Rywokast Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, FreeRide said: He is probably not going to like that, and you'll likely get a call from the police or family services. ive seen lots of videos of 8-12 year old kids riding.. and pretty sure what was a 6 year old girl riding in china xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUC Custom Power-Pads Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 5 hours ago, MaxLinux said: I frequently ride my 18XL (previously MSuper V2 and IPS 191 Lhotz) for grocery shopping. I always take the EUC with me into the store, but instead of trolleying it in the store, I place it in the shopping cart. https://youtu.be/gBE2GC4UZWk?t=1001 That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen! Why the hell don't you at least drive to the entrance with the EUC and the shopping cart if you don't stay on the EUC while shopping and push the shopping cart with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenleetech Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) went for pretty chill late night ride, didn't want to get off, every now and then I need to stop because my feet fall asleep (like when you sit on toilet too long) not sure it's my shoes or position- today was the first day I got beeps, they scarred me a bit, came back and did some research trying to find out what they mean- is this a correct guide? (also watched the respect the beep video by miami) first speed alarm, 2 beeps per second second speed alarm, 3 beeps per second third speed alarm, 4 beeps per second 80% power alarm, 5 beeps per second(continuously non-stop beeping without pause) less than 7.2km/h, low voltage,1 beep every 2 seconds less than 14.4km/h, low voltage, 2 beeps every 2 seconds more than 14.4km/h, low voltage, 3 beeps every 2 seconds hall sensor defect, 2 beeps every 1/2 seconds PCB high temperature alarm, 2 short beep 2 seconds, tilt back to get rider off the EUC, tilting back and forward after stopped extreme low voltage power on,1 beep 1 second,totally 5 beep fall down,1 beep 1 second, total of 5 beeps over voltage, 3 short beep 2 second, tilt back when riding downhill The one that worried me the most was the three beeps, I wasn't going that fast, but was trying to accelerate rapidly Edited July 21, 2019 by zenleetech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meepmeepmayer Posted July 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 hour ago, zenleetech said: first speed alarm, 2 beeps per second default at 30kph second speed alarm, 3 beeps per second default at 35kph third speed alarm, 4 beeps per second doesn't exist third alarm = "80%" power alarm, 5 beeps per second(continuously non-stop beeping without pause) In fact this is just another speed alarm where the speed depends on the battery charge, see here (unfortunately no Nikola info with the numbers yet). I believe it's mainly derived from the motor torque limitations, therefore "80%" alarm. less than 7.2km/h, low voltage,1 beep every 2 seconds less than 14.4km/h, low voltage, 2 beeps every 2 seconds more than 14.4km/h, low voltage, 3 beeps every 2 seconds Slow beeps = battery beeps, not sure exactly how they work. I used to think it's 1/2/3 beeps at 15%/10%/5% but maybe it's speed dependent. Just slow down when you hear them and you're good. Btw, even at low battery, the current Gotways still have a lot of juice left in the cells. You can run into the low battery tiltback without problem (maybe not at crazy speeds, but otherwise). hall sensor defect, 2 beeps every 1/2 seconds May you never hear that! PCB high temperature alarm, 2 short beep 2 seconds, tilt back to get rider off the EUC, tilting back and forward after stopped Just stop then, or keep going slowly/not uphill (wind cools the wheel). No problem. extreme low voltage power on,1 beep 1 second,totally 5 beep You'll never hear that. fall down,1 beep 1 second, total of 5 beeps No error... wheel error at least over voltage, 3 short beep 2 second, tilt back when riding downhill You hear/feel that, stop right then! But you will probably never encounter it. The one that worried me the most was the three beeps, I wasn't going that fast, but was trying to accelerate rapidly That's just a harmless speed alarm. Or it was the first 3 beeps of 5 (beeps will be aborted if the reason for the alarm goes away, which can lead to confusing beeps) in that case you were at the limit. You're not that heavy (right?) so I wouldn't worry too much (but never ignore the 5 beep alarm and slow down then). See inline text. That Ron guy just thought it is a good idea to test the top speed of a wheel. Which can only end in one way. Beeps are there for a reason, and even then they are no absolute guarantee which is something a rider should be aware of (but unless you are very heavy or ride like crazy, the beeps are a perfectly good warning system).. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRide Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 11 hours ago, Rywokast said: ive seen lots of videos of 8-12 year old kids riding.. and pretty sure what was a 6 year old girl riding in china xD I think you missed the joke... read the original quote again. I have no problem with young people riding, the sooner the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Michael Tucker Posted July 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 7/20/2019 at 3:26 PM, Marty Backe said: I don't feel strange at all. I would probably feel strange locking up the wheel ...says the guy with a cape! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Kim Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 14 hours ago, zenleetech said: went for pretty chill late night ride, didn't want to get off, every now and then I need to stop because my feet fall asleep (like when you sit on toilet too long) not sure it's my shoes or position- today was the first day I got beeps, they scarred me a bit, came back and did some research trying to find out what they mean- is this a correct guide? (also watched the respect the beep video by miami) first speed alarm, 2 beeps per second second speed alarm, 3 beeps per second third speed alarm, 4 beeps per second 80% power alarm, 5 beeps per second(continuously non-stop beeping without pause) less than 7.2km/h, low voltage,1 beep every 2 seconds less than 14.4km/h, low voltage, 2 beeps every 2 seconds more than 14.4km/h, low voltage, 3 beeps every 2 seconds hall sensor defect, 2 beeps every 1/2 seconds PCB high temperature alarm, 2 short beep 2 seconds, tilt back to get rider off the EUC, tilting back and forward after stopped extreme low voltage power on,1 beep 1 second,totally 5 beep fall down,1 beep 1 second, total of 5 beeps over voltage, 3 short beep 2 second, tilt back when riding downhill The one that worried me the most was the three beeps, I wasn't going that fast, but was trying to accelerate rapidly That 80% beep is probably going to be the most important beep to keep tabs on; I have yet to come close to draining the 1680Wh battery on my 18S, and I can't imagine myself draining a larger battery any faster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zenleetech Posted July 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2019 So I went from wanting to sell the wheel to never wanting to let it go...appreciate you guys! Been riding around a lot and tonight had some positive and negative adventures. On positive side I'm meeting lots of new people, and made some new friends. Think I've sold a few people on buying a wheel, need to get my affiliate going so I can pay off the loan on mine:0 On the negative side I was chased by security guards through a casino parking lot: one was on bike and one was on electric three wheel scooter. They were screaming at me to 'get out!'. The Casino is place I normally go to play poker and gamble a bit, was scouting it out on the and getting comfortable with driving in the area. Before the chase began I drove up to the guy on the scooter at walking speed and jokingly said do you want to 'race?'. On refection I probably shouldn't have done that but was driving super slow and being safe and just joking with him and didn't speed off, rode directly to the entrance from their to see if i could. They probably saw me as a risk, but I wasn't doing anything crazy and driving below speed limit. Almost want to complain to management, but I'm probably in the wrong even though it didn't feel that way. Was definitely triggered because instead of just talking to me they chased me and were screaming. I was being ultra cautious and not harming anybody and wanted to return to the casino but now I'm not feeling safe about it. Had anxiety attack on the wheel and got a bit shaky, had to stop and find place to sit down for awhile. On the bright side of the chase, I smoked them, not even a contest and even decided to rub it in a bit doing loops around them i wasn't a dick until they provoked me (imo). Need to make sure I'm a positive member of community and not making euc riders look bad. My apologize for the negative parts! 10 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Zemlyachenko Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 22 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said: See inline text. Beeps depend on rider weight and a bit on tire pressure. I've bothered with measuring gps speed on different beeps (with android wear watch). For my 108kg: 1st beep (single) -- at 28km/h 2nd beep (double) -- at 30km/h 3d beep (triple) -- at 32km/h 80% power alarm, 5 beeps per second -- encountered once on half-empty battery, speed was around 45km/h according to gps data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rywokast Posted July 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 hours ago, zenleetech said: So I went from wanting to sell the wheel to never wanting to let it go...appreciate you guys! Been riding around a lot and tonight had some positive and negative adventures. On positive side I'm meeting lots of new people, and made some new friends. Think I've sold a few people on buying a wheel, need to get my affiliate going so I can pay off the loan on mine:0 On the negative side I was chased by security guards through a casino parking lot: one was on bike and one was on electric three wheel scooter. They were screaming at me to 'get out!'. The Casino is place I normally go to play poker and gamble a bit, was scouting it out on the and getting comfortable with driving in the area. Before the chase began I drove up to the guy on the scooter at walking speed and jokingly said do you want to 'race?'. On refection I probably shouldn't have done that but was driving super slow and being safe and just joking with him and didn't speed off, rode directly to the entrance from their to see if i could. They probably saw me as a risk, but I wasn't doing anything crazy and driving below speed limit. Almost want to complain to management, but I'm probably in the wrong even though it didn't feel that way. Was definitely triggered because instead of just talking to me they chased me and were screaming. I was being ultra cautious and not harming anybody and wanted to return to the casino but now I'm not feeling safe about it. Had anxiety attack on the wheel and got a bit shaky, had to stop and find place to sit down for awhile. On the bright side of the chase, I smoked them, not even a contest and even decided to rub it in a bit doing loops around them i wasn't a dick until they provoked me (imo). Need to make sure I'm a positive member of community and not making euc riders look bad. My apologize for the negative parts! they sound like a bunch of dicks 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 57 minutes ago, Ivan Zemlyachenko said: Beeps depend on rider weight and a bit on tire pressure. I don’t think they do though, and there is not even a way for the wheel to know those variables. The ”80%” beep depends on battery level, which is of course dependant on charge level and the current strain level. But aren’t the other beeps stricktly speed based warnings? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 3 hours ago, zenleetech said: On the negative side I was chased by security guards through a casino parking lot: one was on bike and one was on electric three wheel scooter. They were screaming at me to 'get out!'. Well that’s disheartening. They’re job is to protect patrons and their cars which is understandable but they could have used some simple diplomacy when approaching you. It must have a slow (Oceans 11) crime stoppers day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Zemlyachenko Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 hours ago, mrelwood said: I don’t think they do though, and there is not even a way for the wheel to know those variables. It looks like beeps (on Nikola at least) depend on voltage, not speed. Of course it's just an assumption, more measurements needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 The beeps might be new/different on the Nikola? Can anybody confirm or deny that? You're right about the speeds, though. 30kph and 35kph is what the wheel says, but it's more like 28 and 33 in reality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 @zenleetech Quite the story Glad you enjoy the wheel. And I see nothing wrong with being a dick to people who started it. I'd rather have EUCers seen as badass than as pushovers and easy victims. First impressions matter! Contact Jason at ewheels for the affiliate stuff. Why not! There's lots of people who do that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ivan Zemlyachenko said: It looks like beeps (on Nikola at least) depend on voltage, not speed. Of course it's just an assumption, more measurements needed. That would be an interesting change. So far the first and second beep have been tied to speed only, but the speeds of course vary between models. Interesting to hear how your further testing goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenleetech Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) The beep I was getting mostly was at 30kph and it wouldn't stop until I dropped in speed. Found out how to disable it on app, was listed as tier 1 alarm I think. Haven't found anybody in Vegas to ride with, checked meet-up for some events and there is nothing, might need to get one going. Feel like I'm the only EUC rider here, but one person I ran into said he's seen somebody else cruising around on one, the hunt for a riding buddy begins Edited July 23, 2019 by zenleetech 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Tucker Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 19 hours ago, zenleetech said: So I went from wanting to sell the wheel to never wanting to let it go...appreciate you guys! Been riding around a lot and tonight had some positive and negative adventures. On positive side I'm meeting lots of new people, and made some new friends. Think I've sold a few people on buying a wheel, need to get my affiliate going so I can pay off the loan on mine:0 On the negative side I was chased by security guards through a casino parking lot: one was on bike and one was on electric three wheel scooter. They were screaming at me to 'get out!'. The Casino is place I normally go to play poker and gamble a bit, was scouting it out on the and getting comfortable with driving in the area. Before the chase began I drove up to the guy on the scooter at walking speed and jokingly said do you want to 'race?'. On refection I probably shouldn't have done that but was driving super slow and being safe and just joking with him and didn't speed off, rode directly to the entrance from their to see if i could. They probably saw me as a risk, but I wasn't doing anything crazy and driving below speed limit. Almost want to complain to management, but I'm probably in the wrong even though it didn't feel that way. Was definitely triggered because instead of just talking to me they chased me and were screaming. I was being ultra cautious and not harming anybody and wanted to return to the casino but now I'm not feeling safe about it. Had anxiety attack on the wheel and got a bit shaky, had to stop and find place to sit down for awhile. On the bright side of the chase, I smoked them, not even a contest and even decided to rub it in a bit doing loops around them i wasn't a dick until they provoked me (imo). Need to make sure I'm a positive member of community and not making euc riders look bad. My apologize for the negative parts! Were you riding with the LED ring lights on. I have found, for some reason, ALL of my negative interactions with people have been on devices that have the LEDs on; Ninebot One E+, Mten3, KS18XL, Monster. The moment I cover-up or turn them off, I never again have any bad interactions with people. I guess the lights make people think you're a trouble maker or on some silly toy. Kids love the lights, but not adults. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave U Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Michael Tucker said: The moment I cover-up or turn them off, I never again have any bad interactions with people. I guess the lights make people think you're a trouble maker or on some silly toy. Kids love the lights, but not adults. I also noticed this trend with adults as soon as all the Toys R Us stores closed doors after they went bankrupt. Kids love the lights cause it reminds them of the song, I don't want to grow up, I'm a Toys R us Kid Edited July 23, 2019 by Dave U CORRECTION 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meserias Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 it is possible to lift it from the ground with one hand securely ? I'm asking because I evaluate the case where I need to go up or down few steps (my KS18XL can be lifted with one hand) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Meserias said: it is possible to lift it from the ground with one hand securely ? I'm asking because I evaluate the case where I need to go up or down few steps (my KS18XL can be lifted with one hand) yea of course you can see it in a lot of videos, but it would require a lot more hand strength than something you can wrap your whole hand around like a kingsong handle.. you can test it on any euc just pick up your ks with your fingers only, keep your fingers flat dont wrap them around the handle at all perfectly flat and thats what it would be like lifting the nikola, its definitely harder lol just depends on your personal strength.. a few steps is nothing but if you needed to go up five flights of stairs twice daily i might rethink it haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meserias Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I will stay on my KS18XL ... I'm asking because I try to image how hard will be for a woman to lift it. do you have video link about this ? how do you owners of Nikola solve this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Meserias said: I will stay on my KS18XL ... I'm asking because I try to image how hard will be for a woman to lift it. do you have video link about this ? how do you owners of Nikola solve this ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72sTpPa05MA&t=49s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l58uzGwtvyo&t=1m14s you can see it in a lot of review videos.. no need to imagine it just get her to try lifting the KS18XL with only her fingers like i said see if she can do it easily enough.. they weigh the same.. there is no possible way to get around it lol, you either lift it with two hands which would just be extremely awkward, or have the strength to do it with one.. if you cant, then i guess you would need to hit up the gym xD there is also the slightly less tiring way of lifting any wheel which is grabbing it with your non dominant hand from the handle, and then with your dominant hand cup it around the bottom of the pedal and lift, people often employ this method to get it into a truck or their car trunk etc as you know while lifting something 50 lbs at waist level may be hard, if thats hard for you its gonna be damn near impossible for you to lift it up to your head, whereas with this method its easy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meserias Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Thanks got an idea now how hard is. it's not comfortable but possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Just now, Meserias said: Thanks got an idea now how hard is. it's not comfortable but possible. i just remembered that marty has a video on this technique.. unsurprisingly xD yes exactly like anyone can carry an inmotion V5, but a lot less can carry it for ten mins straight or lift it above their head.. i think carrying it for under a minute or up a few stairs should be no issues 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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