Marty Backe Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Nils said: Argh, I feel for you! Hopefully the next board will "just work" But look on the bright side, you couldn't ask for better conditions to practice and level up on your stoicism Oh, I'm getting lots of stoic practice in 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jim Martin Posted July 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2019 Just got my replacement board in the mail, it doesn't have the jumper cable shown in the pictures going from the Red to the connection next to the lift switch. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jim Martin said: Just got my replacement board in the mail, it doesn't have the jumper cable shown in the pictures going from the Red to the connection next to the lift switch. Ug. Each board is "a little" different. Who knows, maybe the black jumper cable shouldn't be installed and that's my problem I would talk to Jason just in case. Unless you are equipped to fabricate you own cables/connectors, you're going to need that cable. Unless you don't (see above) Still haven't heard anything from @Jason McNeil. Let me know what you do and if it works. Another data-point is useful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nils Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: Ug. Each board is "a little" different. Who knows, maybe the black jumper cable shouldn't be installed and that's my problem I would talk to Jason just in case. Unless you are equipped to fabricate you own cables/connectors, you're going to need that cable. Unless you don't (see above) Still haven't heard anything from @Jason McNeil. Let me know what you do and if it works. Another data-point is useful. Hmm, yes something is off somewhere. As you said in your earlier post "He asked about the existence of the black jumper cable between the daughter board and the motherboard. Sounds like this was a suggestion from Gotway". What did he ask about the existence? That the connections were OK? Whether it existed? Obviously we now have one board that shipped without it. Would be great to hear from people with Nikolas and the new board such as @Patton250 whether their fans work, and ideally if anyone would feel up to opening their wheel and post a picture of a working assembled board. Though you said Jason would create a video, that should definitely help as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patton250 Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nils said: Hmm, yes something is off somewhere. As you said in your earlier post "He asked about the existence of the black jumper cable between the daughter board and the motherboard. Sounds like this was a suggestion from Gotway". What did he ask about the existence? That the connections were OK? Whether it existed? Obviously we now have one board that shipped without it. Would be great to hear from people with Nikolas and the new board such as @Patton250 whether their fans work, and ideally if anyone would feel up to opening their wheel and post a picture of a working assembled board. Though you said Jason would create a video, that should definitely help as well. Just got home. I’ll start soon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Nils said: Hmm, yes something is off somewhere. As you said in your earlier post "He asked about the existence of the black jumper cable between the daughter board and the motherboard. Sounds like this was a suggestion from Gotway". What did he ask about the existence? That the connections were OK? Whether it existed? Obviously we now have one board that shipped without it. Would be great to hear from people with Nikolas and the new board such as @Patton250 whether their fans work, and ideally if anyone would feel up to opening their wheel and post a picture of a working assembled board. Though you said Jason would create a video, that should definitely help as well. Jason literally wrote, "On the question about the fan activation, do you have the small black wire going from the connector on the lower right to the daughter board on yours?" This could be interpreted two ways I assumed the implication was that the cable should be there. But who knows. I'm tired of continually opening my wheel (at least we have proper machine screws now) so I'm going to wait for further word from someone. We're just about to start our 4th of July holiday weekend, so I may not get any additional information for another 5-days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Jim Martin said: Just got my replacement board in the mail, it doesn't have the jumper cable shown in the pictures going from the Red to the connection next to the lift switch. 1 hour ago, Marty Backe said: Ug. Each board is "a little" different. Who knows, maybe the black jumper cable shouldn't be installed and that's my problem I got tired of cocking my head and twisting my neck trying to understand this little jumper wire debacle. Marty’s Board Jim Martin’s Board 1 hour ago, Marty Backe said: I would talk to Jason just in case. Unless you are equipped to fabricate you own cables/connectors, you're going to need that cable. Unless you don't (see above) If the jumper wasn’t included and is required @Jim Martin could purchase a 2mm JST-PHR header connector plug kit from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07D241T3M/ref=sspa_mw_detail_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1 There appears to be 50 female connectors in the kit so if my math is correct he would have enough to fix 25 boards. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted July 3, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2019 In my Nikola down time, I painted it (no more white and black pedals). And I removed the crappy plastic imitation grip tape and replaced it with proper 3M Safety-Walk ($7) grip tape. 11 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Patton250 Posted July 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Marty Backe said: Still hoping that you can confirm that yours is running at a cool ~40-degrees Celsius. OK here we go. It’s 94°F here in wonderful Tampa Florida. I took the Nikola out for a ride for approximately 10 miles and the temperature never went above 43°C . You can hear the fan running. Anyway I assume it’s the fan. I hope this is somewhat helpful. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: In my Nikola down time, I painted it (no more white and black pedals). And I removed the crappy plastic imitation grip tape and replaced it with proper 3M Safety-Walk ($7) grip tape. Looks awesome! It expect you will be painting each of your god zillion wheels every other day once you retire. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kens Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 24 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: In my Nikola down time, I painted it (no more white and black pedals). And I removed the crappy plastic imitation grip tape and replaced it with proper 3M Safety-Walk ($7) grip tape. Looks.. stunning Literally a sleeping beauty 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, Patton250 said: OK here we go. It’s 94°F here in wonderful Tampa Florida. I took the Nikola out for a ride for approximately 10 miles and the temperature never went above 43°C . You can hear the fan running. Anyway I assume it’s the fan. I hope this is somewhat helpful. That is very helpful. Thank you. I have to assume that I received a dud control board. Really bad luck Thanks again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kens said: Looks.. stunning Literally a sleeping beauty You're a real wise-ass 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 24 minutes ago, Rehab1 said: Looks awesome! It expect you will be painting each of your god zillion wheels every other day once you retire. Only the ugly ones that Gotway still manages to produce. They really need to retire "that guy", whoever he is 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLinux Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Marty Backe said: In my Nikola down time, I painted it (no more white and black pedals). And I removed the crappy plastic imitation grip tape and replaced it with proper 3M Safety-Walk ($7) grip tape. @Duf I would like to get this press-fit version of the stand, but it's not listed on your website. Is it possible to order this, or did you stop making it? I'd like to get this blue and black one if possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLinux Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Marty Backe said: In my Nikola down time, I painted it (no more white and black pedals). And I removed the crappy plastic imitation grip tape and replaced it with proper 3M Safety-Walk ($7) grip tape. Wow, that was the perfect use of this down time! This really looks luxurious! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Marty Backe said: In my Nikola down time, I painted it (no more white and black pedals). And I removed the crappy plastic imitation grip tape and replaced it with proper 3M Safety-Walk ($7) grip tape. did you paint the inside of the shell?? looks great why the hell cant they switch to black pedals already.. almost all of their wheels are all black, why no black pedals??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Rywokast said: did you paint the inside of the shell?? looks great why the hell cant they switch to black pedals already.. almost all of their wheels are all black, why no black pedals??? Thanks. All I painted was the two white outer bands that you can see on the stock Nikola. I didn't touch the translucent side panels. And painted the pedals of course. Yeah, KingSong black anodizes their pedals. Time for Gotway to do the same. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted July 4, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 Unintended Range Test I took the Nikola for a 3+ hour ride this afternoon. The temperature hovered at ~60-degrees the whole time. So I certainly can't ride the wheel wherever there are hills, but it'll due for flatlander riding. I managed 43-miles with ~20-percent battery remaining. I did have to baby the speed to make it back. So my initial impressions are that this wheel is not a power miser, i.e., it consumes power at a noticeably higher rate than the MSX or other 1600wh wheels. Here I am visiting the Queen Mary 6 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbolest Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 55 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: Unintended Range Test I took the Nikola for a 3+ hour ride this afternoon. The temperature hovered at ~60-degrees the whole time. So I certainly can't ride the wheel wherever there are hills, but it'll due for flatlander riding. I managed 43-miles with ~20-percent battery remaining. I did have to baby the speed to make it back. So my initial impressions are that this wheel is not a power miser, i.e., it consumes power at a noticeably higher rate than the MSX or other 1600wh wheels. Here I am visiting the Queen Mary What made you decide to take it out after all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nils Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 9 hours ago, Marty Backe said: In my Nikola down time, I painted it (no more white and black pedals). And I removed the crappy plastic imitation grip tape and replaced it with proper 3M Safety-Walk ($7) grip tape. Looks fantastic! What type of paint did you use for the parts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, Arbolest said: What made you decide to take it out after all? It's been almost 3-weeks and I really wanted to ride it. I figured if I'm not hitting any hills the temperature won't get too high, and I was right. The Nikola is such a nice riding wheel. 1 minute ago, Nils said: Looks fantastic! What type of paint did you use for the parts? I use RUST-OLEUM Ultra spray paint for all my wheels. High Gloss Black for the shell and Flat Black for the pedals. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUC Custom Power-Pads Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Arbolest said: I managed 43-miles with ~20-percent battery remaining. I did have to baby the speed to make it back. So my initial impressions are that this wheel is not a power miser, i.e., it consumes power at a noticeably higher rate than the MSX or other 1600wh wheels. 43 on flat terrain and slow down on return... that's not really impressive!? How far would you get with the MSX under the same conditions? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 In the end, the manufacturer decides how much power the wheel is allowed to draw for accelerations. There's no real natural state or upper limit, so it's a balancing act between instant torque/zippyness and (too) quick battery depletion. Maybe it's too early to tell, but could it be the Nikola simply draws more power by design so it rides more dynamically? As opposed to a more delayed and sedate behavior that a factually 18 incher like it would have (how much bigger is a 18x2.5 tire diameter really)? Marty (or anybody else), can you tell if this might be the case? Is the nice Nikola ride simply due to more instant oomph like a smaller wheel (but with the advantages of the bigger tire as well)? Did they just brute force in more power compared to wheels till now? I wonder how the reportedly more torque-y 16X will do it. Will it also have less range than expected? Will they have limiters that make the wheel feel weaker as soon as a high power draw doesn't go away immediately? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anagnorisis Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) @Marty Backe did you end up making that black jumper cable? I was following the thread but didn't know if you did or not. And it also sounds like you have a dud new board. Is that correct? Edited July 4, 2019 by Anagnorisis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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