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  1. Okay let’s face it... for us hard core riders out there it’s been a fight between the MSX and the Z10 though personally I think it’s a superior wheel even without the detailed experience of the z10 I’ve had to make quite a few customizations to my wheel. share what you’ve done and perhaps it would inspire me and others! Here’s a list of things I’ve done: 1. Put ACM padding on my MSX 2.lowered pedal angles 3.outdoor hiking light mounted by Velcro 4.el wire(three strips u see in the pic) to be visible from the side 5. Mud guard 6. Slime into inner tube 7.put more grip tape as the ones on the pedal were wearing out.
  2. Hi, It started somewhere here, it was just improvement to make WheelLog working with Inmotion. But then I was asked about some improvements for KingSong and Gotway as well. So I think it is time to move it here. Improvements regarding the version from the market (not all, I don't remember all, but you can read previous topic about changes if interested): - Inmotion support, including wheel setting control (tested, work fine with V8, work not bad with others), extended logs - KingSong: negative current, correct start with FW 1.25, wheel setting control (untested) - Gotway: some minor fixes, wheel setting control (partially tested) - Top speed reset from menu - User trip counter (can be reset from menu, not affected to wheel or app shutdown) Known issues: - Xiaomi devices may often lose connection with Inmotion (problem in Xiaomi Bluetooth implementation) Latest version in PlayMarket
  3. I spent today 3D modeling mounts for this aliexpress trolleyhandle to be used on my Monster. Designed to be minimalistic and really sturdy! Because of the amount of stress these screws would experience from the weight of the wheel, i designed it so the brackets themself would support it and take care of the sideways loads, screws only handle pull forces. The mounts lock around at the rear and clamps a hold, trolley handle slides into it, clamps in place at the top and is secured at the bottom with a screw. When ordering this handle it comes with two brackets already, but they dont fit the wheel, remove the both, but reuse the screws for the bottom one. Tomorrow i will share photos or video on how sturdy this is. For the trolley handle : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Women-handbags-Circle-shoulder-bags-vintage-purses-messenger-bags-Round-clock-bags-bolsa-clutch-feminina-bag/32470381929.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.43be4c4dYhwly5 order now as theres lower price, the brackets i will start selling really soon and put up on my website. cheap, but strong.
  4. Hello readers and riders! I apologize for my English, if it has any errors. First of all, let me introduce myself: My name is Ilya, I'm the iOS Developer since 2009. Also I have Ninebot One E since April 2015. Then I decided to combine these skills into my new app - DarknessBot. The application is available only for iOS 9.0 and higher. Ninebot haven't presented any official APIs yet, so I cooperated with the GyroMetrics developer - Paco Gorina (special thanks for helping with Ninebot BLE protocol) The application from the active EUC owners! It supports the following models: ► Ninebot One (C, C+, E, E+, P) ► Inmotion (V3, V3C, V3S, V3Pro, V5, V5+, V5F, V8, R1, R1N, R1S, R1S, R1T, R1AP, R1CF, R1EX, R2, R2N, R2S, R2EX, L6) ► Gotway (MCM2, MCM4, ACM, MSuper V1/V2/V3, Monster) ► KingSong (14, 16, 18) Features: ◉ Modify tiled interface that you can customize ◉ Displaying all available metrics through Bluetooth LE: ► Current speed ► Maximum speed ► Total mileage ► Remaining mileage (depending of rider's weight, the battery charging cycles, and weather conditions) ► Total runtime ► Battery level ► Temperature of the controller (not for all models) ► Power ► Voltage ► Longitudinal and transverse tilt (not for all models) ◉ Logging and displaying graphs of metrics (up to a month) ◉ Record video from a camera with a sensor display ◉ Changing the riding mode (not for all models) ◉ Changing maximum speed (experimental) ◉ Changing the maximum speed on limited mode (experimental) ◉ Changing lock mode (not for all models) ◉ Changing limited speed mode (not for all models) ◉ Compass and weather forecast ◉ Apple Watch support ◉ HealthKit Integration What next: ◉ One more thing Beta test 1.2 ◉ Support Ninebot One A1/S2 Application for free, but it has a few paid functions. So I provide 40 promocodes for this forum. Promocodes Download from Appstore
  5. And now it seems Gotway is the last of the Big 4 EUC companies near jumping on the scooter bandwagon with this DTen(?) Like most of these metoo scooters, this thing kinda looks like a repackage Currus RS11, with it's 3 pole handlebar post. Gotway DTen FB Post CURRUS RS-11
  6. Last updated: 13 May 2019 Dear fellow riders, as some of you may already know, I'm the guy responsible for latest WheelLog development This happened, however, during the development of the application to record the route together with the wheel parameters. This application (website) is now publicly and freely available to any of you here - https://euc.world - I named it "World of electric unicycles" I have chosen WheelLog as a base app that will source location & wheel data. I added some features that are very useful during your ride. In particular voice announcements and alarms. Really, you should try speed alerts! Wind noise will no longer be an issue to hear that you exceeded your preset speed. I also added other languages, thanks to @koto , @ArqFG, @andress, @George Iliev, @Lefteris and @fabio70mi. Currently WheelLog supports English, Polish, French, Spanish, Czech, Bulgarian, Greek and Italian languages. By the way, it turned out that more features could be added and improved, and that's how I - slightly unintentionally - became current WheelLog developer WORLD OF ELECTRIC UNICYCLES - DOCUMENT AND SHARE YOUR EUC RIDES Now the https://euc.world service is working quite good, so it's time to announce it's availability for the whole EUC community. Initially I've made it for myself, but soon realized that it may be very useful for other riders. It's my hobby project and it's completely free. It allows you to record your rides including your wheel live data. By default, saved routes are not visible to others. You can also share them with others by sending them a link. You can also make some routes available to everyone, so they will be visible on the main page. Euc.world is a great and free alternative to Endomondo or Strava, as it allows you to document your rides along with detailed wheel telemetry (wheel speed, battery charge, voltage, current, power etc.). You don't need WheelLog to be connected with your wheel to record your rides. In this case wheel data won't be recorded along your track - that's the only limitation. So if your wheel isn't supported yet, you can still map your rides. You can even add photos to your ride. I'll be happy to read your opinions, feedback and feature requests. Of course this website is still under development and now I'm working hard on wheel data visualisation. I think it will be finally working near the end of this week. Currently, wheel speed (black thin line) is overlayed on lcoation (GPS) speed. King Song users are advised to check if their wheel doesn't inflate the speed For example, KS-18L/XL inflates speed reading by about 20%. With time, I'll add more features and fix any bugs I'll be aware of. HOW TO START USING EUC.WORLD? If you already have installed WheelLog from Google Play store, uninstall it first. Download and install WheelLog from this link - https://euc.world/getwheellog Sing up with https://euc.world to create account and get your API key. Enter your API key into corresponding field in WheelLog live map settings in exact form. Small and large caps matters. Setup other WheelLog options according to your preferences. Start riding! Last, but not least - don't forget to give me some feedback so I can push this project in right direction. Note - you don't need euc.world account to just use newest WheelLog and benefit from other features. However I encourage you to at least try. If you think that you need some features, just let me know. I struggle to make this service fit EUCists nedds as much as possible. I'd kindly ask you for one thing... If you are going on an interesting route, think about making it visible to everyone. The idea that guided me when I created this website was to show other people interesting places where you can get on an electric unicycle. So if it doesn't affect your privacy, think about recording some routes in public mode. Add interesting photos, let others see the beauty of the places where you ride on one wheel. This is one of ways we can popularize EUCs. We can show that EUC riders are everywhere! And remember - you can also change visibility. Just log to your account, enter the tour you would like to edit and from "Tour" menu select desired visibility. So you can make the tour hidden or reverse - one of your beatutiful private tours make visible to everyone! WHEELLOG'S FUTURE WheelLog is a great application that's worth to maintain and improve. Now as I became a WheelLog active developer, I plan to add support for other wheels. WheelLog is lacking Ninebot support (wheels other than Z6/Z8/Z10). I already added support for Ninebot One S2 and plan to make other Ninebot wheels to be supported by WheelLog and I hope it will be done soon. Of course I also plan to add wheel sother than Ninebot. You can always find latest WheelLog version for download here: https://euc.world/getwheellog It will also be available in Google Play store soon, so installation and updating will be much easier. PLEASE, CONSIDER SUPPORTING MY EFFORTS As I wrote above, I plan to add more wheels (and other devices, like e-scooters etc.) to the WheelLog. I'll also review already supported wheels to check if I could add new features. It's my hobby. It's fun and pleasure so I can spare some limited amounts of my financial resources for WheelLog development and euc.world running, but only to pay for most important expenses. Any support from euc.world and/or WheelLog users will greatly help me with both euc.world and WheelLog development, especially in regard to adding new features and keep this application constantly developed. If you want to learn more, please visit https://euc.world/supportme Thank you in advance!
  7. Gotway Msx 100v 1230 On Ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gotway-Msx-100v-1230/362583453381?
  8. Hey everyone! I joined the forum recently and I was wondering if anyone would be interested in trading their Ninebot Z10 for a Gotway Tesla 84V (With cash on top on my part). I feel it's time for me to experience a different ride and continue onward! I've been looking into only trading locally, I live between LA and SD in California (I live in Temecula). I would ship but I'm not really confident in myself doing so. Now for me to lay out the details on the wheel, overall the Wheel is in decent shape! I am the 2nd owner of the wheel, haven't crashed it once (Though I cant say for the original owner, though I'm sure he did crash). The exterior of the shell is pretty much fine, no damage but the interior is a bit messed up due to the previous owner gluing some stuff together rather than using the original screws (Not sure why, though I went in and fixed some of it by replacing the stuff myself). None of this affects the ride! Just thought it would be important info to know. The Rim also has a dent in it (Previous owner I assume crashed and dented it) Its noticeable but not bad and does not affect the ride at all. The ride itself is perfect, I never had any problems with it and I ride it daily. It has about 2,000 Miles on it! Overall I'm much only interested in trading it for a Ninebot Z10 (With cash on my side) though if that doesn't happen I would be happy to discuss with some one who wants to buy it. Just let me know - Alex
  9. First I will like to say thanks to all the people that post and create this forum, is really the best source of information related to electric unicycles and a great help. I enter in this unicycle world by chance, as my first unicycle was a present from a friend, I never imagine before that these tinny things can be such convenient and fun way of transportation as they are. Just to put this review on context my previous is experience is 1800km on a Ninebot C (with a 320Wh battery) and I have ridden several other unicycles but just for a short period of time (V5D, V8, Monster etc.) Well going to what matters, how is the MCM5 in one word? AMAZING Is relatively light (17kg?) has great acceleration, enough power to go around 40km/h, integrated handle to carry it and lift off power button to go up or down stairs without turning it off. My unit has a battery of 650Wh so you get a real range of 25-30km on flat terrain without concerning much about the speed. My typical riding is divided in 2: - Downtown Shanghai, lots of traffic lights, bikes, electric scooters etc., many start and stops - Industrial areas: long straights with smooth surfaces where you can go flat out Also I carry it every day on the high speed train, so the integrated handle and lift power button was a must. My cruising speed is around 32/34kmh, the MCM5 feels confortable at this speeds as soon as there are no many bumps on the terrain (remind is a 14 inch wheel) and it has enough power reserve at these speed to make and overtake (I have ridden it up to 40kmh) or go over a bump. I know is capable of more speed but I think is too on the limit and a crash at that speeds won't be fun... Acceleration of the line is great so you can overtake almost all the electric scooter/bikes etc. when starting from a traffic line (really convenient in China). It has integrated light on the front that is 100% necessary at night but I wish it will be a little more powerful. Gotway app it did not even connect to the wheel but WheelLog is simple and really convenient to use. If I want to find some negative points to the wheel will be firstly the charger, 84V and 1.5A is really not something reasonable even for a 650Wh battery (I get a Rockwheel 84V 3A), light is not as powerful as I will like and there is not rear light (only LED in the top arch of the wheel). USB charger also only works with the wheel on and general build quality can improve (handle specially). I will 100% recommend this wheel as a commuter, is great on the city (if the surfaces you ride are not full of bumps or holes), easy to carry and tons of fun. Not recommended for a beginner, off roading or long routes. Probably before the end of the year I will hit 2000km so I plan to update the review then.
  10. In great condition just found it too much for me to handle, has three batteries in it, 2400 watts, 84 volts great condition, Plastics were replaced with purple used to be red. Has selectable fast charger. Wheel has about 788 miles on it mostly from previous owner I personally have only put on about 7 miles, I am used to a lighter easier to maneuver wheel like the in-motion V8. No issues with this wheel, rides perfect and smooth. Like anybody would like to get as much as I could for it to buy another wheel, send me your offer must at least be over $2,000, may also consider cash and possible trade me for what you have
  11. Hello My name is Carl Irjala and I live here in the city of Kotka, which is near the Russian border. If you allow, I wish to start writing to you about my experiences as a brand new electric unicyclist. I'm a soaring pilot with several hundred landings behind me. So when I saw a video on YouTube that told that riding an EUC feels like flying I became instantly interested about it. So my first topic is about the experience of buying my first EUC and the learning process. The EUC brand is here in Finland so new that I had to search abroad to get reasonable information about it. My mother tongue is Swedish and Finnish. In those languages there is not enough information that would make me to buy an EUC. Luckily, I found this forum and the members' YouTube videos. Lots of sellers at the Internet do not communicates in English, so I was totaly dependent on the information you provide in this forum. Another matter that affected the choice of my first EUC was transport and tax costs. I have bought a lot of products directly from America and China, but sometimes the goods come with a shipping / duty surcharge that can be up to one hundred percent of the value of the product and sometimes not. So this makes the purchase a little risky. I found only one seller who provided clear information about shipping and taxation charges to Finland. After payment, it only took five days to get home the product from Poland (see image files). So in full, the whole process was quite easy. My next post will be a video about learning to ride the EUC. In that video you will see a whole new method how to do it. So, stay tuned on this topic. Kind regards Carl
  12. Thanks to Gotway, they allowed me to share it all with the community. need a part repaired or modded? just edit and print! This is all the files, Shell, panels,front,back,top panels.. Enjoy https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3519413
  13. I've taken all the great worldly advice and experiences on here and plumped to make the Gotway Tesla my weapon of choice. However looking on the different seller sites I'm now confused by the number of versions ood this wheel. In this case I'm specifically talking about revisions to the model not the power variants. In this example I'm looking at the 84v 1020wh variant. Figured this topic might also help some others in their journey. So can someone confirm how many versions/ revisions of this wheel exist? Amd what those revisions are. @Marty Backe i suspect you'll be a great knowledge source for this. As a starter what I have seen (not for accuracy): Month? 2017 - Tesla original rev1: dodgy electrics and all that other scary QC stuff Month? 2017 - Tesla rev1.1: revised mainboard Month? 2018 - Tesla rev2: 1020wh version introduced, black plastic shell changed to carbon fibre look all over. Month? 2019 - Tesla rev3: ???? this is listed on Ali by but I don't know what is different (see below). Not sure the battery source might be it??? 2019 NEW GOTWAY Tesla Detailed parameters motor:2000W battery:850WH/1020WH battert life:60-80km battery model:NCR18650PF/NCR18650GA max speed:55km/h+ No load speed: 68km/h max load:120kg max slope:25°(90kg test) weight:about 19kg Pedal ground height:15cm wheel:16inch Body size:420mm*200*563mm Speed alarm: 1 level alarm, 30km/h, two alarm, 35km/h, three alarm, 80% power alarm Also to just confirm am I right in saying that no version has a wheel cut off sensor for when you lift it (like the kingsong/inmotions)? Kind of annoying if so since they have the nice carry handle. Would be great to understand jusy what i need to check when i buy/ receive mine.
  14. I have a programmable charger from canada, "cycle satiator" can i solder an xt60 plug to it, program to charge from the low 29v upto 84v at 0.1amps? is that a safe workaround to revive it?
  15. Hello folks. So I've been taking my new MSX out for a few rides a week ever since winter started trending away and the roads got more and more bare. I've had this wheel since November, just itching to start riding it. However, I noticed recently as I was adjusting my mudflap, that the wheel isn't perfectly centered. There's not a huge amount of clearance between the tyre and the part of the mudflap that slides onto the chassis. I could always just be hypervigilant, and my worries are unfounded, but I'd like to hear from any of you and what you think about it. The "misalignment" is more or less not visible at all from the front end of the wheel. My biggest worry is that the wheel would be off balance and causing me to make bad standing habits while riding it.
  16. Kann man sowas mit einem DC-DC Konvertor realisieren??
  17. For the last few months, my ACM was being a spaz....lol. When starting or stoping it would begin to vibrate pretty badly, but once at normal cruising speed it would operate normally. This would plague me for a whole 3 months and I checked the board to see if it was secure, checked all electronics, checked the axle nuts for looseness....nothin came up. I then decided to look really closely at the six screws (five on the side with no control board) that secure the case to the pedal hanger, they were quite loose but didn't appear that way. I grabbed some lock-tite and proceeded to tighten all of them up. Viola!!!!! It runs like new!! No vibration....yay all is once again well in the land of riding😊😊. Hope this post may help someone that is having similar issues with their wheel. Cheers!!
  18. GyroMetrics is a free application for logging data and controlling an EUC in a device independent way. See for an introduction. 9BMetrics worked with Ninebot and now it works with Ninebot, Gotway, Kingsong and InMotion. As I don't have all the wheels some support is better than others and all feedback is welcome. The application also uses the AppleWatch if available for showing information, starting/stopping recording and locking/unlocking the wheel or sounding the horn (in Kingsong), @Chriull has devloppend some GNUPLOT scripts for presenting the information which are vailable here. Also some Python generic scripts are available at following posts. First Gyrometrics version is 2.5 which has the following differences with 9BMetrics 2.4: - For Ninebot Users You may enable or disable speed limit from settings while connected You may lock / unlock wheel when connected From the watch you may lock / unlock the weel by doing hard press and selectiong the option in the menu - For KingSong Users Now horn works from the watch. Just a double tap in the center field and should play it - For InMotion Users (all beta features, sorry my accesibility is rare) Disabled serial number checking. Should connect with V8 Lock / Unlock may or may not work as explained for Ninebot Users - For everybody Python Scripts that work in Pythonista and in normal desktop environments (They work in the iPhone ) for plotting data directly from new .9bz archives. Will put them in the GyroMetrics topic Working in new features : Current visible in the watch, color shows direction Battery color will change to orange in phone and watch if battery level > 90% and current is < 0 Other features : Incremental saving - So if application crashes ypu don't loose all data Autocalibration of distance and speed
  19. Guys, is there a way to add "Total Wh drained from the battery" with an option to reset it after a recharge? What do you think? This way we can see actually how many Wh juice is giving our battery.
  20. I just created a neat Arduino library to interface EUCs via Bluetooth or directly via the tx/rx connection of the motherboards. I have tested it with several older Gotway EUCs and I will try to add support for the newer Gotway protocol and also for the older King Song protocol. You can download the library on Github: https://github.com/T-vK/Electric-Unicycle-Interface I mainly wrote this for two main reasons: I wanted to make some cool LED effects like rotating LEDs at the precise speed of the Unicycle. To make a DIY Bluetooth smartwatch that displays the speed, battery status etc. The first one is ready to go as you can see in this video: A first prototype of the second one is sort of ready: Here is an example of how you can interface the EUC using my library: /* Simply receive the data the electric unicycle sends * and print it to the serial console on your PC. */ #include <SoftwareSerial.h> #include <EucInterface.h> //Bluetooth serial with rx on pin 9 and tx on pin 10 SoftwareSerial BluetoothSerial(9,10); Euc Euc(BluetoothSerial, BluetoothSerial); // Receive and transmit data via bluetooth void setup() { Serial.begin(250000); // We'll use the normal hardware serial to print out all the received data BluetoothSerial.begin(9600); // Most unicycles communicate @9600 baud over bluetooth Euc.setCallback(eucLoop); // Set a callback function in which we can receive all the data the unicycle sends } void loop() { Euc.tick(); // This simply needs to be called regularely } void eucLoop(float voltage, float speed, float tempMileage, float current, float temperature, float mileage, bool dataIsNew) { if (dataIsNew) { // new data received Serial.print("Voltage: "); Serial.print(voltage); Serial.println("V"); Serial.print("Current: "); Serial.print(current); Serial.println("A"); Serial.print("Speed: "); Serial.print(speed); Serial.println("km/h"); Serial.print("Total mileage: "); Serial.print(mileage,3); Serial.println("km"); Serial.print("Temp mileage: "); Serial.print(tempMileage,3); Serial.println("km"); Serial.print("Temperature: "); Serial.print(temperature); Serial.println(" deg Celsius"); Serial.println(""); Serial.println(""); } } This example uses the Bluetooth interface of the Unicycle. So you'll need a serial Bluetooth module for it. I highly recommend the HC-05 which can be found for less then 3 US$ on aliexpress. But don't worry, there are plenty of other examples in my repo: https://github.com/T-vK/Electric-Unicycle-Interface/tree/master/examples API docs Euc(ReceiverSerial, TransmitterSerial); //create new instance of this class Euc.tick(); // simply has to be called regularly Euc.setCallback(callbackFunction); // you have to specify a callback function to which the class can send the data it receives from the unicycle //Example callback function: void callbackFunction(float voltage, float speed, float tempMileage, float current, float temperature, float mileage, bool dataIsNew) { // Do something with the received data } Euc.beep(); // make the unicycle beep Euc.maddenMode(); // set it to madden mode Euc.comfortMode(); // set it to confort mode Euc.softMode(); // set it to soft mode Euc.calibrateAlignment(); // calibrate alignment Euc.disableLevel1Alarm(); // disable level 1 alarm Euc.disableLevel2Alarm(); // disable level 2 alarm Euc.enableAlarms(); // enable alarms Euc.enable6kmhTiltback(); // enable 6km/h tiltback Euc.disable6kmhTiltback(); // disable 6km/h tiltback
  21. I bought a charge doctor for my kingsong ks16s, with a three pin plug at each end. I would like an adaptor so that the charge doctor can be used with gotway msuper x ( 4 pin plug ). Any idea where I can get one ( actually two, one at each end, I suppose ? ) without having to solder anything?
  22. Rode in the snow for a few hours then it started to shut off when I brake. I kept restarting and I noticed the gyro getting weak at about the 3rd time It shutoff It wouldn't restart at all. When I press the power button now, it doesn't start and only the light ring comes on. Stuck.
  23. First off I like both wheels and I am not here to tell you that one wheel is better that the other. There are strong opinions both ways and the people with those opinions are not crazy or finding faults where there are none. The truth is these wheels are very different. Switching from one wheel to the other shows obvious changes in reaction in you and the wheel. The following is observation, research and educated guessing. I could be wrong. Relatively Speaking: KingSong 18XL This wheel is very refined and uses advanced software. 1) The software allows a lower spike in amperage to achieve the same acceleration. Instead of one quick high spike In amperage it gives a longer burst of lower amperage. (Per correction time unit) 2) The software also aids the rider in creating acceleration. When you first lean on an XL the wheel hesitates to accelerate at first. It allows you to get in front of the wheel and then ramps up the power to catch you. When switching from the MSX to the XL this hesitation, dip and ramping up is very obvious to me. After a few seconds of adjusting to the wheel I think,”WOW!, This thing has pep!” You can roll and twist and throw yourself off balance and the wheel just catches you....... Untill you maneuver too quickly. It takes time for the wheel to catch up. This results in an unexpected jolt of force or a momentary loss of personal balance and pressure against the pedals. In the world of motor controls this action of going from a stop, rounding up to a steady acceleration then reducing the acceleration to a plateau of a steady speed is called the “S curve” Over all the system tends to give the rider a smoother more intuitive ride. It also gets more out of less. More mileage and great acceleration out of smaller board components. The one negative observation that I have found is that at high speed hitting a bump can set off a series of miscommunications. The hesitation, the lack of something to push on caused by a dip in the pedal that results in a rush of acceleration or braking that I did not intentionally request. This problem can usually be remedied by riding like a sane person. This wheel is best suited for people that enjoy the finer things like a smooth intuitive ride with options like speakers and lift handle cut off. It is less suited for people that say things like “ Hey! .. You want to race?” Or “ I bet I can jump over that missing man hole cover” MSuper X This wheel does not have the fancy software. It uses a larger more powerful board. Power saving and amp spike reduction be damned. You do not have the exaggerated S curve to get you going. When switching to the MSX from the XL most people (beginners especially) complain that it takes soooo much more pressure on the toes to move the thing. It is actually kinda sluggish! When you start to lean on the MSX the wheel immediately starts to compensate for your actions. This disallows you to lean forward making acceleration difficult. The wheel will not allow you to get off balance. The solution is to let yourself fall forward on the wheel without putting pressure on your toes. Then once you are leaning apply pressure to your toes. You could say that the XL has an automatic transmission ( the S curve) and the MSX has a clutch. ( you fall forward then put pressure on the toes. When switching from the MSX to the XL I forget and treat the XL like I would the MSX. I fall forward then apply pressure to my toes only to get a hesitation. I then apply more pressure fearing that I am going to fall on my face. By that time it takes off like a rocket. WOW! This thing has pep. The MSX requires more riding skills on your part and in exchange leaves the decisions to you. It does not guess your intentions or aid you in them. It remains indifferent. So witch is better? The XL is more refined with better fit and finish. More options like speakers, lift handle cut off, and it comes with a mud guard. It gives a more pleasant Intuitive ride at speeds below 25 mph. ( I love the thing) The MSX is a no nonsense, you do the driving wheel. You have to man handle the thing in turns, braking and acceleration. It has a larger board that allows higher continuous amperage. It accelerates and brakes faster. It tends to be more stable at speeds above 25 mph........(and I love it more ....... unless I am cruising behind my wife at 12 mph.)
  24. Hey Guys, Got a the Msuperx as my first wheel and am absolutely loving it. The only thing I hate is the flemsy trolley. I broke it the first time during a crash then hit up Jason and he sent me some new rails. I put those on then this time I was just walking with my MSUPER and the Screw that connects the handle to the rails just slips right out. Msuper is great but carrying this wheel around everywhere is getting exhausting. Anybody have a fix for this? or Have a cool way I can attach a custom handle to the rails? Any idea would be appreciated!
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