Mango Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Abrams is a sleeping giant. Not many people realize how ground-breaking the design and ethos Veteran is bringing to the EUC table. Everyone is too short-sighted focusing on its battery capacity, speed or size. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Paul Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Mango said: Abrams is a sleeping giant. Not many people realize how ground-breaking the design and ethos Veteran is bringing to the EUC table. Everyone is too short-sighted focusing on its battery capacity, speed or size. As much as I want to believe this it's clear it's got some teething issues with their first batch here. Now that I appreciate what a 22+" wheel brings, I feel like the options out there are so limiting. Just the monster pro, v3 or abrams, and the qc issues out of the gate make it a gamble to buy as of right now. I hope they get them sorted, but they've got their work cut out for them before I buy one now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfiniteWheelie Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Mango said: Abrams is a sleeping giant. Not many people realize how ground-breaking the design and ethos Veteran is bringing to the EUC table. Everyone is too short-sighted focusing on its battery capacity, speed or size. 4 hours ago, Denny Paul said: As much as I want to believe this it's clear it's got some teething issues with their first batch here. Now that I appreciate what a 22+" wheel brings, I feel like the options out there are so limiting. Just the monster pro, v3 or abrams, and the qc issues out of the gate make it a gamble to buy as of right now. I hope they get them sorted, but they've got their work cut out for them before I buy one now. I agree with you guys, these larger wheels are the future but the quality/consistency just isn't there yet. There are so many benefits to large wheels such as; more range, power, stability, safety, comfort, seated riding etc. The Abrams has a 17" rim, Monster Pro 18". There are motorcycle tires widely available up to 19" and 21" rims, so we're not even at the limit yet. I'll be keeping an eye out for high quality large wheels in the future, but I won't be buying the current group. Edited February 19, 2022 by InfiniteWheelie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hillary Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) How are you guys finding the pedals? I'm spoiled by spiked pedals as grippy as the Murland Fish plates on my EXN, and I was finding the Abrams spikes grippy ENOUGH...until I tried to ride in snow boots. Then these pedals felt like sheet metal; the spikes didn't make contact at all. What can we do? There's no after market support I'm aware of since the pedal axel and pedal hangar design looks unique to me. The size is great, it's the grippiness I'm having issues with. Edited February 21, 2022 by Dan Hillary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawpie Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 41 minutes ago, Dan Hillary said: What can we do? There's no after market support I'm aware of since the pedal axel and pedal hangar design looks unique to me. Contact Chris Chaput (abec11@gmail.com). He's making custom machined pedals that have hanger attachments unique to each wheel. I doubt he has Abrams yet, but if there's interest I'm sure he'll get right to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Dan Hillary said: How are you guys finding the pedals? I'm really enjoying the spike pedals big step up from my stock pedals on my RS. They are just grippy enjoy that I feel planted but I can still move my feet around when I ride and how big they are is nice too. Road in some rain for the first time today and they are a step up from grip tape for sure. The more I've been riding it the more I've been enjoying it in general. It's really suited for the 35 and 40mph roads with no bike lanes I'm stuck with where I live. The width has already started to feel fine now that I've taken the stock pads off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kekafuch Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) This cut out looks a bit concerning as there wasn’t any warning and the speed was not high. Edited February 22, 2022 by Kekafuch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Paul Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, Kekafuch said: This cut out looks a bit concerning as there wasn’t any warning and the speed was not high. considering that this youtuber was one of the few with a thoroughly positive review, this is especially disappointing news 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Bless Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Damn. I'm on the fence between the Abrams and Monster pro. Seeing these cutouts happen to a few people is concerning especially since I ride in traffic. Would hate to cutout getting to work or home. Hope Veteran figure this out soon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpd Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Any word on why the abrams cutout? I was feeling pretty confident on mine, but now I’m not so sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kekafuch Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Jpd said: Any word on why the abrams cutout? I was feeling pretty confident on mine, but now I’m not so sure I am hoping it was something simple as a rock jammed in the wheel and then it got knocked out when the wheel tumbled so they didn’t see what happened. I would have taken the Abrams out for some quick evening rides but I don’t plan to until we hear back from EUC Adventures. Sounds like they sent the wheel back to the retailer or Veteran today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpd Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Kekafuch said: I am hoping it was something simple as a rock jammed in the wheel and then it got knocked out when the wheel tumbled so they didn’t see what happened. I would have taken the Abrams out for some quick evening rides but I don’t plan to until we hear back from EUC Adventures. Sounds like they sent the wheel back to the retailer or Veteran today. Let’s hope it was something like that. I will probably avoid riding mine as well until we have some answers. I’ve had an unexplained cutout before on an exn. I have been a little hesitant to trust a wheel since then, that’s why I bought the abrams thinking it was a better quality wheel 🤞 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeforester Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeforester Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) Good candidate for a mitigation bumper like Splyce guard I think, it seems it needs a little protection from itself, given its weight? I got the local blacksmith make up a ‘constructable/adjustable’ variation on this theme for my Sherman, hopefully not too heavy duty, so it ‘gives’ after taking the bump, assuming the velcro will keep it in place, not that I’m a flyer, but anyhow… Edited February 28, 2022 by Freeforester 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kekafuch Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Just a thought on the EUC Adventures cutout… Veteran Sherman controller would cut out if the 5V power was shorted by pulling/inserting the connector while the power is on. There are 2 videos from EUC Upgrades that bring attention that the rear Abrams light is not water sealed. The latest video where he breaks down a crashed Abrams has water inside the rear light. I am wondering if EUC Adventurers cutout could be caused by water inside the rear light causing a short and the controller to reset? He says the EUC was able to turn on and self balance afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercurio Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Interesting theory @Kekafuch. Kevin of EUC UPGRADES also mentions that the rear light board also gets battery voltage. I don't know if it's because the charging ports are in the same area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Just posted: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kekafuch Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Interesting comparison today riding Abrams 2700wh and Sherman 3200wh. Both full charged and riding together. 70km ride at 29.4kmh avg speed. At the end of the ride, Sherman was 85.5V and Abrams 85V. Rider on Abrams is also the heavier rider but close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Silver Posted March 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) Was doing a speed test after printing some new pads in TPU and I decided to do a heavy breaking test from 40mph so I could have a reference for how much distance I needed when stopping at that speed so I know how far to stay behind cars and that type of thing. It was a bit impromptu so I wasn't filming it but I wish I was because I ended up cutting out and sliding on the roll bar about 10-15 feet. I had heard people talking about how it was hard to break or slow down on the Abrams but I have found it pretty easy but just watch out not to over do it. I was able to stop in about 10 parking spaces, so about 80ft which isn't bad in an emergency I guess. Though, I need a new wallet now as I just sanded mine down a good bit. The scrap line from the roll bar and part of my blue jeans. Bent the bar back a bit. Edited March 10, 2022 by Silver Fixing Images 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Bless Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Daaaammmnnn!!!! Hope your ok bro. That seems pretty bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Mars Bless said: Daaaammmnnn!!!! Hope your ok bro. That seems pretty bad. I'm fine, I had slowed down a lot by the time it cut out. It tore open my back pocket and scraped up my wallet but I was unscathed. The wheel was fine too other then the damage to the back roll bar nothing else on it touched the ground since I was holding on to it the whole time as I slid to a stop. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kekafuch Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Silver said: I'm fine, I had slowed down a lot by the time it cut out. It tore open my back pocket and scraped up my wallet but I was unscathed. The wheel was fine too other then the damage to the back roll bar nothing else on it touched the ground since I was holding on to it the whole time as I slid to a stop. was this cut out from user error or malfunctioning hardware? Sounds like over torquing the wheel. Did the wheel beep before cutting out? Of course curious about the firmware on the wheel and where the wheel is purchased from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 44 minutes ago, Kekafuch said: was this cut out from user error or malfunctioning hardware? Sounds like over torquing the wheel. Did the wheel beep before cutting out? Of course curious about the firmware on the wheel and where the wheel is purchased from? Depends if you consider over torqueing the wheel user error. It didn't beep before cutting out and technically it wasn't a cut out in the since it didn't turn off it was just overpowered and dipped to the point that I was touching the ground. It then made the beep for passing the cut off angle and stopped trying to balance. Not that that matters as it was already too late at that that point anyways. From my tests there is no alarm for over torqueing the wheel it's only based on speed, because nonmatter how much I over power it and make it dip in both acceleration and breaking it doesn't beep. I've tried to use the EUC world safety margin alarm in hopes that it will trigger on over acceleration but I've had no luck with that as well. I'm on version 2.0.02 and it got it from ewheels in there first batch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercurio Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) What you describe @Silver is like the Sherman alarms. Only the high speed inverter load or PWM at 70% is implemented. All the other scenarios: over torque, over current, over temperature scenarios are not there. Anything else doesn't make the wheel beep, so if you accelerate or brake too hard it'll just dip (or burn) It's fine most of the time on the Sherman which has loads of torque at all but the slowest speeds, but not that great on the Abrams. Edited March 11, 2022 by supercurio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Hillary Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/10/2022 at 6:26 PM, Silver said: Was doing a speed test after printing some new pads in TPU and I decided to do a heavy breaking test from 40mph so I could have a reference for... Excellent data point, thanks for sharing and glad you're unharmed! May I ask your riding weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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