Paul g Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Funky said: How many years it have been? No good lights at all. Some EUC's even don't have backlight. (Some small led strip isn't a a light btw..) I'm simply given up on "perfect" wheel. Because more and more junk EUCs have been released past ~2 years. None good that i would like to buy comes close to 18xl. (I can count only 3 euc's that are good "enough" in my eyes. And also the 3rd have "software" issues till this day. 5 EUCs if you count heavy wheels - but i don't like/need heavy wheel.) Ps: i personally think "past" were better. Nowadays.. World is going to shit. Disappointing evolution, indeed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post That Guy Posted August 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2022 New screen, too… 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul g Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, That Guy said: New screen, too… And let’s hope the board(s) will be better sealed from outside and better cooled, preferably mostly by passive cooling, but wouldn’t mind fans if needed be. An all around metal enclosure - Al and Cu as they described it- would be perfect for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Paul g said: An all around metal enclosure - Al and Cu as they described it- would be perfect for that. Respectfully, please, no!... Too heavy and expensive! :-) EUC's fall and their external panels scratch and break. Those parts need to be made of good quality plastic which would be easy and cheap to replace. For the external shell to be safely sacrificial (and if there are no longer metal bars) the internal structure needs to be robust... We'll see... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryman Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, That Guy said: New screen, too… What's it say on rear fender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tawpie Posted August 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2022 it doesn't say Surging Passion, so that's a start! 1 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheelyboy Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 7 hours ago, Funky said: And if you don't want to be the "test dummy", or buy less quality wheel. It's easy 3 years wait time for this wheel. So let's say it will be "good" enough at 2025 year. Because let's be real, all "new" wheels have problems at release. And over next 1-2 year they get fixed/updated. This is what I want to believe. But with V13, master pro as coming at the end of the year, maybe veteran will push to get it out sooner. Although honestly, I think these 3000+wh wheels with suspension, the weight on all of them will be insane. Really a different class than the non suspension Sherman anyway. Remember when that wheel was considered extremely heavy? Hah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul g Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 6 hours ago, That Guy said: Respectfully, please, no!... Too heavy and expensive! :-) EUC's fall and their external panels scratch and break. Those parts need to be made of good quality plastic which would be easy and cheap to replace. For the external shell to be safely sacrificial (and if there are no longer metal bars) the internal structure needs to be robust... We'll see... I don’t know, I personally don’t think would mind if it was all metal. It just needs some plastic or rubber like bumpers, or padding with something, to absorb the impact, which can easily be DIYed, as it was the case with the Master, but I was actually referring to the board-electronics enclosure, which needs good cooling. We will find out more probably in the next month or so, the way things usually are released. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul g Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 I like so much the solution for the trolley handle, in my opinion better than what InMotion choose for their V13 (which is out of my list by default anyway). Better one that serves as seat for your butt, than one that sticks in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Where do all these pictures and videos come from? How official is the information in them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 53 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: Where do all these pictures and videos come from? How official is the information in them? Ah, nobody really knows where these leaks are coming from… :-) They are more often accurate than not… I found these pics on Telegram: https://t.me/veteranUS And also that EUC Serbia (Serbia, huh?…) YouTube channel has a lot of new wheel testing vids… :-) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tryptych Posted August 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2022 Meh... Call me when they make a 60lb suspension wheel with better specs than the V11... Enough with the 100lb wheels.... weight matters!!! 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 26 minutes ago, Tryptych said: Meh... Call me when they make a 60lb suspension wheel with better specs than the V11... Enough with the 100lb wheels.... weight matters!!! Begode T4 Meh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjPanJan Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Every suspension system add +5 to +9Kg compared to original EUC this is just how real world work. Take it or leave it its simple. EXAMPLE 16X and MSP HT(discontinued) both 25kg and is pure plastic body with 1500Wh or 1800Wh this 2 euc is top of world compare range and RAW power VS weight. See S18 30.6KG with 18XL motor and JOKE battery and still 30Kg. (18XL is 27,8kg) About SSMAX (Suspenion Sherman MAX) i am potencionaly buyer i float around all "future" EUC V13 /Master PRO/ MASTER/ important for me is manufacurer max rider WEIGHT and troublefree solution of suspension. I still fight in head buy suspension EUC or NOT SSMAX 40kg sweet spot where i can imagine manipulate this "THING" around is posible for nnörmal healthy person. And 50+KG EUC is for me smething what i have in garage alredy (Simson S51 Eunduro moto veteran 1988) : 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, DjPanJan said: Every suspension system add +5 to +9Kg compared to original EUC this is just how real world work. Take it or leave it its simple. EXAMPLE 16X and MSP HT(discontinued) both 25kg and is pure plastic body with 1500Wh or 1800Wh this 2 euc is top of world compare range and RAW power VS weight. See S18 30.6KG with 18XL motor and JOKE battery and still 30Kg. (18XL is 27,8kg) About SSMAX (Suspenion Sherman MAX) i am potencionaly buyer i float around all "future" EUC V13 /Master PRO/ MASTER/ important for me is manufacurer max rider WEIGHT and troublefree solution of suspension. I still fight in head buy suspension EUC or NOT SSMAX 40kg sweet spot where i can imagine manipulate this "THING" around is posible for nnörmal healthy person. And 50+KG EUC is for me smething what i have in garage alredy (Simson S51 Eunduro moto veteran 1988) : 18xl is 24.5KG (Mine is 25.5kg because of M/C tire.) Get it right! 18xl and 16x is the same weight. (Ps. Google is wrong..) They can make 16s with suspension. Some people don't need the 1554Wh batteries.. Some people are happy with ~500Wh batteries. Take away 50% of batteries from 18xl add suspension and it's 25kg suspension 18" wheel. Heck make it 16" and it will be even lighter. I think you meant 27.8kg is S18.. They just need to "configure" the battery setup and it could work even with small amount of Wh... Edited August 30, 2022 by Funky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DjPanJan Posted September 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) Edited September 6, 2022 by DjPanJan 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 It's real! Looks like this is the Youtube channel of one of the Veteran people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KNZ Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Honestly digging how thin this bad boy is in comparison to some. Kind of miss the big wrap around roll cage look though. Hopefully this one will still hold up in crashes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Bless Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Diggin the look of it. Looking at the videos it looks like it's a 22 inch tire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meepmeepmayer Posted September 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2022 Shell looks very robust. No roll cage needed. Though it was a great place to add on stuff, and looked unique. Here's a look at the suspension from the video: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryman Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 43 minutes ago, meepmeepmayer said: Shell looks very robust. No roll cage needed. Though it was a great place to add on stuff, and looked unique. Here's a look at the suspension from the video: What is with the pedals? They are smooth. We just need weight and price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul g Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) The pedals look OK. Edit: Not screwed studs though. Edited September 6, 2022 by Paul g 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul g Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) (Those exposed wires unfortunately look so much like Begode standard- Edit: Not really, they have a cover in the CGI).Let's hope at least are well water sealed, or they can be easily water sealed with some silicone. Edited September 6, 2022 by Paul g 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) It is going to interesting to see which one has the higher build quality, V13 Challenger, or the Sherman-S. It looks like the Sherman-S is further along then what the initial rendering suggest. Nice. Edited September 6, 2022 by techyiam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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