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My 84-volt Nikola Triumphs, Tribulations, and Failures


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1 minute ago, buell47 said:

I don't think I'd want to spray any substance directly on the speakers, but I know you're saying this in jest :lol:

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16 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

Thanks @Dzlchef for blazing the path here :cheers:

 

Thanks for sharing Marty.

Are these 2 inch 4Ohm 12W replacement speakers? (See attached file)

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25 minutes ago, wongster said:

Thanks for sharing Marty.

Are these 2 inch 4Ohm 12W replacement speakers? (See attached file)

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I think so. If you watch my video on YouTube and look in the Description, I have Amazon links to the speakers and fabric that I actually used.

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3 hours ago, wongster said:

Thanks for sharing Marty.

Are these 2 inch 4Ohm 12W replacement speakers? (See attached file)

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Looks like the correct speaker. Cross holes should be 60mm if same. Original speaker is slightly larger at 63mm, but the replacement fits. 

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16 hours ago, Nils said:

I installed the new board in my Nikola today and shot some video. I'm away on vacation up north and apparently forgot my computer and have crappy Internet, but I'll try to get something uploaded. It won't be a great inspirational video I fear but slow TV of a man installing a board, but hopefully it will be helpful in some way to some others wanting to replace their boards.

Haven't yet had the chance to burn it in, but seems to work fine with headlights and everything else. Will update with info and video when possible.

 

I posted a link to the video now in the other Nikola thread:

 

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On 7/13/2019 at 9:31 PM, Marty Backe said:

Thanks @Dzlchef for blazing the path here :cheers:

 

Wow man amazing video. Few questions.  How is the music now? Does it sound better? Also that ground wire, are you saying that it hooked up to the speakers you replaced?   It’s not needed for the new speakers? Do you have a video of you taking the wheel cover off? I’m not sure how to do that. You make this project look pretty simple and I’m willing to do it if you feel  the benefits are there. Thanks Marty. 

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9 hours ago, Patton250 said:

Wow man amazing video. Few questions.  How is the music now? Does it sound better? Also that ground wire, are you saying that it hooked up to the speakers you replaced?   It’s not needed for the new speakers? Do you have a video of you taking the wheel cover off? I’m not sure how to do that. You make this project look pretty simple and I’m willing to do it if you feel  the benefits are there. Thanks Marty. 

I don't know 100-percent regarding the "ground wire". It's a cable that comes from the speaker module and feeds the original Nikola fan but is not used on the new Nikola control board.

If you look at my Nikola Playlist, I believe I had some video of me opening the wheel in the second half of my Mountain Stress test video. I believe @Nils Nikola control board replacement video that he just released last week, has some content for opening the wheel.

Yes, the sound has more bass with the new speakers. Hard to say objectively whether it's worth it to you. But I didn't mind doing the work for getting an incremental improvement in sound.

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53 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

The Nikola was looking beautiful with the spinning lights in the dark

Damn... @Marty Backe... why can't you keep that to yourself? Future owners of the bulky 16X don't want to hear that! :furious::cry2:

But I have to admit... it really looks especially f...ing awesome at night! :thumbup:

Okay...back to overheat face plant .... ähmmm I mean hill test! :roflmao:

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1 minute ago, buell47 said:

Damn... @Marty Backe... why can't you keep that to yourself? Future owners of the bulky 16X don't want to hear that! :furious::cry2:

But I have to admit... it really looks especially f...ing awesome at night! :thumbup:

thats the second reason i chose the nikola over the 16x.. first reason was 2100 wh baby

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4 minutes ago, Rywokast said:

thats the second reason i chose the nikola over the 16x.. first reason was 2100 wh baby 

If I didn't have the Inmotion V8, my decision would probably have been made in favour of the Nikola!
Unfortunately, I've now seen what such a case looks like after a few off-road tours, if you don't protect it.

I can no longer count how often I have polished the side parts with a machine...very often...the inmotion logo is at least no longer visible! :laughbounce2:

I had the original protective cover on it for 2 days, until I noticed that the dirt still comes in between and scratches everything.

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Great video Marty! Great summary, great explanation, great ride. Your area is somehow a wonderful place to explore and a bleak, sun-scorched concretescape at the same time. But you definitely have some nice routes there!

The battery percentage is just linearly interpolated from the voltage compared to the (manufacturer-chosen) 100% and 0% voltages.

45 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

Of particular note is that I'm getting the range that I would have expected for this 1600wh wheel. Originally I was reporting power consumption to be higher than average. Turns out that WheelLog was the problem. It's reporting values 10 to 15 percent too low.

Maybe Gotway reduced their 0% voltage just like KS did? What voltage does Wheellog report when you're at low battery? What percentage does the Gotway app show, same as Wheellog?

If that's true, the Nikola might be less efficient (the higher currents you saw) but they compensated for that by allowing for more battery depletion. What range did you get on the 18XL again?

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Looking forward to your new overheat hill test. And the 100V!

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7 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said:

Great video Marty! Great summary, great explanation, great ride. Your area is somehow a wonderful place to explore and a bleak, sun-scorched concretescape at the same time. But you definitely have some nice routes there!

The battery percentage is just linearly interpolated from the voltage compared to the (manufacturer-chosen) 100% and 0% voltages.

Maybe Gotway reduced their 0% voltage just like KS did? What voltage does Wheellog report when you're at low battery? What percentage does the Gotway app show, same as Wheellog?

If that's true, the Nikola might be less efficient (the higher currents you saw) but they compensated for that by allowing for more battery depletion. What range did you get on the 18XL again?

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Looking forward to your new overheat hill test. And the 100V!

I'm afraid I still don't pay attention to the voltages. For me, all I care about is what the wheel allows me to do. According to WheelLog I shouldn't be able to ride the wheel yet I'm cruising at 18-mph no problem.

The XL gave me a bit over 60-miles but I quit "early" because of what WheelLog was telling me. I haven't gotten around o repeating the 4+ hour test again.

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1 hour ago, Marty Backe said:

Here's a video summary of my new control board (first installed 3-weeks ago) and my first formal range test completed a couple of days ago.

Of particular note is that I'm getting the range that I would have expected for this 1600wh wheel. Originally I was reporting power consumption to be higher than average. Turns out that WheelLog was the problem. It's reporting values 10 to 15 percent too low. Towards the end of the video you will see that I'm at ~1-percent battery according to WheelLog but I have over 15-percent battery according to the Gotway hardware.

Using my standard range route that I use for all of these tests, I achieved ~54-miles (180-pound riding weight). 50 of those miles were with no practical restrictions (within my self-imposed speed range of 18 to 22 mph).

84-volt Nikola Range Test

 

84-volt Nikola Range Test

 

 

Great video like always Marty :thumbup: Can't wait to see the range test result videos on the 100V / 1845Wh in a few days and 84V / 2100Wh in 4 weeks time:popcorn: Soon we'll have all 3 range results from the same rider :smartass: If he is willing to accept these assignments? ;)

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20 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

I'm afraid I still don't pay attention to the voltages.

All that's needed is one combination of voltage and battery percentage (as low as possible, but anything under 75% should be good enough) as given by Wheellog. So just make a screenshot once your battery has been used a bit (maybe after your next ride). Then we can figure out what the likely 0% voltage is and have an answer.

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9 minutes ago, Dave U said:

Hobbyist fly RC Model Airplanes at this location so I believe it's a safety net.

Exactly :thumbup:

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16 minutes ago, Dave U said:

Hobbyist fly RC Model Airplanes at this location so I believe it's a safety net.

Oh, I used to fly r/c planes. But that was in Orange County where they believe safety nets are socialism, so they don't have 'em.

:roflmao:

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