Popular Post GoGeorgeGo Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ~~~o~~~ said: wait what's up should I take my s18 apart? it's been good for 300 miles so far. no signs of quitting or noises or issues. Depressurize your shock, if your linkage system moves up and down with one hand don't worry about it. If you have to use two hands and force the linkage to move, you should consider contacting your dealer for guidance on how to address the sticky system Edited October 5, 2020 by GoGeorgeGo 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steef Klonoa Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Beachboy said: What I did was pushed down that steel spring before the notch then you can slip the cable in after that just tape it.. as for those bolts & bushings they’re all craps and to make it worse some bolts overly glued on... Some hints, I dont think you need to dissamble the whole wheel, just take out your shock then unscrew middle suspension linkage bolts, then the upper arms bolt you can leave the bolts that holds suspension arms in slider cage, after that install your washers accordingly, do not overly drop your washers there, a bit less is better. I also add washers on the bolts that holds the upper suspension arms so that bolts will not grind the wall/board frame and also in between the middle suspension linkage arms if not your bearings will clash then caused great friction so that your suspension arms cant move freely..put one or two good quality washers there.. do not overly tightened bolts especially the one that have stacked bearings.. You have to work your way on those crappy bolts and bushings out, then find a suitable replacement, I think feynman knows a good replacement. I love my S18, all I did just those I mention up there, ride it almost every day without problem and I never been so excited everytime I saw bumps and curbs along the way Btw, I hope you understand and sorry for my bad english anyway... Thank you for your suggestions! I am using a 3d printed cover for the cable, I recommend looking into it if you do not have one. Rockytop should have a link. See my picture with the cover on: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kommienezuspadt said: I may have overlooked this skimming the long thread, but do we have any distributors offering replacement panels, mud guards, etc. for the S18? Mine is batch 2, running flawlessly, but cosmetically beat up from some off road trails. Battle scars are a badge of honor but Ewheels may have some of the body panels you’re looking for. 19 hours ago, Steef Klonoa said: Thanks @Rehab1 what a relief! Finally got this thing on. Glad I opted for the 3d printed wire cover instead of bashing the cable into my wheel like Jack had suggested. @RockyTop thanks for the link to buy that! Yes I purchased the cover from RockyTop (BlackSwamp...scorpion?....). Great product! Edited October 5, 2020 by Rehab1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RockyTop Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 32 minutes ago, Steef Klonoa said: Rockytop should have a link S18 motor wire protector kit 4 minutes ago, Rehab1 said: (BlackSwamp...scorpion?....) We don’t have many Black Swaps in the hills of Tennessee. You are thinking of the Ozark. We do have Black Crows. The dark sinister bird of opportunity that is actually very friendly, smart and widely misunderstood. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, RockyTop said: We do have Black Crows. The dark sinister bird of opportunity that is actually very friendly, smart and widely misunderstood. My bad. You fit your title. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fbhb Posted October 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2020 (edited) A totally different, but very impressive end result with this owner's "Blacked Out" Naked/Minimalist S18 custom job, don't you agree??? Just found out, courtesy of @Mike Sacristan that this custom job was created by @iWheel of Sweden Cheers Mike! Edited October 10, 2020 by fbhb 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FinRider Posted October 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2020 Guys, with permission from Ryszard from EUNICYCLES I would like to share with you the communication that he is sending to his customers. Again a strong reason to buy from an authorized distributor as you would be completely on your own if you bought a grey import directly from China. He has offered me to either send my KS S18 to him for repairs or to get the repair kit and perform the repairs/upgrades myself. I enjoy the mechanical work on these things. It is actually fairly easy and straightforward with the available resources linked in this document (see attached pictures below) and the official KS youtube videos on their channel. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, FinRider said: Guys, with permission from Ryszard from EUNICYCLES I would like to share with you the communication that he is sending to his customers At first glance the S18 suspension mod kit appears sound but performing the task is not for everyone. If in doubt best to send your wheel back to the distributor for repairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 5 hours ago, fbhb said: A totally different, but very impressive approach taken with this owner's "Blacked Out" Naked/Minimalist S18 custom job, don't you agree??? Very nice! Are you painting the molded foam panels as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbhb Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Rehab1 said: Very nice! Are you painting the molded foam panels as well? It's not my S18 Dan, I'm still waiting for mine to arrive here in NZ! I shared the photo's from the King Song Telegram group and believe the owner is going to be leaving the wheel "as is"! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplecycle Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Hello All, I have started noticing another sound coming from the motor (I think) -- it sounds to me like a bearings noise. This is a tentative video Ignoring the tire rubs and the beeps, there is a metallic sound which I do not think is normal. Can you guys also hear it, or am I crazy? I sent this video to my distributor and they say the sound is normal. I will try to do a better video where the sound is more obvious. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steef Klonoa Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 @Purplecycle I can hear it, and I know mine doesn't make that noise. Have you been riding in the rain, or lots of puddles? Also, try spraying some silicone lube in the wheel where the bearing is, probably not a permanent fix but it might make it go away for a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eve Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Does anyone know the reason why some wheels axles come misaligned. Cant put my head around it. Its either a low precision mold on the golden parts of the suspension or the sliders. One other reason might be some low intelligence individual putting one more washer on one side. My S18 is still sitting at home. @Jack King Song Yes i tried putting 25 sheets of beer cans and i needed to drink another one to continue! It helped somewhat when the wheel was on its head but as soon as i screwed the axles on it become even worse then before. I might be doing something wrong. My wheel is tilted to the left as in top-side is going left. I obviously need a new fender that i know. That thing is just crooked. But the cause of the misalignment is a mystery. Well first wheel and i have rode aproximately 3meters on it. Edited October 8, 2020 by eve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, eve said: Does anyone know the reason why some wheels axles come misaligned. Cant put my head around it. Its either a low precision mold on the golden parts of the suspension or the sliders. One other reason might be some low intelligence individual putting one more washer on one side. My S18 is still sitting at home. @Jack King Song Yes i tried putting 25 sheets of beer cans and i needed to drink another one to continue! It helped somewhat when the wheel was on its head but as soon as i screwed the axles on it become even worse then before. I might be doing something wrong. My wheel is tilted to the left as in top-side is going left. I obviously need a new fender that i know. That thing is just crooked. But the cause of the misalignment is a mystery. Well first wheel and i have rode aproximately 3meters on it. Ok, let’s start over. What I would do is shim one side of both axle blocks on top of the axle. Put the shin on the Opposite of the side that is touching the fender. One side - One edge. About 1/3 of the axle block width to the side opposite of the tire touching the fender. This should tilt the axle. I personally could not see how shimming as previously described by KS would have worked. You have to tilt the axle compared to the block. Edited October 8, 2020 by RockyTop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Dreams Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 4 hours ago, eve said: Does anyone know the reason why some wheels axles come misaligned. Cant put my head around it. Its either a low precision mold on the golden parts of the suspension or the sliders. One other reason might be some low intelligence individual putting one more washer on one side. My S18 is still sitting at home. @Jack King Song Yes i tried putting 25 sheets of beer cans and i needed to drink another one to continue! It helped somewhat when the wheel was on its head but as soon as i screwed the axles on it become even worse then before. I might be doing something wrong. My wheel is tilted to the left as in top-side is going left. I obviously need a new fender that i know. That thing is just crooked. But the cause of the misalignment is a mystery. Well first wheel and i have rode aproximately 3meters on it. Theres multiple points that may cause the wheel to shift to one side. However the most likely and most common are due to the platforms on the axel of the motor. Unlike other wheels where precision of these platforms are not needed to be so precise the S18 with all it's moving parts does require that. Hence if you remove your motor you can observe the cuts to see which side may need additional support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bridgeboy Posted October 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2020 7 hours ago, eve said: @Jack King Song Yes i tried putting 25 sheets of beer cans and i needed to drink another one to continue! It helped somewhat when the wheel was on its head but as soon as i screwed the axles on it become even worse then before. I might be doing something wrong. Well I hate to state the obvious, but yes, you did something wrong. The official OEM shim for the S18 is a Coke can. Not a beer can(s). 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eve Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Bridgeboy said: The official OEM shim for the S18 is a Coke can. Not a beer can(s). f**k. 9 hours ago, Jack King Song said: Hence if you remove your motor you can observe the cuts to see which side may need additional support. So a i should check the top of the sliders and the black "seats"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Maziere Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Question. I plan to buy a fast charger for my S18. Any suggestion with an affordable price? Thanks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Reitz Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) On 10/8/2020 at 5:30 AM, Purplecycle said: Hello All, I have started noticing another sound coming from the motor (I think) -- it sounds to me like a bearings noise. This is a tentative video Ignoring the tire rubs and the beeps, there is a metallic sound which I do not think is normal. Can you guys also hear it, or am I crazy? I sent this video to my distributor and they say the sound is normal. I will try to do a better video where the sound is more obvious. Thanks. My wheel also has a bearing noise. It goes away for a day or so whenever I put oil or wd-40 on the spacers as best I can angle them to get the oil into the center. On 10/8/2020 at 12:55 PM, Steef Klonoa said: @Purplecycle I can hear it, and I know mine doesn't make that noise. Have you been riding in the rain, or lots of puddles? Also, try spraying some silicone lube in the wheel where the bearing is, probably not a permanent fix but it might make it go away for a little bit. I've done lots of rain riding.. even crossed a creek with a 2 foot deep spot where I had to jump off. And yea, with the inner fender mostly gone (kept only left side to mount the k262). On 10/8/2020 at 4:42 PM, eve said: Does anyone know the reason why some wheels axles come misaligned. Cant put my head around it. Its either a low precision mold on the golden parts of the suspension or the sliders. One other reason might be some low intelligence individual putting one more washer on one side. My S18 is still sitting at home. @Jack King Song Yes i tried putting 25 sheets of beer cans and i needed to drink another one to continue! It helped somewhat when the wheel was on its head but as soon as i screwed the axles on it become even worse then before. I might be doing something wrong. My wheel is tilted to the left as in top-side is going left. I obviously need a new fender that i know. That thing is just crooked. But the cause of the misalignment is a mystery. Well first wheel and i have rode aproximately 3meters on it. The first time I removed my motor to change the tire I later found shims on the floor that I later yet learned were used by KS to eliminate the tire rub. The inner fender is too small even for the stock wheel and for some reason the sliders don't seem to align properly. At least with the my inner fender's top removed I have enough there that shims aren't needed. Edited October 10, 2020 by Elliott Reitz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 On 10/8/2020 at 8:57 PM, Jack King Song said: Unlike other wheels where precision of these platforms are not needed to be so precise the S18 with all it's moving parts does require that. Jack, are the 2 axle platforms machined by a CNC or milled by hand? Being that these axle anchoring points are so critical for proper alignment up the chain shouldn’t more attention be paid to precision? For my own edification I would love to see some photos of the milling operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NastyFartPants Posted October 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2020 I've done my own basic suspension mods This is it straight out of the box, shock disconnected My version did not have any spring lock washers, but it did have penny washers Minimal disassembly, the right hand side cover and batteries left in place I did replace some of the double bearings as they were binding due to not being accurately aligned! I then replaced the penny washers with M10 x 13mm x 1mm Flat Seal Washers so that the only contact was with the bearing's inner race. I lubricated the Stanchions, there were no blocks on the pedal hangers to remove (see my original post p138) Finally, the finished result 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, NastyFartPants said: Finally, the finished result Congratulations! Great work! Wished I could give you 2 ...one for the mods and a second one for your interesting name. Can I just call you NFP? Worried that my spell check might blurt out something else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bridgeboy Posted October 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2020 4 hours ago, NastyFartPants said: I've done my own basic suspension mods This is it straight out of the box, shock disconnected That is what mine is like. Stuck and heck. Unfortunately I can't even get mine apart because the Allen screw heads on teh interior of the linkage arms, inside by the shock, stripped into circles. they are way overtightened and Loctited (I think). But my Sherman arrived yesterday, so I'll focus on that until eWheels figures out how to fix the suspension on my S18. I know they are waiting for more replacement parts/ fastener/connector/bearing replacement kits to arrive, etc. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steef Klonoa Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Can someone please send me a screenshot in the KS app where the cutoff angle can be adjusted? I was at a stop sign and a car came by fast when I was about to go, so I did a quick 360 on one foot and the thing cut off. Luckily I caught it before it hit the pavement. Never would have happened on my Z10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eve Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Steef Klonoa said: Can someone please send me a screenshot in the KS app where the cutoff angle can be adjusted? I was at a stop sign and a car came by fast when I was about to go, so I did a quick 360 on one foot and the thing cut off. Luckily I caught it before it hit the pavement. Never would have happened on my Z10. Its not in the Kingsong App. Search for Kingsong Tuner or Soft Tuner. Its another app. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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