Zalagator Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Jean eRide.ie Community said: @Cerbera Looking at the top part, it looks like it is plastic almost fully covered by foam. Yup, even though we've only seen the render, it looks to be the same basic design and materials as the Master, which makes sense given its moniker. There will defiantly be a place for upgraded armor, which while it will add a couple pounds, it will be well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Zalagator said: upgraded armor, which while it will add a couple pounds, it will be well worth it. You're not wrong - imagine the damage something that heavy could wreak on itself if it bounces down hills like we've seen some of those Masters doing... The pads look like they protect the front of the battery packs more than the back, so I think I'd be metal plating the packs under the padding, and addinf bumper strip on top of that wherever there weren't full leg pads covering. I wonder if they have done anything to stop the entire top section detaching and flying off as we have also seen a good few of the more spectacular Master disasters ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post houseofjob Posted August 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) On 8/15/2022 at 5:25 AM, EMA said: the weight affect the dynamics but it's not an issue if you have the skill. for sure it's an issue if you need to lift it. 22" is a nich size for a very little percentage of riders in the world but it's absolutely amazing. people who have not owned a monster in the past will never be able to understand this kind of wheels 22, 24, still too small, I want 32!!!! This forum has so many newbies now, no one remembers when the EUC forums circa 2016-ish were b*tching and moaning about how 18 "was too big!" wahwah. And now, 18 is like a standard tire sizing smh. On 8/15/2022 at 10:50 AM, meepmeepmayer said: ewheels is offering a "high-powered pack" 40T variant with 3840Wh. Who needs higher discharge cells (?) on an 8p wheel? This makes no sense, does it? Moar Powr!!! I get what you mean, but I really want a version that isn't the now has-been 50E's, but rather the best-in-class 50S's which is never gonna happen smh I don't get why EUC "cutting edge tech!" always has to get sloppy seconds on battery cells, when that's one of the most key factors. 50E, 40T, P42A are like big brother hand-me-down cells in Lithium world age, why are we not already on Mooch-approved 50S and P45B?!? On 8/16/2022 at 5:12 PM, Jean eRide.ie Community said: The Monster was always 22in,until the Monster Pro arrived at 24in. Pro= extra 2in T4 Pro = Master On 8/16/2022 at 7:34 PM, meepmeepmayer said: AAAAH I never realized these actually have different rim sizes! They do! It's not just the tire! This tells me there is still room for a more extreme wheel with a 24 inch tire instead. Master ProPro (can't argue with your Pro math)? Monster Pro V2? 65kg here we come! Bleh, outer diameter sizing is for kid's bikes I believe it's: Monster Series v1-3 = 17" rim (guessing this is what Maestro Pro will use then) Monster Pro = 18" rim On 8/16/2022 at 1:00 PM, Zalagator said: The Master Pro is basically that. I would be surprised if GW split the market even more by releasing this as well. The main difference being the slightly larger wheel of the MPro. Is 22" vs 24" really enough to release another model? Nope, hard disagree. A Monster Pro Pro 24 would not introduce the +20 or so LBs of suspension infrastructure (fudgstimate based on ecodrift technoblog post) that someone like me, who doesn't really see the need or want in a big wheel with suspension (will gladly take like a mini-meister 10 or 12 with sus tho), so that I can have less chance of a herniated disc fracture on the occasion I need to lift the Moana Pro up a flight of NYC Penn station stairs when the escalator is out of order. Plus, not to mention the "better" "durable" shell (never thought I would say this about such a historically shitty shell paradigm), compared to the paper mache Meister Pro template copy-and-paste. And Gotway has a well documented history of splitting their market! ACM 16 sat right next to Tesla 16, which now sits right next to Nikola 16 which now will sit right next to T4 Pro Judgement Day 16! Also, everyone always forgets in these arguments, bigger tire size = more aftermarket tire swap options. While 17" "22" rim has more options than the smaller scooter and kid's bmx tire sizings you must dabble in when the EUC is 16 or less, the options go up even more with 18" "24" because this actually starts to be a legit small motorcycle tire size, not just scooters any more. Edited August 18, 2022 by houseofjob 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtahRider Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Zalagator said: The Master Pro is basically that. I would be surprised if GW split the market even more by releasing this as well. The main difference being the slightly larger wheel of the MPro. Is 22" vs 24" really enough to release another model? I would love Begode to release a 134v MPro next just to watch mrelwood go nuts! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 6 hours ago, UtahRider said: I would love Begode to release a 134v MPro next just to watch mrelwood go nuts! Despite being a Gotway thread, I personally don't give a rodent's behind what GW is doing, other than how it affects the more reasonable manufacturers. Yes, I think that the top speeds being reached nowadays are completely nuts, and at worst may transform the community image from goofy new tech nerds to feared and despised outlaw gangs. But I have no illusion of being able to slap anyone into their senses. Just like with wearing or not wearing gear. What I do care about is that the developement wouldn't stop for the larger market sectors. Some of the riders are just so humourously easy to please. As long as the top speed is higher even by just a few mph, nothing else matters, and the wheel must be owned at any cost. Suspension or not, tire size, ride feel, ride modes... no matter, "you get used to it after a few months anyway". I feel like I demand so much more from my next wheel. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, mrelwood said: Some of the riders are just so humourously easy to please. As long as the top speed is higher even by just a few mph, nothing else matters, and the wheel must be owned at any cost. Suspension or not, tire size, ride feel, ride modes... no matter, "you get used to it after a few months anyway". I feel like I demand so much more from my next wheel. Now you get it. 😊 Manufacturers build what the market wants. Let say you want to join a typical group ride. Should you bring a V8. Exactly, you would be left behind before the next intersection. How about an S18. Well, you may fair better, but only if you don’t being mind being near the tail end of the pack. But still, before the next recharge break, you will have to bail, and find a means to get home. Go big or go home, unless you want to ride alone in a group ride. This reminds me of a group ride for newbies. The organizer says all are welcome. Only one Ninja 250 showed up. The group started during rush hour. That rider was left behind and never to be seen again in less than 10 seconds. But what if you want to be at the front of the pack. Sherman’s have been popular. And EX.N’s too. The Master should be catching on. With the escalating ego’s mixed in, great acceleration and braking, along with good range and top speed machines would be desirable. Another scenario would the desire to bomb around on a single wheel motorcycle. Edited August 17, 2022 by techyiam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Brahan Seer Posted August 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2022 In the wild.. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalagator Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, The Brahan Seer said: In the wild... Awesome, thanks for posting that. Nice to see someone who is sub 200 lbs riding it. I can't wait to get my feet on one :-D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercurio Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 hours ago, The Brahan Seer said: In the wild.. Oh, it is wider than I expected. Ergonomics will then be a differentiator between the V13 which seemed to have limiting the width as design target, and the Master Pro 22 which looks as wide as S22 or wider in this footage. Changing the pads configuration might help tho. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wstuart Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 9 hours ago, mrelwood said: Despite being a Gotway thread, I personally don't give a rodent's behind what GW is doing, other than how it affects the more reasonable manufacturers. Yes, I think that the top speeds being reached nowadays are completely nuts, and at worst may transform the community image from goofy new tech nerds to feared and despised outlaw gangs. But I have no illusion of being able to slap anyone into their senses. Just like with wearing or not wearing gear. What I do care about is that the developement wouldn't stop for the larger market sectors. Some of the riders are just so humourously easy to please. As long as the top speed is higher even by just a few mph, nothing else matters, and the wheel must be owned at any cost. Suspension or not, tire size, ride feel, ride modes... no matter, "you get used to it after a few months anyway". I feel like I demand so much more from my next wheel. I don't get the impression that the huge battery and motor is about top speed here. It's about having a monster size wheel that isn't punished by terrible low end torque....... oh and has decent range...... oh and with any size rider. If a rider wants crazy top speed, get a Master. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtahRider Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 55 minutes ago, supercurio said: Oh, it is wider than I expected. Ergonomics will then be a differentiator between the V13 which seemed to have limiting the width as design target, and the Master Pro 22 which looks as wide as S22 or wider in this footage. Changing the pads configuration might help tho. A somewhat wider foot stance feels better to me so this is a plus, again, for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahan Seer Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 spec sheet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahan Seer Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 38 minutes ago, wstuart said: I don't get the impression that the huge battery and motor is about top speed here. It's about having a monster size wheel that isn't punished by terrible low end torque....... oh and has decent range...... oh and with any size rider. I tend to agree, having a wheel that could potentially go say 100 miles at say 25-30MPH would be a nice option to consider although I doubt we would get this high a range, we will have to wait and see how close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 I agree, it would be brilliant to not have to charge or indeed carry a charger for a 100 mile ride. I'm just not sure I could put up with the size of the Master Pro for the type of riding I do. And I certainly couldn't stomach what will probably be a £4.5k price tag What a wheel though, amazing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean eRide.ie Community Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Brahan Seer said: I tend to agree, having a wheel that could potentially go say 100 miles at say 25-30MPH would be a nice option to consider although I doubt we would get this high a range, we will have to wait and see how close. 80mi minimum at those speeds, based on my EX20S experience. Which makes me think that then a fast charger may not be needed, as long as 80mi is enough for me/you to do in 1 day, before a night over at the place, before continuing next day, on a long trip. But I also think there's a chance I may want to do more than 80mi in one day sometimes, which I've already done once with the EX20S and a 10A charger... Which makes me think, is there any 134v fast charger available yet? Haha (edit, found it: https://www.yangmopower.com/li-ion-battery---126v-1344v-5a-8a-10a-lithium-ion-battery-charger-p4255237.html, 8A 2KG option looks good, better than 10A 4KG haha) Edited August 17, 2022 by Jean eRide.ie Community 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhpr262 Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 On 8/15/2022 at 4:50 PM, meepmeepmayer said: ewheels is offering a "high-powered pack" 40T variant with 3840Wh. Who needs higher discharge cells (?) on an 8p wheel? This makes no sense, does it? I guess some people have got money to spare and will automatically get every upgrade they can get, regardless of whether it makes sense or not. And ewheels seems to have discovered this "upgradeitis" as a nice source of extra income. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtahRider Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 22 hours ago, mhpr262 said: I guess some people have got money to spare and will automatically get every upgrade they can get, regardless of whether it makes sense or not. And ewheels seems to have discovered this "upgradeitis" as a nice source of extra income. Yep and I’m grateful to eWheels. A few hundred $ is worth knowing you’ll likely not burn down the house over a $3k toy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gingomx Posted August 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2022 https://imgur.com/a/w7cXOZv Interesting kickstand, and I like the bumpers on the battery casings, and possibly new tail light 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Paul Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Gingomx said: https://imgur.com/a/w7cXOZv Interesting kickstand, and I like the bumpers on the battery casings, and possibly new tail light Photo near the bottom shows the pedal height for the hangers themselves look to be adjustable too. Like on the v12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhpr262 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) The pedals also seem to have a steel reinforcement/protection where they contact the hanger. I wonder if that is a means to adjust the pedal cant? I use somethign looking almost like that on my V10F because the pedal cant it came with from the factory wasnt nearly enough. One pedal actually drooped downwards ever so slightly. Edited August 22, 2022 by mhpr262 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mayhem Posted August 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2022 master x will be released along side the master pro 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) Has Begode become a predatory euc competitor? Within 24 hours of the official V13 debut, the Master Pro was announced. Within two days of EEVEES confirming the existence of Leaper Kim's Sherman-S, the Master X appears. Talk about taking the wind out of someone's sail. Interestingly enough, according to the spec sheet, the only difference between the Master Pro and the Master X is that the X uses a 3600 Wh battery, and thus weighs less, has shorter range, and is priced lower. Yet, they made X into another model, instead as a battery option for the Pro. And what is going to happen to the Extreme Bull, EX20S, Hero customers? Will finding parts going to be an issue going forward? Wasn't the Hero announced near the S20 debut? And the EX20S was announced after the S20 announcement. The Hero has reached end of life, and now it looks like the EX20S has too. And yet eWheels hasn't shipped out their first batch out to their customers. Incidentally, Alibaba.com is asking ~C$4800 for the Master X. Free shipping. T4, Master, Master Pro, Master X, did Begode miss a class? Edited August 30, 2022 by techyiam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I am fascinated how fast Begode responds to the competition... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, techyiam said: T4, Master, Master Pro, Master X, did Begode miss a class? They need a 20" Master with a 3000Wh battery - that will be the sweet spot. Master X - nice try, but no, thanks - it's 8kg too much for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adel Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2022 32 minutes ago, That Guy said: They need a 20" Master with a 3000Wh battery - that will be the sweet spot. Master X - nice try, but no, thanks - it's 8kg too much for me. That wheel will be probably be announced next week 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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