stephen 4,548 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) This might be another leaperkim wheel ,,,,,16inch 3600wh😬? Think the might be trying for all of the market Edited August 12 by stephen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yxzygäilijä 100 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Looks like direct Monster pro competitor. Monster pro specs but better quality. 18 minutes ago, stephen said: 16inch Spec sheet indicates it's 20 inch wheel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
div 103 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) If it’s a 18x3 « 20 » inch it could look like a successor of the Sherman. More power, some weight saving from removing roll bars? (i don’t see where the spec sheet says 20” though) Display is a bit tiny, which could indicate OLED. I’d vote for large LCD, good readability in daylight. Edit: the display is probably the RS LED type. I prefer this angular look that fits the Sherman rather than the Abrams decorative panels. Some of it remind of the chicways c16 vaporwheel, especially the pedals. Speaking of which, Veteran just showed the Abrams, not sure it makes sense to make two different pedal styles at the same time. Also, the Abrams is sold as « offroad » and should have had the hex pedals they where into that. The font reminds of the monster v3 though. The B in a circle logo on the pedals is a lot like the G for Begode. Edited August 12 by div Quote Link to post Share on other sites
div 103 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) This new EUC is probably a Begode: the B logo on the pedals is the exact same as their « extreme bull ». (Thanks @justin38 ) That name is also mentioned in the spec sheet. The style of the spec sheet is also the same as Begode, here is the monster pro version. Edited August 12 by div Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bone 24 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Apparently Extreme Bull is actually a separate company or factory, and this will be the "Extreme Bull Commander" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
div 103 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 6 minutes ago, Bone said: Apparently Extreme Bull is actually a separate company or factory, and this will be the "Extreme Bull Commander" Extreme bull is still on the Begode website, but interesting if they spin it off as a separate entity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EMA 1,034 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 it's real but it's a begode, spec not confirmed yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bone 24 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 4 minutes ago, div said: Extreme bull is still on the Begode website, but interesting if they spin it off as a separate entity. Yeah but even there it's labelled "Produced by Extreme Bull Technology Co., Ltd". Same with the Dten 3. I guess they're owned by Begode? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meepmeepmayer 13,444 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) I'm getting the impression Gotway have to rename their company a lot, first Begode, now Extreme Bull? I wonder what's going on there. Edited August 12 by meepmeepmayer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Patrick Robert 63 Posted August 12 Popular Post Share Posted August 12 2 hours ago, div said: (i don’t see where the spec sheet says 20” though) Wheel diameter is 508 mm (= 20 inches). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Circuitmage 659 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 "Automatically shut off to protect the rider..." , yikes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supercurio 400 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) Interesting, a Veteran Sherman direct competitor from Begode with very similar characteristics besides a bigger battery, smaller screen and that will launch after the Sherman production halted. Many design features are clearly inspired of the Sherman but without the metal crash bars. I wonder what the quality may be. More like the Sherman, or typical Begode? It looks like it'll be the only Sherman replacement available in a near future now that it's gone. Edited August 12 by supercurio Quote Link to post Share on other sites
div 103 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 2 minutes ago, Patrick Robert said: Wheel diameter is 508 mm (= 20 inches). Good one, at least they gave the real size and didn’t bump it up a standard step. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meepmeepmayer 13,444 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Circuitmage said: "Automatically shut off to protect the rider..." , yikes. That's completely normal, and all wheels do that. If they tilt too much to the side, they shut off to prevent a "Gotway dance" type of situation when falling over. If they tilt too much forward/backwards (like 45°), they also shut off because a crash is already happening then anyways, no need to make it worse by accelerating into it. No need to worry about that, it's exactly what we have now with all wheels. Edited August 12 by meepmeepmayer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul A 394 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 So Commander is by Begode and not LeaperKim, because the logo on the pedals is a rounded B, which is Extreme Bull, which is on the Begode website...... Yes, seems like Begode is trying to distance itself from the Gotway reputation, imitate the look of a Sherman, and have the name of Extreme Bull. Clever marketing or something else.. Form over substance? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RockyTop 3,992 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Looks great, ....... But what is it? Leaperkim, GotWay, Begode , Extremebull? Was it designed by the makers of the Sherman or leftover Gotway people? I personally believe that when Gotway split the useful people ended up at Leaperkim. I need to know the efforts behind this wheel before I pay for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tawpie 1,324 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) is has a "Saft" Cruising Speed of 20KM/H??? And it automatically shut off when in rotation away from the ground? Be saft and go slow... if you go fast you might catch some air and wheel will shut off—not so saft. Edited August 12 by Tawpie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
div 103 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) 24 minutes ago, RockyTop said: Looks great, ....... But what is it? Leaperkim, GotWay, Begode , Extremebull? Was it designed by the makers of the Sherman or leftover Gotway people? I personally believe that when Gotway split the useful people ended up at Leaperkim. I need to know the efforts behind this wheel before I pay for it. The veteran gang left from Begode to start their own company. They are an entirely separate company (Leaperkim). Begode wasn’t happy about that. Extreme bull is a sub brand of Begode, it seems they used it for kick scooters, not sure why they would now use it for EUCs.. Whether it’s just branding or a different team remains to be seen. Edited August 12 by div Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RockyTop 3,992 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 12 minutes ago, Tawpie said: is has a "Saft" Cruising Speed of 20KM/H??? And it automatically shut off when in rotation away from the ground? Be saft and go slow... if you go fast you might catch some air and wheel will shut off—not so saft. It really only goes 20km/h. Wink wink. Going faster would be dangerous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
div 103 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) Totally saft, trust us 👍 Edited August 12 by div Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tawpie 1,324 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RockyTop said: It really only goes 20km/h but your 3600WH battery will take you 230 km! (230 km from 3600WH is 15.6 WH/km, reasonable/conservative at 20 kph) Edited August 12 by Tawpie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RockyTop 3,992 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tawpie said: but your 3600WH battery will take you 230 km! Sure! It might even go further!! ...because that would not be a safety concern. Leaperkim would NEVER sell a product that goes over 20km/h. If you go faster you are using the wheel improperly. They can’t be responsible for that. WINK WINK!! Edited August 12 by RockyTop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Paul A 394 Posted August 12 Popular Post Share Posted August 12 Think the new KS20 might be more interesting when it launches. Some of these new wheels just seem to be more batteries in the pack, a reconfiguration to get more voltage, a change of cosmetics with different panels. ExtremeBull branding. It's still Gotway/Begode quality/not quality, reliability/unreliability, quality control/lack of quality control.......what ever the name is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RockyTop 3,992 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 19 minutes ago, div said: The veteran gang left from Begode to start their own company. They are an entirely separate company (Leaperkim). Begode wasn’t happy about that. I am aware. I like Leaperkim. I once liked Gotway.( not so much now) I would rather that they stay apart. Yet this wheel seems to have parts of both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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