Popular Post Kuji Rolls Posted June 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2019 5 hours ago, mrelwood said: CST is a manufacturer, and KingSong is likely switching back to the C-1488 model that was seen in an early prototype. And which is equipped in Gotway Nikola as well. And Msuper V3 before that. Can confirm. This is a pic KS sent me. Looks like itll be better for off-roading. 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Adel said: This is exactly the kind of reassuring information (wherever its source) that Kingsong should be publishing far and wide to keep potential shoppers from bailing out on the KS16X. To make it clear...there is Nothing to hide! As i have said KS wants todo the 16X as best as possible. You will not find any Point on this list, that i havent discussed here lately or in the past….nonetheless it makes no sense to publish documents that are just short notes for Special receivers and not everyone knows the Background of These feedback. very often in These english lists there are parts where you have to ask back, because in Translation from engineer to only english speaking Person in KS who made this list something has gone wrong…. and so would only confuse or be wronginformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel-Son Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 When Kuji Rolls did his first video with the 16X prototype, there was high density side LED lights. And now the preproduction has low density LED lights. Now kingsong is making last minute changes, will they bring back the high density LED? I don’t particularly like the preproduction lights, they look a little outdated compared to the Nikola. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I think it would have been cool if KS used the front side "vents" for front wide low range white headlight. And had the long/mid range headlight where the headlight is now. Then using a red high placed break and rear red light. While using rear side vents for red road area possition/night highlight. But I am sure it will be great model despite not having my light wish. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kens Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 25 minutes ago, Unventor said: I think it would have been cool if KS used the front side "vents" for front wide low range white headlight. And had the long/mid range headlight where the headlight is now. Then using a red high placed break and rear red light. While using rear side vents for red road area possition/night highlight. But I am sure it will be great model despite not having my light wish. Hmm maybe on 3rd batch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VK-Durt Crissant Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 On 6/26/2019 at 9:58 AM, Kuji Rolls said: Can confirm. This is a pic KS sent me. Looks like itll be better for off-roading. Wow! Great tire! Very interested in whether the pedals KS-16x holes suitable for the installation of studs-screws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrie Lim Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/27/2019 at 11:57 AM, Daniel-Son said: When Kuji Rolls did his first video with the 16X prototype, there was high density side LED lights. And now the preproduction has low density LED lights. Now kingsong is making last minute changes, will they bring back the high density LED? I don’t particularly like the preproduction lights, they look a little outdated compared to the Nikola. I prefer the lights now compared to the ones seen in the first kuji rolls 16X video. That one just looks aweful, like a shoddy diy job. The latest design looks cleaner and more presentable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unventor Posted June 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 I have not seen any yet posting this. My apologies if I missed it and double post it. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Unventor said: I have not seen any yet posting this. My apologies if I missed it and double post it. Interesting that he also complained about the flat pedals, and it looked like their wheel had even worse vibration issues. You have to wonder why KingSong didn't wait a little bit more so they could have sent better wheels out for pre-reviews 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unventor Posted June 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Marty Backe said: Interesting that he also complained about the flat pedals, and it looked like their wheel had even worse vibration issues. You have to wonder why KingSong didn't wait a little bit more so they could have sent better wheels out for pre-reviews I agree that it looks like they were too keen to meet schedule, to minimize GW got the upper edge, by using (too ) fast assemble methods to hit market early. ** I am glad they postponed production to fix the point they found fixable. But it means I get to test the new firmware v1.13 for KS18L more, as the KS16X will not arrive until my summer vacation is over. That is the beauty (most of the time) that firmware can rejuvenate a wheel to feel more modern. Edited June 30, 2019 by Unventor ** refering to Gluegate, I think that type of shortcut, should hit manufactor hard as it put rider at risk. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) So have anyone heard anything more if KS have decided to make the seat or not, and if not how likely is it we will see 3party options for this? @Jason McNeil or @US69? I got an update on eta on my wheel as in early August (Europe) but no other major details that have not already been discussed here at forum earlier. But apparently the high speed rocking back and forth should now have been fix, it should not be a motor issue but firmware related, plus ture change should provide better tide comfort. Edited July 2, 2019 by Unventor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 28 minutes ago, Unventor said: So have anyone heard anything more if KS have decided to make the seat or not, and if not how likely is it we will see 3party options for this? @Jason McNeil or @US69? I got an update on eta on my wheel as in early August (Europe) but no other major details that have not already been discussed here at forum earlier. But apparently the high speed rocking back and forth should now have been fix, it should not be a motor issue but firmware related, plus ture change should provide better tide comfort. Has KingSong ever made a seat for their diagonal trolley handles? I wouldn't hold your breath. And historically seats have only been made for 18-inch and larger wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unventor Posted July 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Marty Backe said: Has KingSong ever made a seat for their diagonal trolley handles? I wouldn't hold your breath. And historically seats have only been made for 18-inch and larger wheels. Well if you look back you will see it has been on the table and that both @Jason McNeil and @US69 have been pushing for it to happen. Since KS16X has a different inner structure it could support this, where KS18L/XL didn't have the ability to transfer stress on top of case in the same way. The height of KS16X and KS18L/XL is the same which is about the same as MSX I think. Why I would like to have a seat? Because it is something I don't have yet and with the extra range it would make it possible for me with my bad knees to rest them a little on longer rides. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Unventor said: Well if you look back you will see it has been on the table and that both @Jason McNeil and @US69 have been pushing for it to happen. Since KS16X has a different inner structure it could support this, where KS18L/XL didn't have the ability to transfer stress on top of case in the same way. The height of KS16X and KS18L/XL is the same which is about the same as MSX I think. Why I would like to have a seat? Because it is something I don't have yet and with the extra range it would make it possible for me with my bad knees to rest them a little on longer rides. idk its already teetering on the edge of an 18" classification, some websites even call it that.. the only thing from preventing that is the size of the rim but the actual tire and the bulk of the unit are as big or larger than most 18" eucs already.. from the looks of it that shell can easily handle a seat, looks pretty bulletproof especially if youve seen it disassembled, it would be the easiest thing in the world for them to make a foam seat like the MSX i cant understand what would possibly be holding them back, like whats it cost five dollars to produce a seat that you can sell for 100 lmao cmon already.. almost as bad as gotway charging 30 USD for a mudguard worth ten cents that should have been included with every wheel.. i mean the wheel isnt as dainty and has a flush handle, not like the 18L where its understandable not to have a seat since it would be 100% on a thin telescoping handle lol Edited July 3, 2019 by Rywokast 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFZ Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 9 hours ago, Unventor said: Well if you look back you will see it has been on the table and that both @Jason McNeil and @US69 have been pushing for it to happen. Since KS16X has a different inner structure it could support this, where KS18L/XL didn't have the ability to transfer stress on top of case in the same way. The height of KS16X and KS18L/XL is the same which is about the same as MSX I think. Why I would like to have a seat? Because it is something I don't have yet and with the extra range it would make it possible for me with my bad knees to rest them a little on longer rides. I remember someone dislike the power button on the front panel, instead of near the handle. I'm thinking if you are planning on having a seat, you would design it where you wouldn't be sitting on it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, DragonFZ said: I remember someone dislike the power button on the front panel, instead of near the handle. I'm thinking if you are planning on having a seat, you would design it where you wouldn't be sitting on it. On some of the first rendered pictures, they had a display under the handle. It didn't make it to a live model. But might be why they also placed power button where it is. Some of the early ideas are still there, but this is how it is with concept car design too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post US69 Posted July 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) On 6/30/2019 at 10:26 AM, Marty Backe said: Interesting that he also complained about the flat pedals, and it looked like their wheel had even worse vibration issues. You have to wonder why KingSong didn't wait a little bit more so they could have sent better wheels out for pre-reviews Motor vibration is allready fixed by firmware upgrade...and yeah, here a fault happend, a slight motor change wasnt taken over into firmware from prototype to pre-prod model. The pedals are just the typical iteration...as it needs other molded or CNC’ed pedals or pedal arms it just took a bit time. The main fault is that they didnt adress this to the pre—prod receivers..that this will be changed on final version as they allready had that planned. than this wouldnt be such a big topic...Communications from China still not perfect...and thats a understatement :-) 19 hours ago, Marty Backe said: Has KingSong ever made a seat for their diagonal trolley handles? I wouldn't hold your breath. And historically seats have only been made for 18-inch and larger wheels. Ok, i dont know if it would EVER make sense todo a seat for 14s/16s...as these are so small :-) But as @Unventor said....here for the 16X a seat was discussed, as the model from general form goes into 18S direction....and so a bit higher seat would make sense. You would come near to 18S dimension with it, and that is actually great for seated riding. 18L never received a seat, was never planned...shell is not wide enough and does not have enough space to make a stable seat possible. The reason is NOT that the shell is not stable enough....the 18L/Xl inner shell and pedal arm are actually more stable/thicker than the 18A/S shell versions. It is just the narrow design... Unfortunatly it is as always....time is running away...and IT SEAMS a seat for 16x will -if at all- only been done later. Edited July 3, 2019 by US69 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unventor Posted July 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, US69 said: Unfortunatly it is as always....time is running away...and IT SEAMS a seat will -if at all- only been done later. Well I bought the KS16X already. But I really hope KS understand making a seat, will help it to stand out to the Nikola as it doesn't have this option. As for MSX it might even move some of those sales to KS. I really think KS will miss a great opportunity for something that is easy and cheap to make that can sell for added profit. I would ask for small accessories that widen custom target group any time when working with sales. People don't look as much at price. A great example is Jason pedals... I seen a lot of people here referring to having bought those here at forum. @Jason McNeil I hope we get a Jason seat too 😉 Edited July 3, 2019 by Unventor 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 A quick question.... Is there anyone that have see the disign of out to take off the out shell of the KS16X? The hole point to this is how many pieces it consists of and how many parts to paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Unventor said: Is there anyone that have see the disign of out to take off the out shell of the KS16X? Maybe this EcoDrift disassembly helps: https://ecodrift.ru/2019/06/24/kingsong-ks-16x-disassembling/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarpMudd Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Another positive review with different perspectives from Netmotive Italia. Recensione KS16X - Monoruota Elettrico Monowheel 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meepmeepmayer Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2019 Hmm I think the carbon was a mistake. Matte black would have looked better. But the real culprit is the structure/pattern of the soft side pads. It ruins the entire look of an otherwise decent looking wheel The 16X would look much better with better side pads. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarpMudd Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: Hmm I think the carbon was a mistake. Matte black would have looked better. But the real culprit is the structure/pattern of the soft side pads. It ruins the entire look of an otherwise decent looking wheel The 16X would look much better with better side pads. I have to agree with you there, probably only looks great when you first pull it out of the box. Faux carbon looks bad once you get your first scuff on it. I wouldn't be surprised if there would be matte black shells available for purchase in the future. Edited July 5, 2019 by HarpMudd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelr Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 47 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: But the real culprit is the structure/pattern of the soft side pads. It ruins the entire look of an otherwise decent looking wheel The 16X would look much better with better side pads. Yeah I think those makes it look like a beetle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, wheelr said: Yeah I think those makes it look like a beetle It just looks old and worn and crappy. Or maybe melted. Like something was on there and this is the residue after it was pulled off. Hope it looks better in reality or gets replaced with something else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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