INMOTION V11 (2020)

[mrelwood]

34 minutes ago, ShanesPlanet said:

I am sure the subleties of the wheel's feel can be adjusted.

They are definitely not subtleties. One small rider couldn’t turn with my V11 until we adjusted the suspension sag correctly. The height difference can be up to 2 inches.

 And the sponginess can be controlled very well by the negative chamber pressure, and can make the suspension pretty tight if one wants to.

 Same goes for the ride mode settings. They go roughly all the way from a vintage KS soft to a modern GW medium. And the beta firmware can even adjust braking and accelerating separately. Also an adjustment that can make the wheel unridable.

 Knowing that your experience comes from wheels that have only three riding modes, which all tend to be sort of more of the same, the range of adjustments is way beyond what you are thinking. The V11 is a wheel that you have to learn to know to be able to make it into your own.

34 minutes ago, ShanesPlanet said:

I highly doubt that the ride modes and rebound/dampening has much to do with center of gravity and lack of power from that of which I am used to.

Those are exactly what they are designed to adjust. And they do it well.

But it takes some effort to get into the wheel, and I can’t see how you would be interested enough to do that.

[Wolverine]

I have to agree completely with @mrelwood

@ShanesPlanetA few minutes of riding a different unicycle doesn't give us any idea what it is. Also, considering that the V11 can be set up very thoroughly, unfortunately you did not have the opportunity to feel what could be achieved with this unicycle. So, I suggest you take a closer look at this unicycle and you can feel what we feel when we are riding with it

[Forwardnbak]

I started on the V11 loved it, knew no better. I just rode it and it was great.

Then i started to dial in tire pressure, both chamber pressures, pad position, tilt angle, soft/hard mode percentage and then work on my riding before i really started to feel like everything was good. About 6 months riding before i sorted all that out for me. Had fun the whole way though. 

Still do, it’s a workhorse! love it. 

[The Brahan Seer]

3 hours ago, ShanesPlanet said:

lack of power from that of which I am used to

I must admit I tried my wheel with a lower pedal height and was so surprised how different it felt. I had so much more manoeuvrability, response, poke and stability.  I put the pedals back up though as I prefer the clearance. Over and above the suspension maybe this too is why you didn't like it as much. 

[Paradox]

[Paradox]

So any feedback on the new firmware released today?  I have heard very little so far. 

[Forwardnbak]

3 minutes ago, Paradox said:

So any feedback on the new firmware released today?  I have heard very little so far. 

I haven’t seen anything yet. Just woke up and saw it, keen for a roll but wet atm. 

People seem to be updating no problem that’s a good sign. 

[Paradox]

I have a question about the tail light.  Does it only work if the head light is on?  Is there a setting in the app to always have the tail light on?   I just noticed my brake light only lights up if the front light is on.  I did update to the new firmware today but I think I just never noticed the tail light was off.

[Tawpie]

On 5/17/2022 at 11:07 PM, Wolverine said:

I am asking this because last month I tried a friend's Inmotion V11 and it was completely strange to ride with it, because he had quite different settings and different air pressure in the suspension compared to my V11. The point of the story is that you can tweak the V11 so that each one feels unique.

I have to chuckle... when the V11 first came out a local rider who describes himself as "large" offered it to me to ride (he was slimming down from 260). Being of the definitely not-large persuasion, I was guessing that the suspension would be a rock and I'd feel like I was on top of an extension ladder and would surely drop his brand new baby. So I've never ridden one.

I figure with suspension wheels, if you don't go through the entire setup process for yourself, you'll get misled pretty badly by just hopping on someone else's wheel. And even then, you'll want to fiddle with it it as you go—the IM setting options are crazy these days. Too many perhaps (too many for my attention span), but once you understand what they do, I'd bet it's pretty sweet.

[Zopper]

6 hours ago, Paradox said:

I have a question about the tail light.  Does it only work if the head light is on?  Is there a setting in the app to always have the tail light on?   I just noticed my brake light only lights up if the front light is on.  I did update to the new firmware today but I think I just never noticed the tail light was off.

Yes, light must be on. Turn on Day Running Light (DLR) to be seen but to not blind others with the high beam.

A tip: if you hold the cut-off switch and press the power button shortly, it will toggle DLR instead of the high beam. Works during the ride as well: the cut-off button does nothing when over 2 or so km/h so you can hold it safely.

[idzspeed]

Updated the firmware without problems on Android.

Any ideas how the new split ride mode works? Are they percentage modifiers of the original pedal sensitivity, or do they work as their own sensitivities for speeding and braking, while overriding the original sensititivity? Why it seems unclear to me is that the original sensitivity stays enabled and can be changed while the split ride mode is enabled.

Haven't rode the wheel yet after the upgrade.

[Djal]

8 minutes ago, idzspeed said:

Updated the firmware without problems on Android.

Any ideas how the new split ride mode works? Are they percentage modifiers of the original pedal sensitivity, or do they work as their own sensitivities for speeding and braking, while overriding the original sensititivity? Why it seems unclear to me is that the original sensitivity stays enabled and can be changed while the split ride mode is enabled.

Haven't rode the wheel yet after the upgrade.

 

[onkeldanuel]

21 minutes ago, idzspeed said:

Updated the firmware without problems on Android.

Any ideas how the new split ride mode works? Are they percentage modifiers of the original pedal sensitivity, or do they work as their own sensitivities for speeding and braking, while overriding the original sensititivity? Why it seems unclear to me is that the original sensitivity stays enabled and can be changed while the split ride mode is enabled.

Haven't rode the wheel yet after the upgrade.

I believe they Work in additional to the global Pedal Sensitivity Setting where with Split Ride Mode Setting activated the neutralpoint is 50% for braking and speeding and from there you can adapt Up or down for each seperately

At least this was my Feeling when i tried all These settings out

 

 

 

Edited May 21, 2022 by onkeldanuel

[idzspeed]

17 minutes ago, Djal said:

 

 

7 minutes ago, onkeldanuel said:

I believe they Work in additional to the global Pedal Sensitivity Setting where with Split Ride Mode Setting activated the neutralpoint is 50% for braking and speeding and from there you can adapt Up or down for each seperately

At least this was my Feeling when i tried all These settings out

Thanks for answers. A bit confusing, but I guess then if I wanted to e.g making braking a bit easier without adjusting speeding, I would set:

* Speeding - 50%
* Braking - 30%

[onkeldanuel]

9 minutes ago, idzspeed said:

 

Thanks for answers. A bit confusing, but I guess then if I wanted to e.g making braking a bit easier without adjusting speeding, I would set:

* Speeding - 50%
* Braking - 30%

With this the braking would turn "Softer" and If thats easier for you with braking then yes

Edited May 21, 2022 by onkeldanuel

[Richardo]

12 hours ago, Tawpie said:

Being of the definitely not-large persuasion, I was guessing that the suspension would be a rock and I'd feel like I was on top of an extension ladder

This is a good point… I feel like I read on here that @ShanesPlanet is a distinctly un-American weight, too

[Zopper]

15 hours ago, Paradox said:

So any feedback on the new firmware released today?  I have heard very little so far. 

I did some 30 km off-road today right after an update. About 27 Wh/km, max power was 4361 W (67 A) spike, max braking -2008 W. I didn't see any difference in the behaviour except for the split mode.

[Paradox]

WrongWay states there is no passive cell balancing in any InMotion wheels.  Is this true?  Video time stamped.

 

[fbhb]

Inmotion have responded today on Facebook to the recent "Out Of The Box" V11 fire:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/666662156765084/?multi_permalinks=5113961562035099&hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen&__cft__[0]=AZVxwSdlxWrN2DrCwQIaWRkpGjAda0nPQxJaIM9ZCSk36gqQSg5JIkJ3Mv5v7Fjpitu2JAKUrh4Ndocsj8O7mXi1R_2kphD52gatyzjGaJeX8Np4R0xzOII9RC0MMx5pAacXlQo6tfyrAmeWok1vWCYOKKv4E2JOAuWBZzk88aZ9LRktMLZLNb3EV4DieqYZ2NA&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R

Edited May 21, 2022 by fbhb

[Wolverine]

19 hours ago, Paradox said:

WrongWay states there is no passive cell balancing in any InMotion wheels.  Is this true?  Video time stamped.

 

Unfortunately, that is incorrect statement from WrongWay because in some Inmotion wheels passive cell balancing does exist. Please look at this post and picture:

 

[Wakestrap]

Hey! Just bought my first EUC and went with the V11 as it was constantly recommended as a fantastic all around wheel. I want to think I’ll end up on something more off-road/trail focused but I’m going to try crawling before I walk.

One thing this forum has made abundantly clear is the V11 Can be adjusted and tweaked to meet a given riders style. Are there any good resources/videos for initial setup as well as anything that covers the more advanced adjustments that I’ll appreciate after the first hundred kms or so? I’m beyond excited to start this adventure.

[mrelwood]

On 5/21/2022 at 11:14 AM, idzspeed said:

Any ideas how the new split ride mode works? Are they percentage modifiers of the original pedal sensitivity, or do they work as their own sensitivities for speeding and braking, while overriding the original sensititivity?

I haven’t tested the new 1.4.13 thoroughly yet, but did so on the 1.4.0 that introduced this feature.

 The split sliders are not a direct percentage, and all three sliders work in conjunction with each other. Split sliders at 0 (or at 100) the overall sensitivity still has an effect, so the sliders are simply a percentage of an unspecified range of adjustment, not an absolute percentage.

 What I found interesting is that a setting of 40/100/100 (overall/acceleration/braking) and something like 80/0/0 seem to have a comparable hardness, but the behavior was still somehow different. So unfortunately you simply need to try out various settings in order to find one that suits you the best. I’m currently liking 50-60 /60/40 a lot.

 

On 5/21/2022 at 4:10 PM, Paradox said:

WrongWay states there is no passive cell balancing in any InMotion wheels.  Is this true?

Not true. I replied in the linked thread in detail, but the rumor is not true based on how balance issues can still be fixed by pumping the balancing, how close to each other my own battery cells were, and Inmotion’s response to my direct question about the matter.

 Rumors simply never die.

[mrelwood]

 

5 hours ago, Wakestrap said:

Are there any good resources/videos for initial setup as well as anything that covers the more advanced adjustments that I’ll appreciate after the first hundred kms or so?

I made a video to help with pumping the shocks. Although, I now prefer to put 50-60 psi on the top chambers no matter where the bottom chambers are at.

For the pedal sensitivity, I suggest you turn off the split mode until you get a decent grasp on how the single adjustment effects the ride. A sensitivity setting of 70 Commuter mode would be a good start. But don’t be afraid to try different ones, even as soon as you get to actual riding!

 Here’s a video explaining the sensitivity setting in general:

 

[Hellkitten]

@Wakestrapcongrats on the new adventures! I started on a V11 as well, still riding it. 

I weigh around 150-155 pounds. As @mrelwood mentioned I also have settled on 50/60 psi for the top chambers and the lower ones I use 140psi. I also found a super soft setting was easier to learn on, I’ve since switched to 100% stiffness on the pedals. The soft setting does give you a lot of pedal dipping and your headlight is shining all over the place. The stiff setting changes that, but I find my feet get more sore faster.  

Good luck with the new hobby! Everyone here was very helpful when I was struggling.......... push through the first few days of uphill battle. It’s worth it. 🤘🏽🤘🏽

Edited May 23, 2022 by Hellkitten

[Wolverine]

13 hours ago, Wakestrap said:

Hey! Just bought my first EUC and went with the V11 as it was constantly recommended as a fantastic all around wheel. I want to think I’ll end up on something more off-road/trail focused but I’m going to try crawling before I walk.

One thing this forum has made abundantly clear is the V11 Can be adjusted and tweaked to meet a given riders style. Are there any good resources/videos for initial setup as well as anything that covers the more advanced adjustments that I’ll appreciate after the first hundred kms or so? I’m beyond excited to start this adventure.

Welcome to the forum!

When I bought my Inmotion V11, I used these posts to get the settings more or less correct and started changing them until it felt good:

There are even polls, click the button below them to see answers of what settings riders are using.

The V11 manual states that the tire pressure should be 2.8 bar / 41 psi, so check that it is OK and change it if you feel that the tire is too soft or too hard.

The pedal has a table (as well as in the manual) on how to set up the air suspension. Usually, half of what is in the lower chamber is pumped into the upper chamber, but a range of 50-60 psi has been found to be good regardless of what is in the lower chamber.

I´m happy to see a new V11 rider!