meepmeepmayer Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, Paradox said: Yes check out the EUCO preorder page. Cool Looks like they just use the popular Begode motors! Commander HT with 3600Wh suddenly seems like a great RS alternative! Double the range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: Cool Looks like they just use the popular Begode motors! Commander HT with 3600Wh suddenly seems like a great RS alternative! Double the range. Jack mentions that this is not a hollow bore motor. So some differences. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thendless Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. They should have named this the Duck Commander 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Paradox said: Jack mentions that this is not a hollow bore motor. So some differences. Thanks! I guess I should just watch the video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RagingGrandpa Posted September 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Mango said: So for $500 more than Sherman, you get 12.5% more battery, some $5 LED strips and $10 speakers, and worse ergonomics ...and a High Torque option! 1 hour ago, Mango said: long-range off-road riding, if 8-hour trail riding is your thing No! It's for the street! The HT motor is amazing for the bigger guys 250lb+ that easily overlean the Sherman during lowspeed acceleration. The HT version that beeps at 37mph is plenty fast for urban riding, and will be *faster* than the Sherman at getting A to B, because its lets you accelerate more. 57 minutes ago, Paradox said: not a hollow bore motor Good! Stub-axle bearings are easier to service, and more resistant to moisture (simply because the bearing seals are hidden further away from the road). And we don't need jump-worthy axle strength in the Commander- 80lb EUCs were never meant for BMX. It's a long-range street wheel. 1 hour ago, Mango said: when it rains The Sherman is completely un-sealed also, so no real difference between the competitors here. I've got a handful of big 'merican boys at my local, that ride Shermans but have to baby them when accelerating. Let the men have their torque! I think the Commander spec is excellent; now I just hope the execution is no worse than Sherman (which was far from perfect). 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jason McNeil Posted September 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) Some Commander production news: - They [EB/BG] is wrapping up the first 40x Commanders—kudos to them for getting a new release out the door first! - HT/C38 are first, with the HS/C30 expected to be complete next week - Since we flew in 100x of the LiTech 900Wh packs, we'll be flying in the first round (all accounted for), sending out a demo HT on the US reviewer circuit - BG are shifting all RS, EX.N, Commander production to knobby/CST-186 tires in an attempt to streamline production processes - CN is going to be shutting down next week on their 7 day October national holiday, nothing happens during these holidays - Compounded with container shortages, 3 week delay at US ports, it's going to be a stretch to see any large scale arrivals of new models until possibly the new year, perhap a miracle will happen, but improbable... Edited September 22, 2021 by Jason McNeil 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ugoaps Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 Begode has an uncanny knack for getting everything wrong when it comes to marketing. To clean up some bad reputation, they changed their name from Gotway to Begode ... they changed half. Nowadays, if you buy a Begode, you find that "Gotway" appears in some parts of the wheel, while in others it says "Begode". But there is one thing that strikes me a lot: the new logo of the brand has gone from being a GW to a W, which I don't know what sense it makes, because the word Begode does not have any "W". In any case it remembers to "Gotway", that yes it has it. "Exteme Bull" is one more episode of their absurd marketing. They present a wheel with the same motherboard and motor as Begode (that is, the fundamental parts of a wheel), while they want to convince us that it is a "completely independent" company. It's just a joke. I think this topic should move to the Gotway / Begode specific brands section, and rename it Gotway / Begode & Extreme Bull. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meepmeepmayer Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 9 hours ago, ugoaps said: But there is one thing that strikes me a lot: the new logo of the brand has gone from being a GW to a W, which I don't know what sense it makes, because the word Begode does not have any "W". The Begode logo actually says GW (for Gotway). Here's your "G": Same as the EB logo, it says EB: 9 hours ago, ugoaps said: I think this topic should move to the Gotway / Begode specific brands section, and rename it Gotway / Begode & Extreme Bull. It was moved 2 times already - to the GW forum and back here. Still not sure how independent the new "Extreme Bull" is. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GothamMike Posted September 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2021 If you asked the typical English Speaker what they thought about "Extreme Bull" Many would think "Extreme Bull-shit" in my honest opinion. A poor choice of words. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/21/2021 at 8:49 PM, RagingGrandpa said: It's a long-range street wheel. And comes with a knobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mrelwood said: And comes with a knobby. * an all-terrain tire For my local terrain, I prefer the K262 on Sherman: excellent for 50mi+ expeditions on dirt and gravel roads and pathways, with paved connections here and there. No jumps. (And usually not exceeding 35mph.) Edited September 23, 2021 by RagingGrandpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhpr262 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) Man, so now we have companies using the fact that they use traditional motors instead of hollow core motors for advertising. Makes you realize how badly Inmotion and Gotway have botched the introduction of that technology. I wont be sorry to see it go though, I could never really see the benefits. A couple ounces of weight saved vs. vastly more expensive and fragile bearings. You could have easily used really beefy motor wires by increasing the diameter of a normal axle by just 50% or so, and the bearings could still have been really affordable standard ones with sturdy, reliable seals. Edited September 24, 2021 by mhpr262 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meepmeepmayer Posted September 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2021 I don't agree with that! The "new" latest Begode hollow motors (on the RS) with "small" bearings are the best of both worlds - no axle and yet no crazy big and failure-prone and expensive bearings - and they seem to work perfectly fine. I think that's what the manufacturers should go for. You have to remember the huge bearings were part because of suspension (especially on the EX, but on the V11 too if I remember right), so that the space in the middle of the motor could be used for suspension travel. Now with better suspension designs that's no longer necessary. No need to go back to axles when a better alternative ("small" hollow motors) exists. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eucner Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 The hollow motors are actually hollow axle motors, not motors without axles. Even the new smaller bearings with Begode hollow motors are unnecessarily big. It would be nice to know the actual axle size Commander is using. I hope they have upgraded from the standard 17 mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteWheelie Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 I put a deposit down for the commander for my first wheel im hyped! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) Really looking forward to a hillclimb stress test for both of these HT wheels, @Electric Dreamsss https://www.instagram.com/p/CUhAf0nLIzE/ Edited October 4, 2021 by RagingGrandpa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resko727 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 On 9/26/2021 at 11:34 PM, InfiniteWheelie said: I put a deposit down for the commander for my first wheel im hyped! Congrats I would recommend you buy a cheap used wheel to learn on 90lbs wheel can be tricky This looks like a decent wheel seeing as Sherman’s are hard to come by. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ugoaps Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 New vids 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3600wh seems to be the most battery capacity that is practical with today’s battery chemistry, otherwise larger shell like MPro or we enjoy riding bowlegged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 I can't imagine that sitting directly on the shell feels good for your bum, wonder how a potential seat would attach, not same as Sherman for sure, maybe a seat that sticks into the hole in the back maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Rawnei said: maybe a seat that sticks into the hole in the back maybe? Someone definitely can play on those words..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, ShanesPlanet said: Someone definitely can play on those words..... You are dirty Shane, I meant the hole on the back of wheel not the rider. 😉😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillerskates Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) Omg, I can't help myself any longer- surely someone has mentioned South Park episode "The IT" on these forums before? Gyroscopic downfall of the travel industry anyone Edited October 7, 2021 by Lillerskates 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugoaps Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 https://www.instagram.com/p/CUuxbTLtPeM/? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul A Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 102 kph. How many riders are realistically going to go that fast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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