Popular Post fbhb Posted May 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) Just wanted to make Sherman owners aware of current information found on the Veteran Sherman Telegram, regarding cracked and faulty Sherman rims! These following photos include owners that have just received Brand New wider rims in some cases, Only to find large cracks and voids in their rims - THIS IS NOT the result of abuse or damage to the wheel. It will pay for owners to regularly check your rims, whether you are on version 1 or the New wider version 2 rims in light of this apparent weakness. Version 1 40mm wide RIM Version 2 60mm wide RIM Version 2 60mm wide RIM Version 1 40mm wide RIM Version 2 60mm wide RIM These last 2 photos are from one owner that had already had a Brand New 60mm wide cracked rim sent out, Only to have had this sent to him as a replacement with this huge void in the material. Video and some of the previous photos courtesy of Roger Hajali via Telegram. Please carry out regular checks on your Sherman rims guys. Edit: @meepmeepmayer maybe this could be another topic worthy of pinning due to it being of a safety concern? Edited May 23, 2021 by fbhb 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercurio Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Thanks for the report. I'll definitely check mine when it arrives and forwarded to the Sherman riders I know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Shocking! Imagine riding on that! For those cracks to be on an unused rim I wonder how it happened. Mis-matched thermal contraction after moulding? Or simply down to the cheesanium used? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbhb Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 54 minutes ago, Planemo said: Shocking! Imagine riding on that! For those cracks to be on an unused rim I wonder how it happened. Mis-matched thermal contraction after moulding? Or simply down to the cheesanium used? It's always really dis-heartening to see these obvious manufacturing QC issues slip through the net and into customers hands. At this stage it is not clear how far reaching this issue is as these incidents are reports on Telegram from just the last couple of days and others may still come to light. Hopefully no one ends up in an accident due to being unaware of the huge risk of failure these faulty rims will be prone to, so this topic will be helpful in getting the word out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post r_713 Posted May 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2021 Has Veteran hired their old friends from the Gotway QC dept? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply_Striking Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 19 hours ago, fbhb said: Veteran Sherman Telegram Link to group please, mine should be enroute. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbhb Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, Simply_Striking said: Link to group please, mine should be enroute. @Simply_Striking Here is the link to the Telegram group: ENG Veteran Sherman owners 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camenbert Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Usual chinese quality control... If not Sherman, if not the motor supplier, the rim supplier... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilvodka Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Gonna check it now. I’m on version 1 and always treated it like a chocolate wheel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbhb Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Topkek said: Gonna check it now. I’m on version 1 and always treated it like a chocolate wheel. Very wise, please report back to let others get an idea how version 1 and version 2 rims out here are fairing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrovertigo Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Received my Sherman a few days ago from the latest batch and the wheel seems to be ok thankfully. Though obviously there is no way to check the inside of the wheel without stripping it all down. The fact these are leaving the factory like this though is disgraceful. You can't tell me that some of the worst cases weren't spotted when the tyre was being fitted? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MartinF Posted May 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2021 I've received my V3 Sherman 5 days ago. The rim and everything I've checked from the outside looks fine. This wheel behaves great so far but maybe I should strip it down to check everything. I've done this with my RS19 but I have trusted in Veteran quality control until now... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbhb Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) Unfortunately, another Sherman owner running on the New wider 60mm RIM has posted a video on Telegram today having a huge chunk of material snapped off: This is beginning to get very worrying and has definitely put my thoughts of upgrading to the wider 60mm RIM on hold until we get some clarity on Veteran's response to these issues! Edited May 24, 2021 by fbhb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, fbhb said: Unfortunately, another Sherman owner running on the New wider 60mm RIM has posted a video on Telegram today having a huge chunk of material snapped off: This is beginning to get very worrying and has definitely put my thoughts of upgrading to the wider 60mm RIM on hold until we get some clarity on Veteran's response to these issues! I notice the Clark pads fitted, what was the lead up to this incident? Any jumps involved? Not saying it's an excuse, a rim shouldn't do this anyway, but just trying to ascertain if it occurred during 'normal' riding. Thankfully it didn't look like it caused a crash, is the guy OK? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbhb Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Planemo said: I notice the Clark pads fitted, what was the lead up to this incident? Any jumps involved? Not saying it's an excuse, a rim shouldn't do this anyway, but just trying to ascertain if it occurred during 'normal' riding. Thankfully it didn't look like it caused a crash, is the guy OK? This only got posted a little earlier today and so far the OP has not made any further comment (there was nothing in writing by the OP, just the video), but speculation is now running away with peoples suggestions around Low pressure - but I'm not convinced of that at this stage. If I hear anything further on Telegram I will update this topic, especially if the OP comes back with some solid background details. Edited May 24, 2021 by fbhb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Checked mine (new wide rim) it looks ok no cracks what I could see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothamMike Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Ugh. This is disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kekafuch Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Maybe when doing periodic xray inspection of the pedals/pedal hangers…. Scan the rim at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWOTR Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) This is no longer even mildly amusing. My RS has some issues (another thread.) I knew that the older Sherman's had tire problems, so I ordered one from a Canadian seller that is due to land in Canada this week (read it should have the most recent firmware and a new rim.) I bought this because I didn't want anymore hollow bore bearings, worrying about rain, and the likes. And now I see this thread? I'm going to hope that my Sherman is delivered problem free and that I avoid issues. I know I am over reacting. But I have a RS sitting on my office floor waiting for parts and I don't need (nor do I have room for) a second wheel to sit in pieces in my office. So far, I have not even taken delivery. But this was supposed to be my bullet proof wheel. Maybe I can still hope? *It probably does not help that I literally just ordered it today... Edited May 26, 2021 by DWOTR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giffy Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Hoping these are just a couple isolated incidences. I've ordered my Sherman and will be doing my own QC once it arrives. If I see anything having to do with the new wider rim, I'll report it back here. I know two others getting their Sherman around the same time I do so I can do an update for at least 3 wheels total. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercurio Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 For what it's worth, I commented on a SpeedyFeet video where @Jonathan Whalley cracked his Sherman rim and going down stairs was described as the likely cause: What I said: Quote 4:44: it turns out that as identified recently in user groups a non-negligible amount of customers, since the early Sherman days have received defective rims and still are now (even as replacement) with the wider 60mm version. Jonathan didn't think that his practice did would break the rim, and maybe he was right in case, and the rim had a manufacturing defect. Answer from SpeedyFeet: Quote In terms of our experience, we have had zero warranty/faults with any of the Shermans we have sold since release...this is the first with a rim failure. I'm sure SpeedyFeet sold a fair amount of Sherman, so it gives a sense of how frequent the issue can be. The video: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unnamexd Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 me ordered new rim with tire, no issue, maybe delivery problem? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjPanJan Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Mine looks OK but checked only indor when i go to direct sun and find some problem i put here pictures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUC AZ Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Is the company doing anything? My rim is cracked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroThruster Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Thankfully both my stock rim and my yet to be installed 60mm are fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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