FreeRide Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 6 hours ago, Circuitmage said: ..... - No trolley handly (!!) ..... Well the idea is you ride it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasenutty Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Did he say he wanted a trolley handy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfrese Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 21 hours ago, ir_fuel said: Any ETA for this thing yet? I messaged ninebotus.com a couple days ago, and got this reply: "So far there is no set date on when NA will have it. But I can tell you that towards the end of this year we may hear something or get an update on what will happen." I think we'll have to spend the next three or four months speculating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circuitmage Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 That tire sure looks hefty. $50 tire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasenutty Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Better than two tires, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litewave Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 38 minutes ago, Circuitmage said: That tire sure looks hefty. $50 tire? Plus the $150 or more for the trolley handle , given the high cost of the One E series add-on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circuitmage Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) @kasenutty I've been thinking about that, not so sure. I still have never been on a single wheel EUC! So, knowing how easy it is for my 2 wheels to go straight, I am worried that it would be both more difficult to keep balance (even though the wheel is wider) and retain the difficulty in turning. If I could be reassured that my (limited) experience on my 2 wheeler is going to provide the skillz needed for a 1 wheeler, it may be an easy purchase. But at that $$$, I really would like some kind of comparison. Not sure how to do that though. Is there some trade show I can go to and try like 4 or 5 different EUC's? Edited August 25, 2017 by Circuitmage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Circuitmage said: So, knowing how easy it is for my 2 wheels to go straight, I am worried that it would be both more difficult to keep balance (even though the wheel is wider) and retain the difficulty in turning. If I could be reassured that my (limited) experience on my 2 wheeler is going to provide the skillz needed for a 1 wheeler, it may be an easy purchase. But at that $$$, I really would like some kind of comparison. Not sure how to do that though. On anything other than flat level ground a two wheel EUC is harder to keep straight than one wheel. Also, just like a bicycle, once you are going at a reasonable speed I.e. faster then walking speed, the gyroscopic effect of the spinning wheel keeps you upright. It is only at very low speeds that the one wheel is harder and requires a sort of twisting motion rather than leaning to balance or turn. This doesn't take long to learn. Think of just the front wheel when riding a bike, at very low speed you are wiggling the steering left/right fast to keep the bike balanced, as you go faster you stop doing it and just lean into a turn. As for turning, a two wheel relies on pushing down hard on one tyre to turn slowly or actually coming up onto one wheel to turn fast. A one wheel above walking speed is the same action, it just takes a lot less effort. The two wheels are close enough together on a two wheel EUC that the rider still needs a fair degree of balance so I do not believe conversion to one wheel would take very long at all. Probably the hardest thing is going to be mounting - so start by using a wall, lamppost, etc. to get yourself comfortably on the peddles and don't, at first, try to go too slowly. Once your confidence has improved then focus on free mounting and slow riding and you will be fine. Edited August 25, 2017 by Keith Put right the words my iPad thought I meant ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circuitmage Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 @Keith That's what I keep hearing. Sounds like the transition from my 2 wheel to 1 wheel won't be so bad. Thanks for confirming. I agree with with speed issue. When I received my 2 wheel, I tried learning indoors for 45 mins! Was not good. As soon as I got outside, it took me less than 10 mins to get going. These things need room. Still, would be nice to try out a few and compare. Need a local shop with some "demo" models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatcat Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Circuitmage said: @Keith That's what I keep hearing. Sounds like the transition from my 2 wheel to 1 wheel won't be so bad. Thanks for confirming. I agree with with speed issue. When I received my 2 wheel, I tried learning indoors for 45 mins! Was not good. As soon as I got outside, it took me less than 10 mins to get going. These things need room. Still, would be nice to try out a few and compare. Need a local shop with some "demo" models. There is a transition that is noticeable. One thing you will note is that mounting the thing is a different procedure. Then you'll note how easy it turns in place, which makes it feel wobbly in comparison. Expect a few sessions before you feel comfortable. When you do, going back is no option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scatcat Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I got some feedback on a question about the ninebot. It seems the first batch will be "tested internally", as in "sold in China only". We can expect it in the US and EU in spring 2018... Seems the Chinese get to play beta-testers this time around... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 14 minutes ago, Scatcat said: I got some feedback on a question about the ninebot. It seems the first batch will be "tested internally", as in "sold in China only". We can expect it in the US and EU in spring 2018... Seems the Chinese get to play beta-testers this time around... A bunch of 130 pound (60kg) guys testing these wheels will do nothing for us Western heavy weights 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Circuitmage said: Still, would be nice to try out a few and compare. Need a local shop with some "demo" models. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj3zNfRgfPVAhUD0iYKHSndDmcQFggyMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Felectricglider%2F&usg=AFQjCNHuzg6wy3Q_0Y6tP4Go_IcyDZtRPQ https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Felectricglider.com%2F&h=ATNohXCGrsI3BkqcK7igmeLTFaS8w04UWWJubi2YgKLcpRIsmrwG-N6kuZzIZ4BQVOY32A2QrqgNDki-CuOBeCInm4bKMmx0rNlowD-2LIXQgILw3BzTeLdnS9jhrutg36AmuPwgX7kT39LtgkRL5uD1howdfP69X98S76qI6W1wcMXqRe7gkBfZ0peTDwxIcOx4JO-nCZDRLxHmoo0GPv0hDx_BZxcj8pkAYqCVp6gPYShLKbXHrRqXXoOuIKXIiuW029rLB1TIMElZ1Ncy5ypwFHgmCeEyuH45ziSr-rhaX4MFt3Ag_nFPjtITqjs4xvc91ZRbd4oh1T3ZZR2A_YBbteZkc-XeLPX0Qw7r8MgEoKqS3bgFNF4nQvy5v1xOI4HOHznPjzde099-Axkah337YViKOimVZeRUjHU9h6m6WJSh_X4235ieZyxF2nN2ItH79aeLdEcv15S6AuY3PFUi1aSZasir7muaOG4-N17MtLKlpwnrZVnk8iO_Fjly4jdP I thought they were in Austin, but the website says based in San Antonio. It says they offer training, but shows all their stock is sold out. Edited August 25, 2017 by steve454 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circuitmage Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 @steve454thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 @Circuitmage your welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaughthammer Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 On 23.8.2017 at 4:55 PM, mrelwood said: The 2.125" tire on the KS-16S feels slightly like it could tip over, and I had to tilt the wheel more than my body. I replaced it with a 2.5" one Can you please share, how that went for you? Is there that much clearance in the shell that the bigger tire just fits in, or did you have to modify the shell? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kael Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 18 hours ago, Scatcat said: I got some feedback on a question about the ninebot. It seems the first batch will be "tested internally", as in "sold in China only". We can expect it in the US and EU in spring 2018... Seems the Chinese get to play beta-testers this time around... Ah well... At least we'll get the opportunity to buy one eventually. And by that time I'll have nearly a year of experience riding and plenty of saved pennies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Romero Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 On 8/24/2017 at 4:14 PM, FreeRide said: Well the idea is you ride it! So my water bottle would attach to the handle? ➰ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jekyll_500 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 On 24.8.2017 at 5:03 PM, Circuitmage said: my noob $.02; +Cool design +Good Price point/battery/motor specs +Good climbing/off road ability - No trolley handly (!!) - Wide tire turning concern - weight is a bit high and not sure how portable it would be (esp. fit on train) With a wide tire turning should be even better than with a narrow tire as the contact patch is always the same with equal tire pressure, but normally you'll use a lot lower pressure on a 4.1" tire and so turning might get more difficult. The good thing about wide/big tires is that the contact patch will be wider and therefore more rounded than elliptical, you can read dozen of threads in several Bike-Forums ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo33 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 31/08/2017 Well this morning Segway/Ninebot Press conference at Berlin IFA 2017, has not announced the release of ONE Z among the products that presented (miniplus, minilite releasing date next Q4) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Romero Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, jojo33 said: 31/08/2017 Well this morning Segway/Ninebot Press conference at Berlin IFA 2017, has not announced the release of ONE Z among the products that presented (miniplus, minilite releasing date next Q4) Must be ramping up production considerations. ➰ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasz Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 According to Segway representative - expected release March 2018... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo33 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 Certainly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo33 Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 yes , Why sell a product that is used outdoor only, in winter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Romero Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lukasz said: According to Segway representative - expected release March 2018... That means a year from now for a potential Z10 for me. ➰ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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