Herbas Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) I really really appreciate this app! When I turn off my wheel for a minute (e.g., for walking stairs) the app doesn't reconnect itself with the wheel once I turn on it again. I think it was able to do that before (in 1.8 version)? Another question - would any Pebble watch version work with this app? Also, can the app show power usage instead of speed in Pebble? Basically just to see if I'm not too close to overtaxing my wheel. Edited September 23, 2017 by Herbas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARPed1701D Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Herbas said: I really really appreciate this app! When I turn off my wheel for a minute (e.g., for walking stairs) the app doesn't reconnect itself with the wheel once I turn on it again. I think it was able to do that before (in 1.8 version)? Another question - would any Pebble watch version work with this app? Also, can the app show power usage instead of speed in Pebble? Basically just to see if I'm not too close to overtaxing my wheel. I have tried two Pebbles with the app (older and newer) and both worked fine. I wouldn't rely too much on the precise power values shown in Wheellog. No fault of the app but apparently the wheels themselves do not provide values that are reliable due to how and where they measure the consumption values. Edited September 23, 2017 by WARPed1701D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HermanTheGerman Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 4 hours ago, Herbas said: I really really appreciate this app! When I turn off my wheel for a minute (e.g., for walking stairs) the app doesn't reconnect itself with the wheel once I turn on it again. I think it was able to do that before (in 1.8 version)? I assume you have an old Version, where this was really a problem. With the latest Version it works fine again (see download link somewhere above). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koto Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 @palachzzz: A guy is asking for the following feature. Can you make the smartphone rings when we shake it ? In fact, it is just a horn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palachzzz Posted September 24, 2017 Author Share Posted September 24, 2017 @koto, maybe, will think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbas Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 On 9/23/2017 at 7:10 PM, WARPed1701D said: I have tried two Pebbles with the app (older and newer) and both worked fine. I wouldn't rely too much on the precise power values shown in Wheellog. No fault of the app but apparently the wheels themselves do not provide values that are reliable due to how and where they measure the consumption values. Thanks! In regards to power, I understand your point, but wouldn't a screen with power/voltage/battery/ampers give a pretty close reflection of actual wheel load? On 9/23/2017 at 10:10 PM, Asylsteirer said: I assume you have an old Version, where this was really a problem. With the latest Version it works fine again (see download link somewhere above). OK, will try the very latest one. I think I have a version from the second page of this thread or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARPed1701D Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Herbas said: In regards to power, I understand your point, but wouldn't a screen with power/voltage/battery/ampers give a pretty close reflection of actual wheel load? The problem, as I understand it, is to do with motor consumption being very different to power as calculated in the wheel which is from battery draw and voltage. If you search through the older posts you will find it being explained by people who understand it better than I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palachzzz Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) The problem looks different on different wheels - e.g. Gotway - you can see how fluctuates voltage and battery percent depending from current in picture below, but Inmotion gives average voltage for 10 sec, so it gives more adequate battery percent (battery percent it is function from voltage) Edited September 25, 2017 by palachzzz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Can this app generate graphs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARPed1701D Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, ir_fuel said: Can this app generate graphs? You get speed and power graphs on the second screen but otherwise just copy the log file to a pc with Excel, select the column on interest and hit the line graph button. It is how I have made mine Edited September 26, 2017 by WARPed1701D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwheel Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 @palachzzz I get these numbers on MCM4v1 and v2.0.4. After connecting I just check the MCM box 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palachzzz Posted September 26, 2017 Author Share Posted September 26, 2017 @jbwheel, expectable, I didn't thought about it when I added this feature. Just reset distance from menu and restart App. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Chen Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 5 hours ago, jbwheel said: @palachzzz I get these numbers on MCM4v1 and v2.0.4. After connecting I just check the MCM box Something is trouble with your app.restart or download Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andress Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 When using wheel settings on Kingsong, why doesn't the app read the values that are set from the wheel? It does it for the riding mode as can be seen from the screen with all the info but discards that info in the setting so each says different thing. (btw it would be nice to unify the riding modes names across the app) Same with speed and others. If for example invalid speed is set (i.e. 31 for my KS14C) , it doesn't check and stays on the value that one wanted to set even though in reality the wheel reset to 25. Also it seems like turning the wheel off and on again messes up the avg riding as seen in the screenshot. You are getting darn close to making a perfect unicycle app (already by far the best for android)! Great skills! Thanks for the effort! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koto Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 18 hours ago, jbwheel said: @palachzzz I get these numbers on MCM4v1 and v2.0.4. After connecting I just check the MCM box You probably run backward to the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palachzzz Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 6 hours ago, andress said: When using wheel settings on Kingsong, why doesn't the app read the values that are set from the wheel? It does it for the riding mode as can be seen from the screen with all the info but discards that info in the setting so each says different thing. (btw it would be nice to unify the riding modes names across the app) Same with speed and others. If for example invalid speed is set (i.e. 31 for my KS14C) , it doesn't check and stays on the value that one wanted to set even though in reality the wheel reset to 25 KingSong doesn't tell anything about his current settings, but it send something when you try to set unsupported option (max speed, or led if it not present), but I haven't enough statistics to understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post palachzzz Posted September 27, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) Version 2.0.5 Added: -Gotway 84v correction (from menu) Spoiler Actualy Gotway's controller multiply real voltage value to 0.8, to make it compatible with Gotway official App, that calculate battery percent from reference 67.2V battery. This option in WheelLog just multiply Voltage value to 1.25 (back to real). Fixed: -Inmotion zero-speed if drive to another direction for some wheels (like V3Pro and others). -reset parameters when Gotway MCM option is applyed (like on the picture above)WheelLog_27092017.apk Edited September 27, 2017 by palachzzz 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansolo Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Hi @palachzzz I check the option Gotway 84v correction, but 67 V is always displayed. I had tried to restart WheelLog.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andress Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 11 hours ago, palachzzz said: KingSong doesn't tell anything about his current settings, but it send something when you try to set unsupported option (max speed, or led if it not present), but I haven't enough statistics to understand it. I'm positive that it does. Look at this video I made to prove it. First I set it to 14 kmph on the tablet and once I turn on the app on the phone you can see it there too. Then I change it to 7 kmph and go back to tablet where it also changed. I turned the Bluetooth off when not connected to be sure the app doesn't get the updated value by listening in on the connection from the other device... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 On 26.9.2017 at 10:36 PM, WARPed1701D said: You get speed and power graphs on the second screen but otherwise just copy the log file to a pc with Excel, select the column on interest and hit the line graph button. It is how I have made mine ... An imho nicer and easier way to generate graphs is by using gnuplot (see my new topic http://forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/8468-graph-for-wheellog-data/ to not dillute/disturb this thread). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasz Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I will test the new version tomorrow (with KS16S) I confirm that previous version 17092017 seems to be very fine for me - reconnects after switch off-on well and works with Pebble well. I start to be worried that WheelLog will not work with new Ninebot One Z... which I plan to buy the moment it gets available... As there is still a few months probably - Kind request - Palachzzz - maybe You can figure out how to read Ninebot BT communcation data... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 12 hours ago, palachzzz said: Version 2.0.5 Added: -Gotway 84v correction (from menu) Reveal hidden contents Actualy Gotway's controller multiply real voltage value to 0.8, to make it compatible with Gotway official App, that calculate battery percent from reference 67.2V battery. This option in WheelLog just multiply Voltage value to 1.25 (back to real). Fixed: -Inmotion zero-speed if drive to another direction for some wheels (like V3Pro and others). -reset parameters when Gotway MCM option is applyed (like on the picture above)WheelLog_27092017.apk Btw, @palachzzz- i just discovered that one can upload a file to the http://forum.electricunicycle.org/files/ section which supports as it seems a nice (?simple?) versioning! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palachzzz Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 @Hansolo, thank you for bugreport, will check it. @andress, interesting news for me, I will inspect again KingSong communication sample that I have. @Lukasz, I have communication samples from Ninebot S2 and Ninebot Mini, and I can say, that Ninebot has complicated communication protocol, that is mostly different for different devices. Generally I don't have much desire and time to investigate it, besides Nibebot One Z may have new different protocol, such it was with Ninebot S2 after Ninebot P/E+. @Chriull, Thanks a lot for the tip-off! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwheel Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 On 9/26/2017 at 10:52 PM, palachzzz said: @jbwheel, expectable, I didn't thought about it when I added this feature. Just reset distance from menu and restart App. Good for me, it worked ! I need to try the next version with my Mten3 now that 84V is supported. Thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARPed1701D Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Feature Suggestion. Some people want to do partial charges for battery longevity but do not own a Charge Doctor to make it easy. To ensure a partial charge to a certain voltage (say 4.05v per cell) you'd have to watch the app for the battery voltage to reach the desired level and then pull the plug. Assuming other wheels can output wheel data via bluetooth during charging (such as Inmotino do) it would be cool to be able to set an alarm for when a set voltage is reached during charging. If the wheel doesn't indicate a charging state then a simple slider to activate the alarm when the voltage is passed would do. I have and use a charge doctor but until I had the chance to read the instructions and set it up I was limiting charge by keeping wheellog open during charging and manually terminating when I noticed my target voltage. Having an alarm would have been helpful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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