Begode Master Pro 22” 4800wh 134v

[Mango]

Begode releases yet another wheel, the Master Pro.

4800 wh battery

22 inch wheel

4500 watt motor

134.4v system

80mm suspension travel

122 km/h freespin speed

53.5 kg weight

 

Update: Dec 30, 2022

Begode refreshes their Master Pro lineup with revised headlight, metal battery box, revised pads and kickstand, and likely other improvements.

https://forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/29614-master-pro-22”-4800wh/?do=findComment&comment=452256

 

Edited December 30, 2022 by Mango
Added image/revised design

[Denny Paul]

source https://www.facebook.com/groups/ElectricUnicycle/permalink/5348965525201367/?mibextid=893gbd&fs=e&s=cl

Edited August 13, 2022 by Denny Paul

[Cerbera]

Looks like they really listened to some criticisms of the Master hey ? Do those look like metal battery pack cases ?

And they appear to have replaced that rubbish back light arrangement too. If it wasn't so damn heavy I might be putting my master pre-order on hold 2 weeks before it's due to arrive and swapping it for a pre-order on this one ! It does kinda look like this might come out of a high speed crash a lot better than the original...

I enjoyed my 2 weeks of imagining I was going to own the fastest wheel in the world !

Edited August 13, 2022 by Cerbera

[Tawpie]

Dadgum. Step into the birdcage EX20S, you're last weeks newspaper.

[Paradox]

https://alienrides.com/collections/electric-unicycles/products/begode-master-pro-electric-unicycle

[Mars Bless]

4800wh is nuts. This is probably going to get 200 miles of range!!

[meepmeepmayer]

On the one hand, WTF. Makes the EX20S look like a kids' wheel.

On the other hand, 4800Wh is hella cool!!!

The Master name is misleading, this is the Monster tire size.

Also, how tall are these pedals? 27.5cm! Wow.

[dycus]

1 hour ago, Cerbera said:

Looks like they really listened to some criticisms of the Master hey ? Do those look like metal battery pack cases ?

With 4800Wh of batteries and "only" 54kg? I'd definitely bet they're plastic!

[Tawpie]

26 minutes ago, Mars Bless said:

This is probably going to get 200 miles of range!!

Ian at SpeedyFeet will drain it in, oh, 62 miles. Which would be really quite something. Assuming it's comfy enough, it's 'inter-urban' class. Gawd. Gonna want an EV Level 2 charger for sure.

[Mayhem]

Absolutely plastic, given how fragile the current crop of this design is adding another 40lbs (117lbs total)  isn’t going to make this shell more durable 

[UtahRider]

75 mph free spin and not limited and 134v; this is a true 60 mph EUC, even for the heavy riders! 

[Tawpie]

At these speeds, aerodynamics are going to be a deal... so the question is:

Do you get better aero if you wear your spandex over or under your gear?

[mhpr262]

Dear god they have all gone crazy.

[Robse]

4800 w - this will burn like hell (no bad vibes - just ..... )  Hail to the people who have the (now) old master in preoder

[Robse]

27 minutes ago, Tawpie said:

At these speeds, aerodynamics are going to be a deal... so the question is:

Do you get better aero if you wear your spandex over or under your gear?

+ Aerodynamic bicycle shoes

[mrelwood]

And so the bigger-number-is-better race continues. I bet Mr GW/BG looked at the V13 and decided that they're NOT going to stand second in the heaviest wheel contest!

But why do these manufacturers suddenly think that the Monster size class would start selling in any meaningful numbers? I've been around for a good while, and I've seen only one single Monster in my whole life. Yet we have a Monster V3, Monster Pro, EX20S, Abrams, and V13, all but the V3 being brand spanking new models.

For the 18(-"20")" category we have SherMax and S22. For 16", only the upcoming T4. For 14", nothing at all. That's not at all how the markets  would dictate. Are the manufacturers losing the ball, or am I?

[techyiam]

When I said a swift response from Begode, I wasn’t expecting a response within a 24 hours. This is nuts. 

Master Pro matched the motor power and wheel size. Begode gave it more range and priced competitively. 

I wonder why Begode waited for Inmotion V13 debut before releasing the Master Pro. Me thinks, Begode wanted to make sure Inmotion doesn’t steal the performance crown?

It looks like we have a heavy cruiser war in our mist. 

If heavy cruisers are a niche market, and they have split this market, either the naysayers are wrong, or they are going to lose their shirt.

 What are euc addicts to do?

Duf bought a EX20S recently, and just bought a S22. He said that he wasn’t going to get the V13 yet, since he just bought two wheels.

Worthy of note, earlier in July, he also said he had canceled his S22 order with ewheels and will not be buying a S22. But out of the blue, Marty Backe using high pressure selling tactics got Duf to buy a S22 anyways. Me thinks, euc addiction withdrawal response will strike again.

@FrenchUsa has a Sherman Max, a Hero, a Master, and bought a Monster Pro recently. He was quite taken by the Monster Pro. I am waiting for a new video from him to tell us he has preordered both the V13 and the Master Pro.

And don’t forget there is also T4 to round out your fleet.

In 2023, performance means speed. And lots of it.

And lastly, stop encouraging new comers to get a V13 or Master Pro as their first wheel, so they don’t have to upgrade so soon. 🙂

Edited August 13, 2022 by techyiam

[Mars Bless]

From what's been said, they've been working on the Master Pro since February and were ready to announce it.

I would guess once Inmotion did their V13 teaser videos, Begode decided to wait for the unveiling of the V13 before putting the Master Pro out there. 

[techyiam]

29 minutes ago, mrelwood said:

And so the bigger-number-is-better race continues. I bet Mr GW/BG looked at the V13 and decided that they're NOT going to stand second in the heaviest wheel contest!

All I can say to those who are waiting for a new and exciting euc's in a light weight, and low price package, is good luck. 

Well, let us look at the trend.

(1) Veteran:      Sherman, (Sherman Max is really an update), then Abrams. Did the newer wheel got heavier? Most certainly: 77 lbs to 97 lbs.

(2) Inmotion:    V11,  V12, V13;   60 lbs, 64 lbs, 110 lbs.

(3) Kingsong:   older models to S22;   ~53 lbs, 77 lbs.

(4) Begode:      RS to Hero, Master;    60 lbs to 80 lbs

                          Monster Pro to  EX20S to Master Pro;   90 lbs to 103 to 118 lbs.

Outlier:   T4

The latest released wheel is the Begode Master Pro, and it is also the heaviest of all time, 118 lbs.

[techyiam]

If you want to buy the latest and greatest euc,

(1) move if you have to (or learn to wheel it up stairs)

(2) save up

(3) get used to high pedal height, 100+ lbs weight, and gyro effects.

(4) enjoy cushy seated riding

[Denny Paul]

44 minutes ago, mrelwood said:

…

But why do these manufacturers suddenly think that the Monster size class would start selling in any meaningful numbers?…

I think it actually makes a lot of sense for these next level performance wheels.

The most common tire diameter 14” rim diameter wheels has had its reign (call em 18” or 20” wheels, but they’re on the same 14” rim and close to the same size). But these wheels feel limited by stability at top speed. For example, the suspension-less exn can go 45mph+, but it feels death-defying to do on anything but perfect roads. Plenty of zip, but it goes untapped most of the time.

A bigger rim like on the monster v3 (same size as on the soon to be master pro) makes a huge difference in stability. The monster v3 was a so stable I would casually hit the beeps regularly at 40mph. No suspension required, even on chewed up roads. If it could go another 10 mph faster I could have put it to use without much effort. Here we have the opposite problem of the exn: plenty of stability, but not enough zip.

So, I’m personally really excited for the master pro and v13. On paper, it could have both the performance I’ve wanted, and the stability to readily access it. Add to that the benefits of high torque and suspension… high hopes for sure. 

[techyiam]

The Abrams, V13 and the Master Pro have the weight to help fight the wind at higher speeds. 

The 17" rim can be mounted with motorcycle tires. Then add suspension. These wheels should be closer to a small displacement motorcycle replacement PEV. 

I am guessing that Inmotion and Begode are working together to drum up interest for such euc's. 

The 18XL proved that euc's are not just last mile devices.

The Sherman showed that euc's are more capable than just riding in bike lanes, on bike paths and side streets.

Monster Pro, Abrams, V13, Master Pro are wheels manufacturers are using to raise euc's to another performance level. This class of wheels are moving closer to a small motorcycle replacement PEV.

[Hsiang]

55 minutes ago, Denny Paul said:

A bigger rim like on the monster v3 (same size as on the soon to be master pro) makes a huge difference in stability. The monster v3 was a so stable I would casually hit the beeps regularly at 40mph. No suspension required, even on chewed up roads. If it could go another 10 mph faster I could have put it to use without much effort. Here we have the opposite problem of the exn: plenty of stability, but not enough zip.

So, I’m personally really excited for the master pro and v13. On paper, it could have both the performance I’ve wanted, and the stability to readily access it. Add to that the benefits of high torque and suspension… high hopes for sure. 

Exactly! Just because the master is capable of hitting 55 doesn't mean I would feel comfortable doing it. my monster had save my rear end countless time with its added stability and I have been waiting for a long time for a 22" wheel that have the grunt to let me cruise at 45+ and looks like both the V13 and the Master Pro would be it! 

[mrelwood]

1 hour ago, techyiam said:

Well, let us look at the trend.

Well, it's going to stop at some point. There were numerous riders waiting to preorder the V13 but backed out when they heard the weight and tire diameter. Me included.

46 minutes ago, Denny Paul said:

But these wheels feel limited by stability at top speed.

No question. But the polls and EUCW tour data suggest that 60+ kmh riders are a minuscule minority. Yet 67% of the new wheels are aimed at less than 10% of the riders. And all of them weigh more than 30kg while the most sold model is a 14kg V8.

Top speed stability comes at huge costs, so wheels stable at top speed are an unattractive option for the vast majority of riders. They are too heavy to lift, feel like a large hog between your legs, they're not at all agile at slow to slowish speeds, they require hugely more effort to brake, accelerate and climb a hill, they cost twice what used to be a normal price just a year ago, and so on. All of this so that it would be more stable at 90km/h, a speed that only a handful of riders will ever reach. That doesn't sound right.

I'm aware though that the purchasing mentality is quite different in the US vs Europe. Here it's not cool to buy stuff with overly excessive specs, especially if comes at a cost (or several costs in this case) in practicality. I guess I'm waiting for the manufacturers to start catering for the rest of the world again.

[Tawpie]

3 minutes ago, mrelwood said:

the polls and EUCW tour data suggest that 60+ kmh riders are a minuscule minority

❌ party foul!

(clouding the issue with facts)