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  1. Nils

    Inmotion V10 fire.

    Was the seal missing though? My (very possibly misinformed) understanding was that the seal wasn't missing in the first batch, but that it was not strong enough, and that later batches just used a stronger seal. But then the question is, how strong and durable is the new seal? If it lasts forever and never frays or breaks then all is good. However, if there's a potential for it to degrade and break over time, with the same disastrous consequences we've seen so far, then another sealing barrier seems like a very good idea. For what it's worth I seem to remember from the ecodrift autopsy that the V10F battery wrap at least on that model wasn't fully satisfactory either (they compared it to the the KS18L battery where the wrap joints where fully sealed).
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    New Inmotion V10 (V8 Fast)

    Well I did think about writing a post saying I tried it in the bathtub after reading your post and was then devastated to find that it didn't work for me, but didn't want to give you a scare
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    Inmotion V10 fire.

    Here's the post from @Jeffrey Scott Will where he links to the instructions following the kit:
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    Inmotion V10 fire.

    Yes, it's nice to see that divisions other than Inmotion USA is following suit. The casing will fit, but if I recall correctly when looking at some previous instructions (from somewhere in the V10F thread IIRC, don't have it accessible) you might have to remove some smaller plastic dividers or similar. Nothing big though. Here's a pic of the new casing from another thread in the forum:
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    Inmotion V10 fire.

    Thanks! Yes, as you say the most important thing is that you're all right, but even so it would be a shame to see you having to accept being out of 1700 euros as a result of this.. Exactly what happened with the 125XXX wheels I don't know, but from what little information I've seen there seem to have been something amiss for Inmotion France's order (relevant post linked below). My understanding of the seal is that they switched to a stronger seal for later batches out of the factory, but if you're going to install the battery casing you need to split the wheel and remove the existing seal, regardless of the quality of it. Anyway, it doesn't matter for water proofing it you agree that just the seal, no matter how strong, will not be enough. The battery casing is so far (that I know of) only being installed installed on wheels from Inmotion USA or from eWheels however, so there are lots of wheels out there with the stronger seal which are considered by Inmotion globally (not Inmotion USA) as good enough. Hence my interest in knowing more about your wheel.
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    Inmotion V10 fire.

    @Fastmike In order to get a correct understanding of the current situation, could you please clarify whether your 125XXX wheel was one of the mislabelled first-batch wheels (e.g. one of those on the later released list of serials)? I'm with @Jason McNeil and Inmotion USA regardless in that a battery casing is needed, and will make sure to get one myself somehow, but it would be very interesting to know whether your had the stronger seal or not. It would be first case I've heard of that in that case, and clearly indicating that the stronger seal is not sufficient.
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    New Inmotion V10 (V8 Fast)

    If you're referring to @Rehab1's submerged picture above then you're right, that was a joke. A slightly dangerous one in my opinion, but then I guess @Rehab1's faith in his fellow humans exceed mine
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    Inmotion V10 fire.

    I agree with you! The official line from Inmotion global still seems to be that the stronger seal is sufficient however. Thus it would be very interesting to know whether your wheel was one of those mislabelled first-batch wheels or from an ordinary 125xxx batch.
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    Inmotion V10 fire.

    Well, same here, my wheel is a 125xxx produced end of May.. I know that Inmotion France had a shipment of first-batch wheels that had been incorrectly given 125xxx serial numbers. Was your one these (relevant comment linked below)? If not, this would be the first instance of a wheel with the stronger seal catching fire that I've heard of.
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    Inmotion V10 fire.

    I don't recall whether you said so earlier, but you had a first-batch wheel I guess? And no direct communication from Inmotion about the issue at all? Really, really bad. And yes, when the wheel explodes I would expect that they would stretch over backwards to make things right, not treat it like some ordinary malfunction complaint. Also, it makes me wonder how many cases there are actually out there since they seem intent on hushing things up as well as they can. Here's a new V10F slogan I'd humbly like to suggest for consideration: V10F: In motion and on fire!
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    Inmotion V10 fire.

    Oh man.. I'm glad that you're all all right, and that you were knowledgeable about this issue and able to get the wheel to a safe place! I fear that not everyone will be as well informed.
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    Inmotion V10 fire.

    Many thanks for your input Jason. Yeah, this discrepancy has nagged me for some time, and the additional report from @Steve just again highlights the potential disastrous consequences. Even though his wheel was from the first batch the later batches just provides a stronger silicon seal, and it seems to me that it's just a matter of time before time and wear will cause that to fail as well for some wheels. Inmotion is really playing fast and loose with peoples lives here, will it really require a fatal fire ending someone's life before they do something? I'll pursue this on my front, but the sad fact seems to be that Inmotion Global is unfortunately not owning up to this at all, and you can't even get in contact with them. Not only that, but in my case, having bought it from AliExpress, they're explicitly trying to shirk any responsibility whatsoever (it's apparently OK if you buy it from their store on AliExpress, and the prices there are the same as on other stores, so..). Well, I'm not buying it, they have responsibility as manufacturers, and they need to deal with it responsibly. This is just such a train wreck..
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    Inmotion V10 fire.

    Are you saying you've had your V10F catch fire as well?
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    Inmotion V10 fire.

    Well I certainly won't disagree if you say communication from Inmotion could be better as they in my view they have some serious work to do in that department. In this case the OP says he was contacted about the recall though. Perhaps the advisory should have been more strongly worded to fully enforce the seriousness of the situation (I don't have it in front of me now), but there was information sent at least. The water ingress issue is said to affect only the first batch (serial 124XX..), where later batches should be fine. However, the upcoming shipment of V10Fs within the US will have extra protection installed (a proper battery casing), whereas the other batches (including my 125XX..) just have a stronger seal from the factory. So the stronger seal is deemed enough, except for the newer wheels sold in the US where it apparently is not enough. It remains to be seen whether we'll see more stories of these potentially life-threatening fires for wheels from newer batches as well that only have the stronger seal. It's not a pleasant thought at any rate, so I'll definitely keep a close eye on mine, and wouldn't leave it charging unattended.
  15. I'm surprised to hear this - my understanding was that the KS18L was much more quiet than the earlier KS wheels. Yes, the MSX is really quiet, good work by Gotway there (and I understand the Tesla is quiet as well). As someone said (Marty?) Gotway seems to have found the secret sauce when it comes to noise reduction. As for the noise of the V10F compared to the KS16 I strongly disagree (those two wheels are the ones I own), and I'd say the V10F is a quiet blessing in comparison. But perhaps this is one example of the pitch vs volume thing, I find the noise from the KS16 very irritating but not so the one from the V10F, and I guess that comes down to the different frequencies of the sounds emitted.
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