Circuitmage Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I saw that post, was thinking there was some updated information. Maybe there is another setting that I need to check that got changed after FW update. I dont ever recall a "red light while charging" option though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Just now, Circuitmage said: I saw that post, was thinking there was some updated information. Maybe there is another setting that I need to check that got changed after FW update. I dont ever recall a "red light while charging" option though. if there is it eludes me.... ive never heard of this before but perhaps someone else has had this happen and didnt mention it? lol.. seems like something that would be brought up immediately if that was a normal thing though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 The front light- the one on the same side of the wheel as my on off button lights up red when I am charging. Not sure about the fan as I have the ewheels quick charger and it’s got a fan that is much louder than the internal fan of the wheel. I don’t think I would have noticed if the fan on the wheel is on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seba Posted February 29, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 29, 2020 8 hours ago, Circuitmage said: I saw that post, was thinking there was some updated information. Maybe there is another setting that I need to check that got changed after FW update. I dont ever recall a "red light while charging" option though. Because this is not a feature, but a bug. At least I don's see any point in turning red light that is light sensor dependent. 2.0 firmware contains some new features and some bugs. Some features are not listed in release notes (like not engaging motor just after wheel is turned on if it's not fully upright). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circuitmage Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 19 hours ago, Joker10 said: The front light- the one on the same side of the wheel as my on off button lights up red when I am charging. Not sure about the fan as I have the ewheels quick charger and it’s got a fan that is much louder than the internal fan of the wheel. I don’t think I would have noticed if the fan on the wheel is on. Thanks for confirming. The fan is on just for a second right after plugged in. I havent ridden much since update, prob will in morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGPro856 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Be aware that if you hit the power button to try to turn off that red light while charging with firmware 2.0 your wheel will turn on and the motor will spin as soon as the charge cycle is finished or the charger is unplugged. Hopefully the next firmware update will fix this safety issue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 That’s good to know CGPro856. Thanks for the warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ..... Posted March 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Having ridden a little with the new firmware 2.0 on my 18L. The top speed tiltback at 31mph is almost perfect. I was worried about it, but even the first time it hit me, It was very gentle and didnt upset my balance (or lack of) in any way. I was shocked that I wasnt shocked at all. I have a single beep set at 30mph and tiltback at 31mph. I ride winding and tight mountain roads with altitude variances, and it seems the limit is serving its purpose. I just ride as aggressively as I feel like and the wheel calmly remind me when Im asking for trouble. I also notice the tilback changes to 28mph or so, as I start getting lower on battery. Again, this tiltback is only an annoyance as it tells me I cant go faster. Hitting tiltback at 31mph thru a uneven mountain turn isnt even anything to fear. Fwiw, I ride in 'hard' mode and have since day one. I also note that the red brake light that goes on while charging, only comes on when the sensor is in darkness. I can get the light to swap sides by rolling the off/charging wheel. The brake light is NO indication of state of charge and stays on whenever my charger is plugged in (and its dark). My trolley handle works fine, its also of the older pressure sensor type. I upgraded to the XL trolley, but the sensors remain. 2.0 must auto calibrate and it works. It is a little sensitive as sometimes it thinks Im lifting the wheel, when Im merely bent over to grab it if i step off a little abruptly. Again, not an issue, works as intended. I havent had any issue with the wheel connecting to EUCW and staying connected thru bluetooth. I use a stupidly cheap and crappy cell phone. Bluetooth range isnt good, but it reconnects without issue. I dont know if this is FW related or just lucky, but it works. Battery reporting seems accurate. Both my wheel and the EUCW seem to be in near agreement with levels I am seeing. For now, I really cant see much reason to ever upgrade. It seems that FW 2.0 is hitting all the boxes I need checked off. Unless some MAJOR development comes along, that enhances power delivery on the same old hardware, I dont imagine I'll ever need to bother logging into the KS app again on this wheel, nor shall I need to roll the dice on yet another fw update. The next logical update after this one, would be another wheel. If the KS18L doesnt fit your needs NOW, you probably need to look elsewhere, as this pony is probably at the top of its classes game atm. Edited March 4, 2020 by ShanesPlanet 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travsformation Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 7 hours ago, ShanesPlanet said: If the KS18L doesnt fit your needs NOW, you probably need to look elsewhere, as this pony is probably at the top of its classes game atm. Excellent summary! I also have trouble imagining how it could get any better than this, aside from a little polishing ans bug-squashing (light modes, etc.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circuitmage Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) @ShanesPlanet I agree with your statements. I have only ridden with 2.0 a couple times now, but it seems to make faster speed smoother. I also set one warning, I think around 25mph and tiltback higher. I personally had a lot of problems when my lift sensors were activated, so I run with them disabled. The upgrade to FW 2.0 on the EUCW app was perfectly smooth for me as well. And yes...I did also note the battery level indication was more realistic. I have gotten used to running my battery down to ~40% and then noticing a drastic performance change. I just so happened to upgrade FW when the battery was showing 50% on the LED's, but the EUCW app showed it was 35% or 38% (can't remember exactly), which makes sense. I tend to always recharge with 3 or 4 LEDs on the wheel. One minor thing....it seems like you have to hold the button down a bit longer to turn it off. Maybe it's just me, but every since installing 2.0, I go to shut off my wheel it it just cycles the lights, so I have to hold it a bit longer. Maybe my imagination. Edited March 4, 2020 by Circuitmage 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 16 hours ago, ShanesPlanet said: I was shocked that I wasnt shocked at all. Tha sums up my impression of the tilt back as well. Major improvement. 2.0 makes me feel so much more comfortable at higher speed, I was hitting 31 mph(27 actually) all over the place last week. I thought I must have forgot to charge and was going slower, but i was maxing it out. Now I want more speed, but will have to wait for king song to upgrade that on a future wheel I guess. As a corollary, I am eating the battery up quicker for the same distance now that I am riding faster. Might have to consider the battery upgrade on the 18l one day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Joker10 said: Tha sums up my impression of the tilt back as well. Major improvement. 2.0 makes me feel so much more comfortable at higher speed, I was hitting 31 mph(27 actually) all over the place last week. I thought I must have forgot to charge and was going slower, but i was maxing it out. Now I want more speed, but will have to wait for king song to upgrade that on a future wheel I guess. As a corollary, I am eating the battery up quicker for the same distance now that I am riding faster. Might have to consider the battery upgrade on the 18l one day. EXACTLY! I too began to think that a battery upgrade would be in my future. $800 is a HUGE amount tho, about 1/2 what the wheel cost me. I figured I'd wait until this battery shows some signs of aging. By then, there may be a newer model out. With xl pedals and trolley, i have a basic XL, less 500wah of battery or 30% less. Even if i got an xl, im betting it would be a week and I'd still want more battery. Im now eyeballing a 'fast charger' instead. The real solution would be to win the lotto and own duplicates. There are larger wheels, but im not so keen on lugging more weight. Edited March 5, 2020 by ShanesPlanet 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 That’s what I settled on. I really love my ewheels fast charger. I usually charge to 90% and it usually lasts me for half a week. On the weekends I might do a 100% charge for a long ride, and if I need to I throw it in a backpack and stop and charge it at 5 amps, when I stop to get some food. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supafast Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 i updated my ks18xl to new firmware via kingsong app, and its locked my wheel speed to 20km/h! any ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Supafast said: i updated my ks18xl to new firmware via kingsong app, and its locked my wheel speed to 20km/h! any ideas unlock it? xD is it preventing you from moving the slider?? did it reset km or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supafast Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Rywokast said: unlock it? xD is it preventing you from moving the slider?? did it reset km or something? it won't let me move the slider setting past 20km/h, and kept giving error in chinese. i deleted the app from my lg phone, and installed in my new samsung phone and it works. im able to move slider till 50km/h. i was freaking out lol. thanks for the reply bud. =) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rywokast Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Supafast said: it won't let me move the slider setting past 20km/h, and kept giving error in chinese. i deleted the app from my lg phone, and installed in my new samsung phone and it works. im able to move slider till 50km/h. i was freaking out lol. thanks for the reply bud. =) aah, the shitty app.. no surprise there.. should install euc world so much better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circuitmage Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Mine did that after update, but I was able to just move the sliders in EUC world. No issues with 2.0 update (save for the RED light on during charging and perhaps slightly slower off button presses). Seems to ride great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatmustache Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 On 1/9/2020 at 6:24 PM, ShanesPlanet said: Until my update gets reverted or something changes, im stuck with a VERY slow wheel. @ShanesPlanet did you ever resolve this somehow? Im wondering if I should update my ks18xl to 2.0 or not. I'll be using the EUC world app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Thatmustache said: @ShanesPlanet did you ever resolve this somehow? Im wondering if I should update my ks18xl to 2.0 or not. I'll be using the EUC world app Yes, it has worked perfectly since I managed to update to fw 2.0 I used the Kingsong app and updated, but that was before they removed it and changed it. I just got lucky and the app happened to be working that day and the FW to 2.0 went smoothly. Once I got the update, i promptly switched over to EUCW and havent looked back. I think some of my speed setting issue was attributed to wrong settings(my fault). I can't comment on how the KS app works now, but i can say that the fw 2.0 is a noticeable improvement to me. I like to keep it simple. I have both an ipad mini2 and a cheap droid device, just for these kind of random incedents. If you are on droid, i THINK eucw supports firmware and KS very well, I trust @Seba track record over KS on that. You can also check DB, but i dont know if it has FW updates, I found it lacking in the version i tried. If it were me, I'd definitely try to use EUCW to update. I trust Seba to try and help should it need arise, and FW 2.0 is a delight to ride. VERY smooth tiltback at 31mph and quiet acceleration(all opinion of course). I dont know if the XL whines like my 18L used to, but that was noticeably different as well. Beware! I hear that pre 2.0 would allow you to 'calibrate; the pedals at angle for rider preference. Since 2.0, the KS has to be calibrated level. I personally used level from day one, so this effected me zilcho.*Remember to reset your speed limits and tiltback and allow it to AUTO calibrate the trolley. Calibrate the wheel level, as best you can, for best performance... Ride like the wind, share us the eucw tours! Edited April 15, 2020 by ShanesPlanet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryziss Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Hi! I am considering the 18L and I can't find an up to date number for the real life range. What is it like for you right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Kryziss said: Hi! I am considering the 18L and I can't find an up to date number for the real life range. What is it like for you right now? What is the Wh/km of your current riding style? Calculating from that is the closest you can get without actually riding the wheel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganappetto Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 8:49 AM, seage said: Hey all, so i did what @meepmeepmayer mentioned and did a purposeful extreme calibration. Now i didnt calibrate it on its side or something funky. It was actually pretty much perfectly straight, but i tilted it far back, and figured id make a quick video outlining what happens on turning. The ground in my garage flows downwards slightly, you know, no flooding, so on. So i did notice a difference in the level when uphill, downhill and sideways (level). When i pushed the wheel the opposite direction, it kept the same angle. Only when i turned 180 or even 90 degrees did it shift. Maybe this is how its always balanced, but i didnt notice before? I like how my thumbnails no longer show up on here...whyyy? On 1/12/2020 at 8:49 AM, seage said: Hey all, so i did what @meepmeepmayer mentioned and did a purposeful extreme calibration. Now i didnt calibrate it on its side or something funky. It was actually pretty much perfectly straight, but i tilted it far back, and figured id make a quick video outlining what happens on turning. The ground in my garage flows downwards slightly, you know, no flooding, so on. So i did notice a difference in the level when uphill, downhill and sideways (level). When i pushed the wheel the opposite direction, it kept the same angle. Only when i turned 180 or even 90 degrees did it shift. Maybe this is how its always balanced, but i didnt notice before? I like how my thumbnails no longer show up on here...whyyy? Hello my friend, I ve same issue of you. Could you tell me how you fix it? many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 29 minutes ago, Ganappetto said: Hello my friend, I ve same issue of you. Could you tell me how you fix it? many thanks @seage continued this topic in seems he found no fix? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganappetto Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 So, no fix is possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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