturer range promises right away.

Assume 20-25Wh/km (32-40Wh/mile) as a realistic estimate (~80kg/~180lbs rider) for working out the ranges of all battery sizes for these faster wheels where you average maybe 40kph/25mph. So for 1845Wh that gives 74-92 km (45-57 miles) as a baseline estimate. Of course you can blow through it much faster by going top speed, or double the range by going really slow. It all depends on how fast you ride.

Sounds like the perfect wheel for this. Not too bulky, and most importantly fast enough so you won't get annoyed by the speed (and comfort) limitation like you would with a slower, smaller wheel.

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For 11-12km you need a fast wheel, otherwise the commute will be frustratingly long and you will feel inhibited after a few days of repeating the route. I'd go for an MCM5 at least, but really for a "full" 16 or 18 incher. So I don't think there's a good carryable wheel for that kind of longer commute, just get a regular EUC and take it with you on the train, with helmet and gear and all. The i5 is perfect if you can replace a 30 minute walk or 20 minute bus ride (waiting time included) with an 8-10 minute relaxing and fun, fresh air, instant EUC ride. So maybe 3km at most I'd say (that's already pushing it). Longer and you want more speed. 10 km is looooooooooooong!

That's exactly what the i5 is for. I sometimes find myself wanting one because it's the only wheel you could pack into a regular backpack (or just carry like a bag) and not be bothered by the weight and size of it. So you can just take it with you without second thoughts where you would usually never take a EUC. It's hard to describe how nice and pleasant it is to simply carry the i5 by its handle, as opposed to the bulky and heavy (but the wide shape is the real problem) other wheels. It's just like a little briefcase - so sweet and feels weightless, despite the non-neglegible 8kg of weight. And 245Wh still gives you an easy 10km of range. It's perfect for getting to a train station, having the wheel with you the entire day while barely noticing it, and then getting back home, for example. Yes, it's a niche wheel and certainly not an allrounder standard wheel, but it really is so enjoyable to carry. I wasn't too convinced by the concept other than "hehe, cool" until I got to try one. Somehow it's just nice. Usually, you judge wheels by how nice they are to ride, but this one really shines by how nice it is while not riding it. And the ride itself is good enough for a few fun and surprisingly useful kilometers of getting from A to B.

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If it's not the axle nuts, it might be: Something (like a wire) stuck inside the wheel well. Fold a few pieces of kitchen roll, wrap it around the tire, and use it to scrub the wheel well (while the wheel is off! Otherwise a blocked tire might result in a board blowing up) so nothing is in there. Remove both side panels and check the shell and all plastic parts for cracks or any spot where it moves but shouldn't.

Wow! Also we were told the 21700s don't fit in the MSX (as opposed to the Nikola). Apparently they do. Confusing...

A good estimate for a fast wheel like the Nikola is 20-25Wh/km (32 - 40Wh/mile). That would be about 30-40 miles typical range. It really depends on your speed (also your weight, but speed makes a huge difference).

You might have that problem. The beginning of May was just the critical period and yours is from then. Get a new board. Especially if you already have strange symptoms. Doesn't matter exactly why, make sure your wheel is sound!

The good thing about ewheels being swamped with emails and support: they'll just do a quick an dirty solution. Free board