Paradox Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 20 minutes ago, Dany FeelGood said: ABRAMS from a friend BEARING Problems after 40km Wow. What a mess. Off road for this wheel must be indoor use only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post e Adventures Posted January 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2022 The first 40km i rode the bearing was allready grinding but i did this offroad and glad to see it was not because of that but because the bearings had rust in it brand new out of the box... Not to mention the design of the batterypacks and cage of the wheel... It will swope all the dirt to the center of the wheels axle/bearing! Also hard to clean! The tire had the "blue fish" in it and deformed the walls of the tire because i rode it like that the first km's... When i disconect the wheel from motherboard/batterypacks my ODO or Total milage gets reset! I had the wheel disassamble for 3 times to fix all this... I got the wheel from ... at EUCSALES with good service and that is a nice person that helped me to the extend that he could. He even tested my wheel for the cutout isseus before sending it to me... Problem is that Leaperkim did not do anything to solve my problem! I did all the labor myself and payed top dollars for this wheel. It was actualy the first new wheel that i got and sold the veteran Sherman for this! I had the luxury of trouble free riding and was hoping from L..p.rk.m the same build quality but now i'm stuck with the Abrams! They advertise the wheel on many sites telling it is the offroad king or that it has IPS 65 rating and sealed bearings! I got new bearings from a good (Japanese) brand and extra seals (German) brand on top of that with Grease inside of it... To keep all water out and dirt! The tire i replaced with the tubeless Mitas B7 White wall :) The whole batterypacks/cage and Motherboard with headlight/taillight is only holding its total weight by the 3 screws on the pedalhanger with the flat bar that swipes all dirt to the center of the wheel. When u gently drop the wheel a few times in the dirt it will deform the cage and when u try to dissamble/reassemble the wheel after that it's gonna be much harder to line up all the screws of the batterypacks! When i open the motor i saw moisture inside and the motorcable/axle design is bigger and strong but not properly sealed! I fixed it afterwards! Dont get me wrong i still love the wheel by the way it rides for me because i'm a tall guy and love big wheels but not for this money and all the trouble i had to endure! If i could get a monster pro to replace it i would do it instanly with a batch 2 :) Adam i hope the community will get informed by u and spread the word about the problems and maby we hear a solution of the company's! We are not test dummies... If u need more info about the fix of the bearings with extra photo's and video's i'm glad to help u out. Greets Robin from EUC Limburg 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post That Guy Posted January 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2022 Looks like Abrams will be getting even heavier with time... Darn!... I thought I chose my next wheel, but now doubt LeaperKim all together... :-( 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Paul Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) also if anyone else hasn't seen wrongway's teardown of the Abrams, his has bearing issues now too... Edited January 6, 2022 by Denny Paul 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I wonder if this new generation of wheels without a shell will have problems with bearings. The batteries attach directly to the frame providing no protection from water or dirt. From the video it appears to funnel the dirt and debris toward the bearings. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotelOakland Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Hope Veteran can make improvements on this issue. The teardown process doesn't look as bad as the Hero. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kekafuch Posted January 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2022 Veteran Abrams is eevees wheel of the year for 2021. 4 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kekafuch Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Mr Hagov states that he cannot overpower the Abrams. He can overpower the Commander but cannot with the Abrams. Feels more powerful than Monster Pro. Still feels the Abrams is a failure of a wheel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, Kekafuch said: Still feels the Abrams is a failure of a wheel. I wouldn't say so yet. According to Denis Hagov some tuning is required such as replacement of sensors and hydro-isolation of bearings and motor cable. Factory can (easily if they want!) sort it in the next batch. Also the flimsy plastic overhangs can be upgraded (or even just cut off) and I wouldn't be surprised if Veteran fix or improve that, too. The only problematic things that will have to stay with Abrams are its tall construction affecting comfort for some riders (depending on the size and shape of legs?) and the steel framing that will be damaged at impact. I think, despite the disappointingly avoidable cutout problem, apparent poor hydro-insulation of the bearings and motor cable as well as some specifics of the construction, Abrams (in its improved variations) may still be an attractive option for those who are thinking to get a powerful cruiser without suspension... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kekafuch Posted January 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, That Guy said: I wouldn't say so yet. According to Denis Hagov some tuning is required such as replacement of sensors and hydro-isolation of bearings and motor cable. Factory can (easily if they want!) sort it in the next batch. Also the flimsy plastic overhangs can be upgraded (or even just cut off) and I wouldn't be surprised if Veteran fix or improve that, too. The only problematic things that will have to stay with Abrams are its tall construction affecting comfort for some riders (depending on the size and shape of legs?) and the steel framing that will be damaged at impact. I think, despite the disappointingly avoidable cutout problem, apparent poor hydro-insulation of the bearings and motor cable as well as some specifics of the construction, Abrams (in its improved variations) may still be an attractive option for those who are thinking to get a powerful cruiser without suspension... The large wheels always remain a mystery to me yet so many swear by them after they ride them. I really thought the Abrams was gonna be my next wheel but having a hard time justifying it or maybe I need to just try it for myself: I feel it’s impressive that Dennis said he can’t get the wheel to cut out when he can get the commander to. I recently felt a massive dip in my Sherman from a stand still acceleration. Scared me quite a bit. I still love the Sherman but I also feel it could be more stable in turns or at speed with road imperfections. But then I question if I have any business travelling 50/60kmh plus when I am quite happy at 45. I am quite tall at 6’4” so maybe the wider top ergonomics is a non issue. Sure the Abrams is a bit more money over a Sherman/Commander but it has certain specs that those wheels also don’t have. If it fits it fits. i really cannot understand why it’s 2700wh. I feel this choice really hit the nail in the coffin for many. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) I recently had a chance to try several wheels and undeniably the bigger the wheel the more stable/planted/smooth it feels at speeds above 25kph. Hey, @Kekafuch, I think eevee's are in Vancouver. Surely you could try their demo? I haven't given up on Abrams yet especially after watching a few videos and seeing all people get some sort of excitement from riding Abrams that feels genuine, I guess, something they kinda don't really explain, something you can read on their faces or hear in their voice that makes you feel they really really love riding Abrams... Even the apparently negative initial reviews (like the one by Denis Hagov and WrongWay) are followed by clear signs both guys loved riding the wheel (Denis redid his review and WrongWay showed in a few follow-up videos that Abrams is loved and is in use...) Dunno... I decided to (try to) keep cool and see how the first batches perform before getting my next toy. :-) P.S. Besides, in that earlier video above the range was 114km... It of course, depends on the size of the rider and it was a 12-day long exercise, not one marathon run. Still, looks impressive despite the "smaller" battery? Edited January 25, 2022 by That Guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tawpie Posted January 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2022 11 hours ago, That Guy said: Hey, @Kekafuch, I think eevee's are in Vancouver. Surely you could try their demo? They are and they had Abrams in the store when I stopped by. The store isn't located in the best place for fast riding though, so it might be challenging to get it up to speed for any distance. Even if you don't ride it, it's fun to fondle the fancy new wheels. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Unicyclist Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Tawpie said: Even if you don't ride it, it's fun to fondle the fancy new wheels. That's not at all disturbing... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteWheelie Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Has there been any rumors of a bigger battery in the future? It seems like a great wheel but I can't justify a downgrade from my Sherman battery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 13 hours ago, InfiniteWheelie said: Has there been any rumors of a bigger battery in the future? It seems like a great wheel but I can't justify a downgrade from my Sherman battery. Nope. Curious, what distances are you after? There are multiple reports Abrams does 100km plus of hard riding on one charge and more towards 115-120km in warmer weather and softer riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteWheelie Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, That Guy said: Curious, what distances are you after? There are multiple reports Abrams does 100km plus of hard riding on one charge and more towards 115-120km in warmer weather and softer riding. I've drained my Sherman on a single ride, so I wouldn't want any less range. From experience I consider 3 kwh (the Sherman's actual capacity) to be a good milestone where range basically becomes a non issue. Of course more is always better (for power also), but for me 3 kwh is a good starting point. If the Abrams has a true 2700 wh (not inflated like the Sherman), maybe I'd compromise a bit on the range just because I want a bigger wheel. The Monster Pro is tempting with it's huge rim and battery, but the layout/design is shit and I don't trust the quality. Edited January 28, 2022 by InfiniteWheelie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kekafuch Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Some good shots of the Abrams in this video. Also a decent flip crash and the Abrams looked like it survived just fine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 loved the footage, any transcript avail?… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGrandpa Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Kekafuch said: Some good shots of the Abrams in this video. Also a decent flip crash and the Abrams looked like it survived just fine. https://youtu.be/tesDK0Jgs68?t=254 That crash at 4:15 was the luckiest possible outcome... the EUC flipped in the air and only ever contacted the tire. No indication of durability though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dan Hillary Posted February 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2022 eWheels shipped my Abrams to me today, should arrive next week. I ride an EXN high speed right now, so I'll be doing plenty of testing and comparison to decide which of the two I should keep. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kekafuch Posted February 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just love the way this custom Abrams looks. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Dan Hillary said: eWheels shipped my Abrams to me today, should arrive next week. I ride an EXN high speed right now, so I'll be doing plenty of testing and comparison to decide which of the two I should keep. Looking forward to your review! (Are you planning to publish a video?) I would love to learn about: 1. How does the torque compare with torquey wheels like KS16x? (Particularly, can it really ride uphill as easily as KS16x?) 2. Is it indeed feels "flimsy" as WrongWay complained in his unboxing video? 3. How easy is it to live with it in urban environment? Can you ride Abrams through town (start-stop at traffic, go next to pedestrians, jump up road curbs)? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrelwood Posted February 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 hours ago, That Guy said: I would love to learn about: 1. How does the torque compare with torquey wheels like KS16x? (Particularly, can it really ride uphill as easily as KS16x?) You can watch the videos where people try initiate the infamous cutoff. Just look at how sluggishly the wheel accelerates even when the rider does their best to overpower the thing. Accelerating uphill and the feeling of torque you’re referring to is a geometry issue, not a wheel model issue. All 18/“20” inch wheels feel less zippy than all 16” wheels, because you need to lean that much more to initiate the same level of acceleration. All 22” are and forever will feel even more sluggish. The firmware can compensate for the large diameter slightly by using a softer riding mode, but there isn’t much playroom until the riding mode is considered too soft. Besides, for some odd reason most people stick all their wheels into the hard mode anyway, and never even think of trying the medium one. If someone says that the Abrams is almost as zippy or uphillclimby than a 16X, they’re simply trying to fool you, or they have themselves been fooled. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kekafuch Posted February 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2022 After much back and fourth and my personal desire to feel out a “big” wheel for myself. Getting competent to ride on a V8 , I was sort of set on the Monster 22” V3 but then the Sherman came out and went with that for its range and cult following. I have since found that all wheels are rideable as commuters and that wheels are tailor fitted to fit some perfectly and others terribly. I am 6’4” (194cm) and 205-220 lbs. So after checking out the Abrams in person, finding it not much more awkward to pick up than the Sherman, finding it’s “width” and height actually fitting my leg like a glove, and being a sexxxy looking big wheel… I decided to make 2022 a year of 22” wheel discovery. Only stood on it in the garage so far. The tire on mine spun up very smooth and wobble is much less than my Sherman which I feel rides very good. What I noticed is that some videos have the Abrams tire deflated on unboxing and mine was inflated. Could the tire being deflated have caused the tire sealant to solidify? Or maybe I have no sealant in mine. Recently watched the Abrams tire change by “EUC Adventures” on YouTube… with understanding of his own wheel, the tire change is in fact much more simple than shelled wheel designs. Dennis Hagov made it seem like tire change is a nightmare but EUC ADV showed that the entire upper chassis comes out as one unit (bars, controller, lights etc). The Abrams likely has its design flaws but it seems some of its strengths were improperly attributed as negatives. The weight will give this wheel a planted gyro feel as this weight is rotating in the motor. There is no replacement for the wheel size if you need the stability. Sherman is a good size but definitely at 60kmh , it’s stable going straight or slight bends but can sustain wobbles if the ground conditions change. 22” wheel should be dramatically more stable carving at speed and over bumps. The Abrams doesn’t show off any significant tech advancements but it does advance many aspects of Sherman wheel design that will be appreciated by “veteran” riders. 22” tire, 3500w motor, more resilient controller, tubeless, larger bearing, stronger axle, easier tire change, modular access to wheel well, USB. With the body on chassis design, this wheel might also be a good platform for modding community? After this post, I will go for a test of it’s reported cut out issue and then a gentle 70km loop into the city core. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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