Chriull Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, palachzzz said: Main problem is - inaccurate voltage meter in wheel's controllers, it may be wrong on +-1-2V.. I expected such problem, but I think that if someone can't see 100% it is still better than such discharging graph (my V8), where I rode ~8 km on 100%, and last 3-5% isn't usable at all: Seems that the manufacturers introduced this "100 charge %" threshold to not get customers complaints with their unreliable chargers and voltage measurements... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansolo Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I found this table %-V. In my case "- Charger unplugged after end of charge, voltage is 83,11 V: WheelLog 97%" = 4.15V by cell : so the 97% from WheelLog seem OK It seems to confirm the remark of @Chriull "Seems that the manufacturers introduced this "100 charge %" threshold to not get customers complaints with their unreliable chargers and voltage measurements... " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palachzzz Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Chriull said: Seems that the manufacturers introduced this "100 charge %" threshold to not get customers complaints with their unreliable chargers and voltage measurements... Absolutely exactly coincides with my opinion 100% by KS = 4.125V per cell 100% by INMO = 4.125V per cell 100% by GW = 4.1125V per cell Now WheelLog uses 4.175V per cell as 100%. Such inaccurate measurements are "normal" throughout all of the EUCs? This problem is actual for most of models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansolo Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Perhaps an ofset in the parameters of WheelLog to compensate the error voltage measurements... With my MS3 the difference seem to be 0,5 - 0,6 V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koto Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) I've switched from wheellog 1.0.11 to 1.0.14 and something works wrong. For exame, when I change pedal mode I do not hear a bip even if the change is committed on the wheel. It's confusing. The worst thing is about tilt-back setting since I cannot change the tilt-back. I've experienced the same thing on two smartphones. Has anybody else experienced the same thing ? Is it a bug ? What am I doing wrong ? Edited August 11, 2018 by koto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunthor Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 FeedBack to Version 2.0.14: Wonderful release @palachzzz . Only one small step in the version number but SO MANY IMPROVEMENTS. Since this version came out I'm dancing on the roofs. I deleted the bloated constantly crashing Inmotion (Cr-)app from my smartphone. All I used it for was to start this (Cr-)app at the end of a route in order to see the total km. As I am happy with my firmware (1.1.6) - apart from overheat alarms triggered for no apparent reason (e.g. when riding < 30km/h on flat terrain!) - I finally deinstalled this (Cr-)app! I also love the new formulas for calculating battery percentages and recalibrated my Charge Doctor. Many thanks and greetings from Germany. The only improvement that would have me jump even higher would be being able to trigger the on-board V10F horn with the Pebble watch... BTW: It took me a while to find your PayPal donation link. My suggestion is to include this link in the WheelLog app within the Settings in the "About WheelLog" form (that's where I looked first!).Then users like me don't have to search the web and then maybe even give up while doing so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Onymous Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 9 hours ago, Gunthor said: FeedBack to Version 2.0.14: I cant get this update to install on any of my Android phones that have Wheellog already installed. Not on my Blackberry priv with android 6 or my Motorolla using android 8. This seems odd since WheelLog is already installed on these phones and all I am doing is trying to update them. Yes I have allowed 3rd party apps in both the ways necessary for both the phones using different Android os. Any suggestions @palachzzz ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Stan Onymous said: I cant get this update to install on any of my Android phones that have Wheellog already installed. Not on my Blackberry priv with android 6 or my Motorolla using android 8. This seems odd since WheelLog is already installed on these phones and all I am doing is trying to update them. Yes I have allowed 3rd party apps in both the ways necessary for both the phones using different Android os. Any suggestions @palachzzz ? have you tried uninstalling the previous version first 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Onymous Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, stephen said: have you tried uninstalling the previous version first Thank you very much, that did the trick on the Blackberry and the Moto. I never know if an Update will re install the app so I never think of it. I like the WheelLog interface much more for easy viewing. Will be donating to yer efforts soon. Thanks @palachzzz for always taking the initiative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai-lad Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) On 8/8/2018 at 4:08 AM, palachzzz said: Version 2.0.14: - Fixed incorrect Total distance on V10 / V10F with firmware 2.2.8 - Fixed most bugs in the Inmotion protocol, fixed the effect "App does not connect to the wheel in some cases, some wheels were not connected at all (because of specific serial number)" - Fixed work with Inmotion control, now everything is turned on / off / changed from the first try. - Adaptive Inmotion polling speed, data updates as quickly as it possible for phone and EUC without stuck. - Fixed column names in logs (temperature) - After the application is closed, it now completely stops and frees memory (previously it consume ~30 Mb of RAM after close) - New formulas for calculating battery percents for all wheels except KS-18L (it was in previous updates). Formulas of stock applications were used before, therefore most often the readings coincided with that, but in general they were far from the truth. In general, it will show less than before for all wheels, Kingsong will be the most different (because they have the most lying formula), at Gotway - medium (lying at the top, you could ride 100% without losing percents), Inmotion - also medium (lying at the top, it also possible to travel 100% lossless). The best moment to measure % is - immediately after a stop. Inmotion (except V10 / V10F) can also be measured during driving (feature of controllers). These formulas are likely to be further adjusted. WheelLog_07082018_2.0.14.apk Running 4.4.2 android. Have enabled downloading /installation of Apps from unknown sources in the security settings menu. Have 8 GB free. Get to page and click download. Screen clears momentarily. Then window closes and nothing loads, back to download link. Am I missing something obvious? After trying multiple times, I gave up and downloaded the one on this site, then it asked me if I wanted to update, I now have 1.8.0 installed? Edited August 13, 2018 by Thai-lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Onymous Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I tried it with firefox and it worked fine. Maybe try to email the link to yourself and install it from google drive. Or try to rename it WheelLog 2-14.apk and save it as in your downloads file folder. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai-lad Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Stan Onymous said: I tried it with firefox and it worked fine. Maybe try to email the link to yourself and install it from google drive. Or try to rename it WheelLog 2-14.apk and save it as in your downloads file folder. Thanks. That worked. Downloaded the file to the PC, mailed it to myself, then installed from Google drive. Edited August 13, 2018 by Thai-lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Thank you for this 2.0.14 version as it fixed some bugs with my KS16B. However, I've noticed something that does not work : the auto upload to google drive feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltocs Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 On 8/13/2018 at 11:34 PM, palachzzz said: Inmotion shows true battery current, instead of Gotway, which shows motor phase current, which could be so far from real battery current.. I think your 90A spikes, was at about zero speed, when the motor current is the most distant from battery current I looked at my logs. I don't know if i should call them spikes, it's more like wild fluctuations or bouncing around that hit 90A once in a while, but still somewhat relative to how much power I'm actually using. At zero speed, the MCM5 is still bouncing around wildly but in the lower levels. And the other thing is whether uphills or braking downhill, MCM5 never shows negatives. Monitoring gotway numbers is definitely a learning curve, a simple one, but still a bit of learning involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, maltocs said: I looked at my logs. I don't know if i should call them spikes, it's more like wild fluctuations or bouncing around that hit 90A once in a while, but still somewhat relative to how much power I'm actually using. At zero speed, the MCM5 is still bouncing around wildly but in the lower levels. And the other thing is whether uphills or braking downhill, MCM5 never shows negatives. Monitoring gotway numbers is definitely a learning curve, a simple one, but still a bit of learning involved. As far as my experience goes on GW wheels and wheellog....the negatives are shown on the graph...but they appear as positive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koto Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 @palachzzz: I don't know if anybody else has noticed something similar as what i will describe below about battery capacity measure with wheellog but it is a littre bit disturbing. Today wih my Msuper3 820Wh 67V, wheellog shows that I have 58% of battery but when I look behind the wheel, 4/5 LEDs are still on. It is natural to think that i should have 60-80% of battery (even if i don't know exactlu how it is configured by gotway). Before it has been changed (If I'm right) in wheellog it ddn't disturbed me but now wheellog measure and gotway LEDs are not consistent in my view. Before these changes, at the end of a charge wheellog says the battery is charge at 100% Now it says 95% Perhaps it's right but the inconsistency against gotway LEDs is confusing. Before these last changes, if I see that 30% of battery remains and I use a charge doctor (configured to stop charging when the current is lower than 0.03A) with my Msuper3 I could guess the Wh value I might see on charge doctor at the end of the charge. 820Wh x 0.7 = 574Wh. At the end of the charge the result is often close to the result of this method. Now, the value I see on the charge doctor at the end of the charging process is significantly lower than what I'm waiting for. How should I use efficiently wheellog battery level measure ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansolo Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 The % are more realistic, that all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palachzzz Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 13 hours ago, koto said: How should I use efficiently wheellog battery level measure ? It is more realistic corresponds to remaining mileage, nothing else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post palachzzz Posted August 20, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/8/2018 at 4:36 AM, Lukasz said: I hope that the next wheel You will add communication with will be Ninebot Z10... Dreams come true, especially when you yourself are involved in their implementation Version 2.0.15: - Ninebot Z series support, without wheel settings control yet, only reading metrics.Each user of Ninebot Z & WheelLog must say thanks to @Lukasz, thanks to the cooperation with him it became possible. He collected all the necessary data (which was also used to add Ninebot Z support to DarknessBot), and tested more than 20 alpha builds of the WheelLog WheelLog_20082018_2.0.15.apk 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas Kerspern Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 At this version, I cannot set auto upload on Google drive after my account selected, it make unset automatically... What is the wrong? Thanks Nicolas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasz Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nicolas Kerspern said: What is the wrong? Please check post above - Ninebot Z series support, without wheel settings control yet, only reading metrics. palachzzz made great job creating this version! BIG thank you to him - and he did it without the direct access to Ninebot Z! Edited August 20, 2018 by Lukasz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palachzzz Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, Nicolas Kerspern said: At this version, I cannot set auto upload on Google drive after my account selected, it make unset automatically... This option has never worked for me, either in the original version from the market, or in my builds, the reason is probably changed API by google. I will remove this option from the menu in next version. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javi Tuñon Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Hola, no hay alguna versión que funcione con las nuevas Rockwheel Gt16? Esta versión tampoco funciona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lukasz Posted August 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) BIG time update! Thanks to Palachzzz we have support for Ninebot ONE Z in WhelLog now! Development was made by Palachzzz without the direct access to Z model (please support Palachzzz through Paypal for his development work), I took the small part in the development as tester as the logs provider. This is great unicycle software which offers very clean interface, a lot of trip data and Pebble watch support! I also mention two more safety features - bell and rear view mirror.... Edited August 20, 2018 by Lukasz 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciodvd Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 please can you add support for the Rockwheel Gt16 v3, the v2 if it connects, but the v3 does not, they must have changed some of the software 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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