Gotway Monster Pro

[erk1024]

9 hours ago, Dancer said:

The 3.00-18 would make ik 24.7 inch overall.

That's just one inch smaller than a triathlon road bike wheel. Big motor, big rim/tire, 3400wh ... what's the weight going to be?! 

[Daniel-Son]

I’m getting very excited for this wheel! I’ve been wanting Gotway to redo the monster for along time...and I like what they have done! This might be my first Gotway. Hope they are able to compete with the Sherman, otherwise I might have to flip for the veteran.

[Marty Backe]

Here's a better picture showing the massive tire

 

[Fuerte]

This might be my next wheel, I hope they don’t limit the top speed...

[Ben Kim]

1 hour ago, Marty Backe said:

Here's a better picture showing the massive tire

 

Ugh, look at those flimsy screw posts.  They're not any beefier than the ones on the Monster V3!  Add on 3600Wh of battery this shell is gonna split in half after one crash.  After looking inside the Veteran Sherman fit and finish, my standards have gone up tenfold.  

Edited June 22, 2020 by Ben Kim

[Rywokast]

1 hour ago, Fuerte said:

This might be my next wheel, I hope they don’t limit the top speed...

they never have

[Nick McCutcheon]

12 minutes ago, Rywokast said:

they never have

Maybe @Fuerte is hoping they won't use a motor that's slower than the current speed kings to increase torque, as was done on the MSP. I'm hoping this as well! I'm very enticed by the Sherman's 50mph top speed, but I'd definitely need to save up a bit before committing to a new wheel purchase and I still want to wait and see how this wheel turns out.

[Rywokast]

5 minutes ago, Nick McCutcheon said:

Maybe @Fuerte is hoping they won't use a motor that's slower than the current speed kings to increase torque, as was done on the MSP. I'm hoping this as well! I'm very enticed by the Sherman's 50mph top speed, but I'd definitely need to save up a bit before committing to a new wheel purchase and I still want to wait and see how this wheel turns out.

50 mph "claimed"

https://m.facebook.com/groups/819824711409186?view=permalink&id=3191394047585562

[Esbu]

7 hours ago, Nick McCutcheon said:

Maybe @Fuerte is hoping they won't use a motor that's slower than the current speed kings to increase torque, as was done on the MSP.

4000W motor power.... well, when truck goes out of fuel (power), with Monster Pro, driver can push his truck to gas (power) station

[Tazarinho]

On 6/8/2020 at 12:22 PM, WI_Hedgehog said:

EUC insurance will be 3x the cost of car insurance

I pay less than 50€ per year for mine.

[EUC Custom Power-Pads]

11 hours ago, Ben Kim said:

Ugh, look at those flimsy screw posts.

After I saw the picture on FB this morning I thought the same. But I decided to keep my mouth closed. I didn't want to look like a Gotway basher. 

My hope to buy a Gotway this year, preferably with suspension, goes more and more to zero when I see that the quality gets worse rather than better. 

[bryon01]

As the weight of the EUC goes up it doesn't appear that Gotway is increasing the thickness of the shell to match.  I expect that crashing this guy will lead to the shell being destroyed.   I suspect that the original monster suffers the same fate.  It isn't that the shell is different, it is the fact that the wheel weighs more and is larger that gives rise to why it is so damage prone.  If they increased the thickness and supports in the shell it could take more of a pounding.

 

I'm also not sold on the veteran approach of wrapping it in metal.  That will just bend but not really prevent damage.  Plastic is better at absorbing the energy and springing back to shape.  (If thick enough)

[erk1024]

14 hours ago, Ben Kim said:

Ugh, look at those flimsy screw posts.  They're not any beefier than the ones on the Monster V3! 

I thought the ones on the Monster 3 were OK. They were plastic posts with brass inserts. The screws were machine screws (instead of the woodscrews they used to use). The brass inserts do a decent job of distributing force to the plastic.

Edited June 22, 2020 by erk1024

[Ben Kim]

55 minutes ago, erk1024 said:

I thought the ones on the Monster 3 were OK. They were plastic posts with brass inserts. The screws were machine screws (instead of the woodscrews they used to use). The brass inserts do a decent job of distributing force to the plastic.

 

Look at the thickness of those posts, those will shear clean off on a higher speed drop, I've seen it happen.  Now add essentially double the battery and more weight to those same posts, and consider what will happen.  That shell isn't instilling confidence in durability.  

Most of this forum isn't what I'd consider aggressive or risk-taking ridership, so wheel durability isn't to high up on most people's list, but in NYC, S**t happens, and it happens often due to our poor condition roads, so that is a huge consideration for us. 

Edited June 22, 2020 by Ben Kim

[Marty Backe]

20 hours ago, Ben Kim said:

Ugh, look at those flimsy screw posts.  They're not any beefier than the ones on the Monster V3!  Add on 3600Wh of battery this shell is gonna split in half after one crash.  After looking inside the Veteran Sherman fit and finish, my standards have gone up tenfold.  

Yeah, unfortunately it does appear to be a scaled up version of what they've been doing all along. There needs to be a lot more hardware in this new wheel to make it survive.

If I get one, which I really want to, I highly doubt that I'll take it on any trails or places where I might drop it.

[Ben Kim]

8 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

Yeah, unfortunately it does appear to be a scaled up version of what they've been doing all along. There needs to be a lot more hardware in this new wheel to make it survive.

If I get one, which I really want to, I highly doubt that I'll take it on any trails or places where I might drop it.

with that attitude you shouldn’t ride any of your wheels! Get your moneys worth, pad those wheels up, ride those things into the ground or get rid of them. An unridden wheel is a wasted wheel! 

[Ben Kim]

9 hours ago, buell47 said:

After I saw the picture on FB this morning I thought the same. But I decided to keep my mouth closed. I didn't want to look like a Gotway basher. 

My hope to buy a Gotway this year, preferably with suspension, goes more and more to zero when I see that the quality gets worse rather than better. 

I am an equal opportunity basher; if I see something concerning, I’ll point it out. Nobody pays me to promote any brand or review their wheels, so as a paying customer I will speak my mind, and so should everyone else. The Chinese don’t understand anything other than money. Stop filling their pockets paying for junk and they’ll be forced to up their game. 

[Marty Backe]

4 minutes ago, Ben Kim said:

with that attitude you shouldn’t ride any of your wheels! Get your moneys worth, pad those wheels up, ride those things into the ground or get rid of them. An unridden wheel is a wasted wheel! 

If/when I buy the Monster Pro, I'm getting it for cruising, not trail riding. I beat the hell out of most of my wheels. I think the Pro is a different story. I don't need to burn through $4K just-because I can.

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9 hours ago, buell47 said:

After I saw the picture on FB this morning I thought the same. But I decided to keep my mouth closed. I didn't want to look like a Gotway basher. 

My hope to buy a Gotway this year, preferably with suspension, goes more and more to zero when I see that the quality gets worse rather than better. 

My initial kneejerk reaction on GW, was proven applicable when I purchased the mten. Good enough quality for that little beast, but it made me ponder a bit more. Now I see and hear more and more reports about GW and what seems to be the same basic build quality but just adding more weight and power. . . no thanks. I mean I am REALLY lured in by the specs and the range and the other benefits, but i just can't overlook the core issues. I'm too tech minded and Im seeing: wiring mess and boards that have the same BS layout, thin plastics and almost no attempts to make REAL progress as far as tech. You would think a redesign of the pcb, would include connection points that enable a cleaner and more reliable connection with a main harness. I wonder if the pcb's are even CLOSE to the quality of some of my studio grade equipment that was made in germany or usa? Maybe we would see OTHER plastics being used that have flex in key areas. I'm just seeing a lazy rehash of what is now, old build tech. Maybe its all perfectly adequate, but I'd really like to invest (yes invest, $4k is nearly 4 mos salary and twice the costs of my daily driver car) in a wheel that I plan on keeping until the batteries fail. WIth proper build quality, it would be nice to have a wheel live so long that its feasible to replace the battery and keep rolling. As it is now, these wheels are expensive and disposable. All brands are similar, but gotway is getting away with negating the bigger picture and just dazzling us with specs and adding more  and more onto an unchanged format. I too wonder what corners they will cut on a suspension wheel, as we already see how difficult this basic euc format is for them. Give me some $$ and a real reason and I could probably fabricate a 100lb wheel that can unsafely do 50mph as well. Sad part is, im basically an idiot.

Edited June 23, 2020 by ShanesPlanet

[Dancer]

With my riding style and wheel usage I have no problem with the Gotway quality. I have 25000+ km on my Monster V2 (80% on-road, 20% off-road) and it still is scratch free.

[Will R]

22 hours ago, bryon01 said:

I'm also not sold on the veteran approach of wrapping it in metal.  That will just bend but not really prevent damage.  Plastic is better at absorbing the energy and springing back to shape.  (If thick enough)

While plastic does indeed spring back due to its elasticity, bending metal is a considerably better way to absorb energy than bouncing plastic. Absorbing impacts is the whole point of crumple zones in cars, they reduce the energy going to the delicate bits (your body, or the PCB/batteries). I personally completely embrace the softish metal bar approach to high-speed crash-protection.

[alex5454]

how much you keep the pressure of the MS PRO (for a weight of 65 kg) on the road (no off road)

Edited June 23, 2020 by alex5454

[EMA]

new pics, including the new bigger pedals

 

 

Edited December 9, 2020 by EMA

[Esbu]

2 hours ago, EMA said:

new pics, including the new bigger pedals

nice

pic.1 -  I have feeling I see MSuper shell enlarged by inflation - like overblown air mattress.

pic.2 - are they really bigger? I can´t compare them on this pic, because of bad placement for comparison

[meepmeepmayer]

The front/back corners of the shell look like there is not much ground clearance.

Maybe there is due to the sheer size.

It does indeed look like a scaled-up msuper. Not spectacular, but not bad either.