Unventor Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: I'm very impressed with the KS18XL. For how I ride, it never gave me tilt-back, even after the very long rides and low battery. And after multiple range tests I concluded that the XL has about 10-percent more range than the MSuper line of wheels. Jason's letting me buy the test wheel that went across the country. Maybe since it's used that doesn't count towards my total I just wounder one thing @Marty Backe. Do you do something specific to maintain batteries on those wheels as you can't possibly ride all and drain battery on all each day, maybe even each week either, since you buy biggest battery options. Sorry Marty, a secound question slipped in here at end, have you ever tested KS14S and KS16S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 @Unventor He has a 14S. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: @Unventor He has a 14S. I recalled it as a KS14D but I am wrong on occasion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Marty and 420Wh? He's no scrub 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted January 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Rehab1 said: 20,000!!! Congrats Marty!! Thanks I'm not sure I should be congratulated. I think it might mean that I need to get a life I do have a lot of fun here, and it feels kind of like an extended family 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, meepmeepmayer said: Wow, I'm surprised. Now finally you can sell your old msuper V3 and still have a backup 18 incher. "Only" 10% difference is in line with the diode of evil in your MSX. So both wheels seem to have the same range under normal circumstances. Chooch-used, indeed. But if the price is good... If I were rich, that's what I'd do. Contact every manufacturer and say "you got something, send one over, here's my CC" *smug smile*. I wondered at first if Marty had somehow spent $20k on wheels. Not quite there yet... or is he? - To stay on topic: I'm sure the next wheel will be a Gotway again. It's called Nikola (or Nicola? Nicole? Something like that.). I actually tested the XL against the MSX and MSuper V3s+. It was the MSuper test that clearly demonstrated a 10-percent advantage for the XL. There's just no doubt in my mind that the XL is superior in terms of efficiency. Maybe KingSong has superior motors? I suppose 10-percent could qualify for "only", but in my book that's an additional ~5-miles which is nothing to sneeze at for us long distance riders. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Unventor said: I just wounder one thing @Marty Backe. Do you do something specific to maintain batteries on those wheels as you can't possibly ride all and drain battery on all each day, maybe even each week either, since you buy biggest battery options. Sorry Marty, a secound question slipped in here at end, have you ever tested KS14S and KS16S? No, I do nothing to protect my batteries. A long time ago I decided that I would enjoy my wheels instead of babying them and worrying about the battery health. I charge the wheel that I just used (sometimes forgetting to unplug the charger for a day or so). and get to when I get to it. Just recently I rode my MSuper V3s+ for the first time in ~3-months. The battery had dropped from 100-percent to 97-percent. Still seems great again. I am trying to make an effort to not let any wheel go unridden for over a month. It is fun to have such a variety to pick from, and to sometimes stand there looking at all the wheels and struggle as to which one I want to ride. First-world problems I know 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: Maybe KingSong has superior motors? Probably a "smoother" motor control algorithm with less harsh peaks etc. Maybe that's why GW is doing the same with the Nikola - to not fall behind KS in efficiency/battery usage after they observed that (I'm sure these two companies with their common history eye another very closely). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Rehab1 said: It’s easy! Just buy 13 wheels from @Jason McNeil. I will need to start Busking for that to happen 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 @Marty Backe well done on exceeding 20K on here, you should rename yourself Topdog! 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, ED209 said: I will need to start Busking for that to happen 😂 Ooh, a new word I've never heard before 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Marty Backe said: I actually tested the XL against the MSX and MSuper V3s+. It was the MSuper test that clearly demonstrated a 10-percent advantage for the XL. There's just no doubt in my mind that the XL is superior in terms of efficiency. Maybe KingSong has superior motors? I suppose 10-percent could qualify for "only", but in my book that's an additional ~5-miles which is nothing to sneeze at for us long distance riders. Oooh! Extra milage i like that 😀 I'll be glad when my z10 comes because when it's my day off and I've done 30+miles on the msx in 2/3 hours i can get the z10 out and have more fun😁. I'll have to start taking my fast charger with me it's 5amp and stop for an Hour see how much it charges up . For me an euc over 2000wh would be great 😁😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, stephen said: Oooh! Extra milage i like that 😀 I'll be glad when my z10 comes because when it's my day off and I've done 30+miles on the msx in 2/3 hours i can get the z10 out and have more fun😁. I'll have to start taking my fast charger with me it's 5amp and stop for an Hour see how much it charges up . For me an euc over 2000wh would be great 😁😁 I see a Monster in your future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: I see a Monster in your future I have been looking 😊 is the a new version out yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, wheelr said: You ain't seen nothing... Meet the Gotway Nikole: Speaking of incorrect ways to spell Nikola, take a look at the video file name, above. Oh, the Humanity. I'm not going to congratulate @Marty Backe on 20,000 likes, I must have given him about 1,000 of them Congrats, Marty Damn it!!! Edited January 18, 2019 by Smoother 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafal Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 14 hours ago, Marty Backe said: I actually tested the XL against the MSX and MSuper V3s+. It was the MSuper test that clearly demonstrated a 10-percent advantage for the XL. There's just no doubt in my mind that the XL is superior in terms of efficiency. Maybe KingSong has superior motors? I suppose 10-percent could qualify for "only", but in my book that's an additional ~5-miles which is nothing to sneeze at for us long distance riders. Higher speed, more power, better acceleration, wider tire. Here is the missing 10%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Rafal said: Higher speed, more power, better acceleration, wider tire. Here is the missing 10%. However, I rode both wheels the same - I'm posting a video shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 7 hours ago, stephen said: I have been looking 😊 is the a new version out yet? No. Maybe 2019? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I don't know if this has been posted but here's a nikola teardown https://ecodrift.ru/2018/12/29/gotway-nikola-disassembling-english-version/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafal Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 4:58 PM, Marty Backe said: However, I rode both wheels the same - I'm posting a video shortly. I am sure you do Marty. For example: wider tire have higher rolling resistance and more power available almost always drive to more energy consumption. Just my experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegoxxx Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Nie do końca tak jak piszes nie odczuwam zmiany Rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nic Posted January 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) On 1/21/2019 at 1:09 PM, Rafal said: I am sure you do Marty. For example: wider tire have higher rolling resistance and more power available almost always drive to more energy consumption. Just my experience. That myth has been proven wrong for years now. In fact the only downsides to wider tyres are the increased weight and air resistance. On the plus side wider tyres have lower rolling resistance, better grip, more comfort, longer tread life and better puncture resistance. https://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/latest-news/165-wider-tyres-go-faster Edited January 25, 2019 by Nic 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Nic said: That myth has been proven wrong for years now. In fact the only downsides to wider tyres are the increased weight and air resistance. On the plus side wider tyres have lower rolling resistance, better grip, more comfort and longer tread life. https://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/latest-news/165-wider-tyres-go-faster Yeah, I didn't think that was true either; not for bicycle style tyres anyway. Interesting article. A pity no one proof read it; it's full of typos and grammar errors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Smoother said: Yeah, I didn't think that was true either; not for bicycle style tyres anyway. Interesting article. A pity no one proof read it; it's full of typos and grammar errors. Yes, I know what you mean ... here's your report. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmyers Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I don't know if anyone's posted this, but if anyone wants to pick up the Nikola it's for sale on eBay...for $20,000 https://www.ebay.com/itm/GotWay-new-unicycle-Nikola-17-inch-electric-unicycle/254060376725?hash=item3b272db295:m:mdLMBVIDRmZAz0XMsFapFDg:rk:16:pf:0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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