New Veteran "Abrams" 22-inch Wheel

[meepmeepmayer]

Huh, that means that (probably) 2 battery casings form one pack. Oh well, they did that kind of split on the Sherman, so no problem.

Really nice improvement in design quality! From Gotway-level foil pack to a nice plastic box.

[RagingGrandpa]

39 minutes ago, Denny Paul said:

Any idea what the wh per battery pack is?

For Abrams, the "pack module" is the entire side-assembly pictured above. 27100 24s 3p 1332wh.
It looks like they built it using two sealed boxes of 12s3p each. Lovely.
(You should not replace just one 12s 'box' though; the entire 1332wh assembly of two boxes becomes one 24s "pack")

Like this:

39 minutes ago, Denny Paul said:

weight is going to be off balanced like the exn?

It will be balanced

 

 

Edited October 21, 2021 by RagingGrandpa

[Planemo]

The move to sealed boxes is awesome, it's just a shame that by doing so it does waste some unused space within the shell. A really good use of available space (like the Z10) could cram in more Wh (and maybe make each pack 4P possibly?) but buyers of this wheel are unlikely to be bothered I am sure. Deffo a good move though, I like it! 

Given that the boxes look well screwed to the panel, lets hope that the panel is well screwed to the shell!

[Denny Paul]

Browsing Afeez’s / Erides photos, I came across this gem: compares the monster pro, commander, and Abrams all in the flesh.

is it just me, or is the tire size on the Abrams and monster pro essentially the same?!

[That Guy]

Can't wait for the first ride reports for this beauty, likely from either eevee's or e-rides this weekend... 

[That Guy]

 

[EMA]

this is probably the first wheel close to Z10 in term of build quality, and probably also the reason of the insane weight.

i've asked @Afeez Kay to put the wheel on a scale after mounting the battery

[Mango]

Imagine buying any modern motorcycle and getting Gotway level of quality build and materials. No motorcycle buyer would support such a company, so why do we vote with our wallets for Gotway quality when such wheels dependability directly affects our well-being. I will support a company that strives for build quality and innovative features. I will buy the Abrams because they are doing the right things that matter. I don't care if it weighs a little more, or if the battery capacity is less than its competitors. It's all noise in the grand scheme of the EUC universe timeline. The Abrams is the closest thing to motorcycle-class transport on one wheel. It's still the very early days...

[EMA]

https://www.facebook.com/Afeez.trymyev/videos/1923594954478745

27.6kg + 11kg battery raw + shell = a lot

well made but could really reach 44kg 

[GothamMike]

6 hours ago, Mango said:

Imagine buying any modern motorcycle and getting Gotway level of quality build and materials. No motorcycle buyer would support such a company, so why do we vote with our wallets for Gotway quality when such wheels dependability directly affects our well-being. I will support a company that strives for build quality and innovative features. I will buy the Abrams because they are doing the right things that matter. I don't care if it weighs a little more, or if the battery capacity is less than its competitors. It's all noise in the grand scheme of the EUC universe timeline. The Abrams is the closest thing to motorcycle-class transport on one wheel. It's still the very early days...

Guys want to ride 5% faster than the other riders. Nothing else matters. 

 

[Rawnei]

6 hours ago, Mango said:

Imagine buying any modern motorcycle and getting Gotway level of quality build and materials. No motorcycle buyer would support such a company, so why do we vote with our wallets for Gotway quality when such wheels dependability directly affects our well-being. I will support a company that strives for build quality and innovative features. I will buy the Abrams because they are doing the right things that matter. I don't care if it weighs a little more, or if the battery capacity is less than its competitors. It's all noise in the grand scheme of the EUC universe timeline. The Abrams is the closest thing to motorcycle-class transport on one wheel. It's still the very early days...

 

8 minutes ago, GothamMike said:

Guys want to ride 5% faster than the other riders. Nothing else matters. 

 

Come on guys lets be real for a moment, how many Gotways have you guys owned? Comments like these feel like someone just repeating things that someone else said that wasn't well founded to begin with.

Historically all wheels from all manufacturers have had various limitations and/or problems, Gotway however has set itself apart with superior performance and believe it or not great durability. Like Mango I dare you to go up a long steep incline on your Sherman, will you risk the motherboard burning up? Mike I can go more than 10kmh faster on my MSP High Torque model than you on your KS18 while getting more range at the same time, I've also ridden it in both rain and snow no problems. So why are you guys even bashing on Gotway for? What's your basis for that?

This next generation of wheels coming are like the first generation of wheels where all the manufacturers actually starts to listen to community and take things like waterproofing more seriously and also first generation where we start to see wheels to match Gotway performance (LeaperKim excluded), this hasn't happened before and these wheels aren't even out yet.

 

[GothamMike]

3 minutes ago, Rawnei said:

 

Come on guys lets be real for a moment, how many Gotways have you guys owned? Comments like these feel like someone just repeating things that someone else said that wasn't well founded to begin with.

Historically all wheels from all manufacturers have had various limitations and/or problems, Gotway however has set itself apart with superior performance and believe it or not great durability. Like Mango I dare you to go up a long steep incline on your Sherman, will you risk the motherboard burning up? Mike I can go more than 10kmh faster on my MSP High Torque model than you on your KS18 while getting more range at the same time, I've also ridden it in both rain and snow no problems. So why are you guys even bashing on Gotway for? What's your basis for that?

This next generation of wheels coming are like the first generation of wheels where all the manufacturers actually starts to listen to community and take things like waterproofing more seriously and also first generation where we start to see wheels to match Gotway performance (LeaperKim excluded), this hasn't happened before and these wheels aren't even out yet.

 

You just proved my point. I've seen GWs held together with zip-ties and duct tape. Shoddy. Almost all fires are from GW/BG. 

[Rawnei]

3 minutes ago, GothamMike said:

You just proved my point. I've seen GWs held together with zip-ties and duct tape. Shoddy. Almost all fires are from GW/BG. 

Wow you really live in a bubble.

[Mango]

17 hours ago, Rawnei said:

Come on guys lets be real for a moment, how many Gotways have you guys owned? Comments like these feel like someone just repeating things that someone else said that wasn't well founded to begin with.

One. I refrained from purchasing any more Gotway wheels based on teardown videos and photos of its atrocious build quality that’s all over the internet. Do I need to own a Gotway to know they have terrible shells (not great durability, sorry), wood screws and highest rate of fire incidents.

17 hours ago, Rawnei said:

Like Mango I dare you to go up a long steep incline on your Sherman, will you risk the motherboard burning up?

This makes no sense, it’s like me telling you to ride 80km/h with your MSP HT. Will you risk a cut out, dislocate your limbs, and be a meat crayon on the road?

17 hours ago, Rawnei said:

This next generation of wheels coming are like the first generation of wheels where all the manufacturers actually starts to listen to community and take things like waterproofing more seriously and also first generation where we start to see wheels to match Gotway performance (LeaperKim excluded), this hasn't happened before and these wheels aren't even out yet.

I haven’t seen any latest wheels from Gotway/Begode/EB to believe they have improved their build quality. Have you seen Wrong Ways latest video unboxing of the EXN. Their god-awful electrical connections are a major fire risk, Adam himself pointed this out.

People who can’t debate facts (like high incidence of Gotway fires) but resort to ad hominem attacks already lost their argument.

[Rawnei]

1 hour ago, Mango said:

 Do I need to own a Gotway to know they have terrible shells (not great durability, sorry), wood screws and highest rate of fire incidents.

Yes actually, first hand experience means a lot, practice weighs a lot more than theory, lots of theorycrafters on this forum that ignore real world scenarios, lots of people ride Gotways for a reason despite all their flaws.

1 hour ago, Mango said:

This makes no sense, it’s like me telling you to ride 80km/h with your MSP HT. Will you risk a cut out, dislocate your limbs, and be a meat crayon on the road?

You're telling me it makes no sense then make a ridiculous comparison, the point is that the Sherman will burn up from things that is normal use in all the other wheels, it's a major flaw, I own a Sherman myself and is very aware of this flaw.

1 hour ago, Mango said:

I haven’t seen any latest wheels from Gotway/Begode/EB to believe they have improved their build quality. Have you seen Wrong Ways latest video unboxing of the EXN. Their god-awful electrical connections are a major fire risk, Adam himself pointed this out.

People who can’t debate facts (like high incidence of Gotway fires) but resort to ad hominem attacks already lost their argument.

Nobody is arguing that they couldn't do better, you don't see me defending those things, I want good build quality from all the manufactures just as anyone else, why wouldn't I? But the fact remains that all wheels have their flaws, how many current wheels do you think are really waterproof? Not many, get water in your wheel and all sorts of bad things can happen, this is regardless of manufacturer. And don't just looking at the electronics ignoring everything else, many wheels have brittle shells that crack or deform over time if you use it heavily like off-roading or skateparks, you mention Gotway have terrible shells this is just not true at all, they hold up very well in a crash or when dropped or what not, why do you think most people choose a Gotway wheel for off-roading? Of course any wheel will probably get damaged if you crash spectacularly at high speed then it doesn't matter if you have an Abrams or whatnot the force of impact will be too great and the whole argument is moot.

Edited October 23, 2021 by Rawnei

[Alexutlang]

On 10/22/2021 at 6:10 PM, Rawnei said:

 

Come on guys lets be real for a moment, how many Gotways have you guys owned? Comments like these feel like someone just repeating things that someone else said that wasn't well founded to begin with.

Historically all wheels from all manufacturers have had various limitations and/or problems, Gotway however has set itself apart with superior performance and believe it or not great durability. Like Mango I dare you to go up a long steep incline on your Sherman, will you risk the motherboard burning up? Mike I can go more than 10kmh faster on my MSP High Torque model than you on your KS18 while getting more range at the same time, I've also ridden it in both rain and snow no problems. So why are you guys even bashing on Gotway for? What's your basis for that?

This next generation of wheels coming are like the first generation of wheels where all the manufacturers actually starts to listen to community and take things like waterproofing more seriously and also first generation where we start to see wheels to match Gotway performance (LeaperKim excluded), this hasn't happened before and these wheels aren't even out yet.

 

Agree, I had more problems with my kingsong S18, 18L and Inmotion V8 than any of my Gotway/Begode (mten3, MSP, RS and Mpro)

[Kekafuch]

Patiently waiting on some Abrams riding content… 

 

 

 

[fbhb]

This was just posted on Facebook by Linnea:

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First batch of Abrams.

Edited October 25, 2021 by fbhb

[That Guy]

Something’s telling me LeaperKim have a lot of confidence in this beast. ;-)

[Kekafuch]

A seat might be available from factory. Hopefully there’s a follow up video sooner than later w some riding impressions of that torque motor! 
 

 

[Dreygun]

Curious if the bars are the same distance apart to accommodate current sherman bar mounted seats

[EMA]

1 minute ago, Dreygun said:

Curious if the bars are the same distance apart to accommodate current sherman bar mounted seats

nope, they are a bit different, there are some pictures on fb

[That Guy]

I don’t think it was a seat, I guess it was the rear light with the mud guard. 

[Paradox]

Just posted on youtube.

 

[Mango]

Insane!

I’m calling it. EUC of 2021!