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1 hour ago, mrelwood said:

Absolutely! It’s because they do not accelerate and brake by leaning… ;)

If the Sherman could climb half as good as the V3 it’d be ok

 

but it doesn’t 

 

I have a clip of the V3 climbing a super steep concrete slope in a drain

 

my Sherman can’t do it 

 

also the brakes where better and I could launch if further off drops and hop it way higher, but thats cos the Sherman is much heavier 

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On 8/14/2021 at 2:13 PM, mrelwood said:

Absolutely! It’s because they do not accelerate and brake by leaning… ;)

nahh ...no need to lean the body when using frontwedge on the pedals ...you control the machine with the toes and keep bodypostion just like a mogul skier!

1. https://eucmods.blogspot.com/2016/07/msuper-mod7the-wedge.html
2. https://eucmods.blogspot.com/2020/04/off-road-pedals-with-spikes-side-wedge.html
3. https://eucmods.blogspot.com/2021/05/updated-sherman-pedals.html

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eWheels preorder page is reporting 50MPH top speed which is consistent with what I heard about the Abrams having more torque than the Sherman, but the same top speed. Interesting since additional torque (low end) in wheels usually equals lower top speed.

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3 hours ago, gon2fast said:

eWheels preorder page is reporting 50MPH top speed which is consistent with what I heard about the Abrams having more torque than the Sherman, but the same top speed. Interesting since additional torque (low end) in wheels usually equals lower top speed.

this is basically a lie, a 22 inch will never compete with a 19' in the low end, it's just a real world fact ;) 

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1 hour ago, EMA said:

this is basically a lie, a 22 inch will never compete with a 19' in the low end, it's just a real world fact ;) 

If you’re talking about accelerating, then sure, a 22” wheel requires more lean to tap into the torque reserve. But while smaller wheels get “free” “torque” from the smaller tire diameter, they also require more “torque” to compensate for the rider’s lean. Which of these two aspects wins or if they are identical, I don’t know. What I do know though is that riders do not tend to overlean 22+ inch wheels at lower speeds.

Edit: I shouldn’t have used the word “torque“ above, as “thrust” is a more correct word. Thanks @Eucner!

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55 minutes ago, EMA said:

this is basically a lie, a 22 inch will never compete with a 19' in the low end, it's just a real world fact ;) 

Torque and thrust are different things. They are way too often mixed here. If 19 and 22 inch wheels have same torque, will smaller wheel have more thrust.

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13 minutes ago, mrelwood said:

If you’re talking about accelerating, then sure, a 22” wheel requires more lean to tap into the torque reserve. But while smaller wheels get “free” “torque” from the smaller tire diameter, they also require more “torque” to compensate for the rider’s lean. Which of these two aspects wins or if they are identical, I don’t know. What I do know though is that riders do not tend to overlean 22+ inch wheels at lower speeds.

Edit: I shouldn’t have used the word “torque“ above, as “thrust” is a more correct word. Thanks @Eucner!

 

13 minutes ago, Eucner said:

Torque and thrust are different things. They are way too often mixed here. If 19 and 22 inch wheels have same torque, will smaller wheel have more thrust.

thanks both for extended explaination ;)

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7 hours ago, gon2fast said:

eWheels preorder page is reporting 50MPH top speed which is consistent with what I heard about the Abrams having more torque than the Sherman, but the same top speed. Interesting since additional torque (low end) in wheels usually equals lower top speed.

I wouldn’t take anything at face value. The Sherman has proven time and time again it could hit 50 mph. I’d look at the board configuration, motor and battery config before estimating its real world top speed. also the speed-corrected no load speed should clue you in. 

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Abrams looks very, very promissing, it may be best wheel of 2021. 

Reasonably priced 22" wheel with big battery = nice upgrade for Monster lovers. 

As a Monster v3 user I DON'T need super high power, 2500-2800w is absolutelly enough. It is cruiser wheel, not racer. Range is much more needed here, than sporty torque. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Denny Paul said:

oh my god does it say "surging passion" on the side?

It'll be so embarrassing having my surging passion just out on display when I'm out in public.

It would get draughty at higher speeds too...   :blink1:

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16 minutes ago, RockyTop said:

I think it is “SOARING PASSION “

the R looks like a G until you look at where the light shines brightest on the letters above.  

I dunno... if you squint just right it sort of looks a bit like, 

SCREAMING PASTYOU

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jc 🤦🏻‍♂️… soaring or surging, either way terrible. 

the normie pedals on the Abrams really make it an outlier with the new crop of wheels. veteran getting complacent with their competitive edge IMO. hex pedals are the way to go. 

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