The Brahan Seer Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 4 hours ago, BKW said: is smashing into the ground. If that foam wasn't there I'm pretty sure that battery would be hitting the ground hard, no? To be fair the ground is very lose and sandy so it may look worse than it actually is since it digs into the ground. Perhaps the result would be the same with any wheel? Something else to consider is although Electric dreams had a low tyre pressure in some of his shots, is the tyre pressure low in the clip going up the 45º slope? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabChampion Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, The Brahan Seer said: To be fair the ground is very lose and sandy so it may look worse than it actually is since it digs into the ground. Perhaps the result would be the same with any wheel? Something else to consider is although Electric dreams had a low tyre pressure in some of his shots, is the tyre pressure low in the clip going up the 45º slope? His tire pressure is so low that without anyone standing on the wheel, you can still see the tire squish into the ground. Thats way too soft imo. I always run all my wheels at 40-45psi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahan Seer Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Cobaltsaber said: His tire pressure is so low that without anyone standing on the wheel, you can still see the tire squish into the ground is the tyre pressure low in the clip going up the 45º slope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabChampion Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Brahan Seer said: is the tyre pressure low in the clip going up the 45º slope? a bit hard to tell, but I think its also low in that clip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungary Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 11 hours ago, Paul A said: Bonk up a log. Begode T4 Completely Fried (Electric Unicycle) Blown Motor and Motherboard!! 8.1K views · 3 months ago This was the motor/ stator slippage. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Cobaltsaber said: I always run all my wheels at 40-45psi I think that'll be a fair bit over the rated max on the EX30, won't it ? No idea why that review guy was running 15 PSI, which seems waaay low, but aren't wheels that size optimally inflated to low 20s, and low 30's max ? Edited January 21, 2023 by Cerbera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleepBloopBlop Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I run my master at 40-45psi and it uses the same diameter tire. The suspension makes the wheel so much less darty running higher pressures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeforester Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Bear in mind that I don’t think Jack represents the usual 50kg test jockeys riders from the Begode school of ‘evaluators’, I don’t really see a 100kg rider among them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleepBloopBlop Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 To be fair the review showed scrapping that can occur if the suspension is fully compressed and the tire pressure is severally under inflated. Also who actually is climbing inclines as shown? The lower battery structure can easily be tapered to mitigate this issue without too much impact to it's strength. I really don't think they need to raise the battery packs for 95% of the riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKW Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, BleepBloopBlop said: To be fair the review showed scrapping that can occur if the suspension is fully compressed and the tire pressure is severally under inflated. Also who actually is climbing inclines as shown? The lower battery structure can easily be tapered to mitigate this issue without too much impact to it's strength. I really don't think they need to raise the battery packs for 95% of the riders. I don't assume people are going to buy this wheel for mainly off-roading. My assumption is that people will buy this for the street and the suspension and battery placement should be fine for that. This is not a wheel I would do heavy off-roading with, even with suspension. For the road, however, it'll be good, especially for speed with the size of the motor and battery size. I would say, if you're looking for more of an all-around EUC that can do street and off-road proficiently, you'll want the S22 (sacrifice in speed and torque), Sherman-S (good all-around with not much sacrifice imo [heavy]), commander pro (same as Sherman-S [heavy]), etc. The EX30 should be a little better on the road than the SS and CP because the low center of gravity due to the batteries, and, obviously, the motor size... Edited January 21, 2023 by BKW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adel Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) If EX30 is mainly to be used as open street cruiser, wouldn't the Master Pro be a better option ? For a little more money, you get the ultimate road cruiser with tons of speed and range, more stability and clearance due to 22" tire, albeit at more heavy package. It would be nice to see them side by side to compare size difference. I'm debating which one to get, or even Commander Pro. I only have budget/room for one additional wheel for now. Edited January 22, 2023 by Adel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailless Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Adel said: If EX30 is mainly to be used as open street cruiser, wouldn't the Master Pro be a better option ? For a little more money, you get the ultimate road cruiser with tons of speed and range, more stability and clearance due to 22" tire, albeit at more heavy package. It would be nice to see them side by side to compare size difference. I'm debating which one to get, or even Commander Pro. I only have budget/room for one additional wheel for now. I've seen a master pro in person with and without the Clark bumper and seat option. Even stock, it's a massive wheel. It's noticeably taller than the ex20, which I'm assuming will have the same dimensions as the ex30. The only way I'd consider the master pro is if I regularly did 70+ mile trips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, trailless said: I've seen a master pro in person with and without the Clark bumper and seat option. Even stock, it's a massive wheel. It's noticeably taller than the ex20, which I'm assuming will have the same dimensions as the ex30. The only way I'd consider the master pro is if I regularly did 70+ mile trips. Since I have gotten used to my Abrams, I didn't find Master Pro particularly large. You should try riding the Abrams for the very first time. I guess it is relative thing. BTW, I am not a big guy. The only thing that stands out for me, ergo wise, on the Master Pro is the high pedal height. The wheel is well balanced though, once you get used to standing up high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uras Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) On 1/21/2023 at 7:50 PM, BKW said: Tbh, after seeing these videos I'm somewhat surprised that it appears the EX30 can handle this terrain fairly well. If you watch enough of this youtuber's videos of the ex30 off-road you will see it bonking large stones fairly easily. Still, it would be too close for comfort for me doing that off-road and the thought would always be in my head, "will I ram the bottom edge into something?" -- I think the answer to that would be: yes it would eventually; probably fairly often given that terrain. The video that sticks out to me of the disadvantage of the lower battery and the protective foam is the third video I posted where the guy is clearly bottoming-out and the foam is smashing into the ground. If that foam wasn't there I'm pretty sure that battery would be hitting the ground hard, no? I did notice there is some kind of steal/metal frame thing under the battery, but I'm not sure how much protection that gives the bottom of the battery (you can see the metal frame thing in Electric Dreams video) I don't think those dudes buy their wheels. It looks as though they do promotional videos for anyone who wants them. Begode gives them a bunch of wheels and says "go and do what you do"; any bad stuff gets edited out. No skin off noses for euc serbia if a wheel or two gets broken, and very cheap advertising campaign for begode or leaper kim or kingsong etc etc. Euc serbia doesn't appear to give reviews of good and bad - although I haven't looked in depth. I had a friend who worked on ad campaigns for car manufacturers - she'd often point out in an ad how many cars were damaged, sometimes destroyed (mostly 4wd ads) in the making. We never see that side of things. Very misleading. Edited January 22, 2023 by Uras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailless Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 On 1/21/2023 at 8:29 AM, The Brahan Seer said: To be fair the ground is very lose and sandy so it may look worse than it actually is since it digs into the ground. Perhaps the result would be the same with any wheel? Something else to consider is although Electric dreams had a low tyre pressure in some of his shots, is the tyre pressure low in the clip going up the 45º slope? Even if it isn't low, he had to take off the pad to attempt the hill climb. If you take a look at the picture of the ex30, it looks like the pad is almost parallel to the tire. Bonking a curb might not even be possible and might result in you getting thrown off the wheel... I wish that was tested. Riding in the city with a mixture of road and sometimes sidewalks, bonking up a curb is necessary. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKW Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Uras said: I don't think those dudes buy their wheels. It looks as though they do promotional videos for anyone who wants them. Begode gives them a bunch of wheels and says "go and do what you do"; any bad stuff gets edited out. No skin off noses for euc serbia if a wheel or two gets broken, and very cheap advertising campaign for begode or leaper kim or kingsong etc etc. Euc serbia doesn't appear to give reviews of good and bad - although I haven't looked in depth. I had a friend who worked on ad campaigns for car manufacturers - she'd often point out in an ad how many cars were damaged, sometimes destroyed (mostly 4wd ads) in the making. We never see that side of things. Very misleading. Levi, the guy that usually rides begode wheels with the horned helmet, is on the begode team, I know for a fact. I don't think EUC Serbia is part of the Begode team as he has videos of other company's wheels in his videos. I think he is more just a normal youtuber trying to get views, etc. My assumption is these shorts you see of new wheels from Begode are almost certainly part of the Begode team testing out the wheels and doing demos imo. If you see Levi with them then it's probably the begode team This is Levi (if that's his real name, not sure): Edited January 22, 2023 by BKW 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailless Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Screw it, I've been debating between the commander Pro and the ex30. I was almost set on the commander Pro but im just gonna give the ex30 a shot. I have the master and I'm setting that up to be my offroad wheel. The ex30 will be my city and long range road cruiser. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKW Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, trailless said: Screw it, I've been debating between the commander Pro and the ex30. I was almost set on the commander Pro but im just gonna give the ex30 a shot. I have the master and I'm setting that up to be my offroad wheel. The ex30 will be my city and long range road cruiser. This I understand because I have a SherMax and I think that may be one reason I’m not as excited about the SS (I also don’t have a 134volt wheel, etc). Plus, what I do for work requires a more rugged wheel that is also more versatile. For a street wheel the ex30 will be amazing, but it looks like it can handle some off riding too just nothing crazy, but most riders don’t do this anyway I don’t think Edited January 24, 2023 by BKW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabChampion Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 13 hours ago, trailless said: Screw it, I've been debating between the commander Pro and the ex30. I was almost set on the commander Pro but im just gonna give the ex30 a shot. I have the master and I'm setting that up to be my offroad wheel. The ex30 will be my city and long range road cruiser. i'm eyeing the commander pro a bit more and more, but then I think about that beefy rim on the ex30. Then I think about the same old c30/c38 rim on the commander pro which is the same as the RS, exn, master. Yea I think i'm gonna stick with my gut feeling. Ex30 rim should be a beast unlike any wheel we've seen before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKW Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Cobaltsaber said: i'm eyeing the commander pro a bit more and more, but then I think about that beefy rim on the ex30. Then I think about the same old c30/c38 rim on the commander pro which is the same as the RS, exn, master. Yea I think i'm gonna stick with my gut feeling. Ex30 rim should be a beast unlike any wheel we've seen before. i think we all can appreciate the line up of Sherman-S, EX30, and Commander Pro. It's a definitely hard decision choosing for some of us this time around! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleepBloopBlop Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Begode did upgrade the C38 rim on the V2 master to be beefier. I do expect the EX30 rim to be bomb proof though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trailless Posted January 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) From Facebook, someone got the EX30. Think he lives in the US, San Fransisco. Looks like Alien Rides. Wonder if they got their shipment in. Facebook Post Edited January 26, 2023 by trailless 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabChampion Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 On 1/26/2023 at 12:44 PM, trailless said: From Facebook, someone got the EX30. Think he lives in the US, San Fransisco. Looks like Alien Rides. Wonder if they got their shipment in. Facebook Post I'm liking how the ex30 looks with fairing plates alot. I think it looks sleeker than even the stock commander pro and sherman-s. Proper grizzla fairings and bumpers are gonna look even better. That black rim stands out with that michelin tire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKW Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 https://www.facebook.com/reel/874028760497864 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meepmeepmayer Posted January 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) This wheel looks so much better without the ugly-ass foam pad thing! Even if the ugly-ass foam pad thing protects the batteries. Hard choices. Maybe there will be a good alternative (3D-printed hard plastic thing) that protects those too-low (are Begode blind?) battery box outer lower corners but looks better. Now someone please tell those manufacturers (Inmotion excluded, they figured it out) that battery boxes don't have to be rectangular. Each cell row is shifted by 1/2 cell width anyways for better space packing. That lends itself to a nice 45 degree angle for making shield-shaped batteries. You can have low batteries and no low corners at the same time! Professional ilustration: Cells in shifted rows (random picture from here): Edited January 27, 2023 by meepmeepmayer 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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