Popular Post Rawnei Posted November 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2022 Really good writeup here about why the stock link/shock on the Master is so bad: https://www.facebook.com/groups/451073013606363/permalink/517829636930700/ 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EUCzero Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 20 hours ago, Rawnei said: Really good writeup here about why the stock link/shock on the Master is so bad: https://www.facebook.com/groups/451073013606363/permalink/517829636930700/ Yes. It is really a strange design decision that could been different at NO EXTRA COST!!! It annoys me immensely that the did not just do it correctly straight away. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Silver Posted November 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2022 Not going to bottom out now 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 On 11/21/2022 at 7:57 AM, EUCzero said: ... aaab. Is I suspected and read before. Thank. What I was thinking is that since the slot that loads the negative chamber seems to be located pretty deep into the shock travel, does the stock linkage even make the shock go far enough for it to happen? Or are all stock Masters basically running the negative chamber at 0psi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUCzero Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) My old shock did have 0 pressure in the negative chamber.But I got it replaced as the rebound adjustment did not work. So I was very confused when I needed much higher psi in the new one. Logical now when I now more. I can try to take the old one all apart and investigate just that. Will be interesting. Edited November 23, 2022 by EUCzero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUCzero Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 18 hours ago, Silver said: Not going to bottom out now Be aware that a gauge like that might never show a correct value again after being pressurized high above its upper range. Normally 350 psi would be enough for a 0-300psi gauge to get a deformed bourdon tube. My old job was to calibrate gauges like this. Well, mostly bigger and more accurate ones, but Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sffish Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Are there any revisions coming in the future for the Master? I've heard there's a revised motherboard. I'm asking because I am tempted to buy on of the Masters on sale for Black Friday. I don't want to get it if there are significant changes coming in the future for the Master. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnei Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 5 hours ago, sffish said: Are there any revisions coming in the future for the Master? I've heard there's a revised motherboard. I'm asking because I am tempted to buy on of the Masters on sale for Black Friday. I don't want to get it if there are significant changes coming in the future for the Master. Thanks. They revise small stuff all the time without informing anyone, if you are asking that there is a completely new Master model coming probably not Begode strategy is to constantly release new wheels and forget about the old ones. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sffish Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 11 hours ago, Rawnei said: They revise small stuff all the time without informing anyone, if you are asking that there is a completely new Master model coming probably not Begode strategy is to constantly release new wheels and forget about the old ones. Thanks for the reply. Yeah I just ordered the Alien Rides Black Friday Master. We'll see when I get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sffish Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Any thoughts on Hsiang's physics of the flexiness of the Master? It seems like you could bolt some sheet metal (with some light fabrication) on the inside of the battery boxes between the 2 top bolts and the 2 bottom bolts to increase structural rigidity. Also would serve to protect the inside of the battery cases against stones from the tire. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, sffish said: Any thoughts on Hsiang's physics of the flexiness of the Master? It seems like you could bolt some sheet metal (with some light fabrication) on the inside of the battery boxes between the 2 top bolts and the 2 bottom bolts to increase structural rigidity. Also would serve to protect the inside of the battery cases against stones from the tire. Sheet metal may not have enough in-plane stiffness. But the battery boxes can be made into a structural component. Edited November 25, 2022 by techyiam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Reitz Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) + commentary: In this video I have the kickstand working nicely. However, pertinent to this thread on suspension the master is in the domain of the S22 in this video and yes I have an S22. Before I got the stuck sliders working, and 4th controller to get the S22 working again, this was better than it was. However, with the CNC rollers and 350lbs spring that wheel rocks the world with great suspension. So the only thing remaining better about the Master is its speed over 43 (limit of S22, I've done 41.8 on mine). I've so far done 43.4 max speed on the master. I will likely go back to a road tire on it (assuming the S22 doesn't blow another controller or anything major like that). So in reference to Hsiang's flexiness comment, yes I can feel it in this grassy video. However, I find the linear suspension with less travel of the master is much more significant. It means the Master is a road-nature suspension while the S22 is the opposite. Like a dirt bike vs a nice car. The Master is a 'nice car' that can go faster than the S22. Edited November 26, 2022 by Elliott Reitz + commentary: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiguy Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) Just took my ewheels batch 2 master out for a lunch ride and noticed that my lift switch no longer does anything. Regular clicks as well as push and hold. It used to disengage the motor for me. Edited November 27, 2022 by taiguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Reitz Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, taiguy said: Just took my ewheels batch 2 master out for a lunch ride and noticed that my lift switch no longer does anything. Regular clicks as well as push and hold. It used to disengage the motor for me. Mine seems to require a "double-press" to go into lift mode. And only a "single-press" to return to balance. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbera Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Mine is double press to lift mode, and then auto balances when unit is returned to vertical. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiguy Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Doh, thanks for the reminder everyone. Double tap to engage! This is what happens when you don't ride for a month... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post btl Posted November 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2022 Structual battery packs. Master battery in full metal jacket, so to speak. That was a lot of work, no mass production planned. 6 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magman116 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 @btl Looks awesome! Great work! How much weight did all that metal add? Was the battery casings made from extrusions or did your form them from sheet metal? Are they aluminum or steel? If you are willing to share, please provide more details on the construction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btl Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 (edited) I posted some pics here: The added weight is perhaps 200g per pack, but left the kickstand off, so its almost stock weight. Edited November 28, 2022 by btl 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magman116 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Thank you! Quite the project for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sffish Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 5 hours ago, btl said: Structual battery packs. Master battery in full metal jacket, so to speak. That was a lot of work, no mass production planned. Have you noticed a difference in riding performance with your new battery boxes? Is the Master more rigid? Thanks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 when you decide to record something but it's full cloudy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUCzero Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 34 minutes ago, EMA said: when you decide to record something but it's full cloudy So... what is the verdict? It is difficult when both shock and linkage is different to compare with stock. But Try ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 55 minutes ago, EUCzero said: So... what is the verdict? It is difficult when both shock and linkage is different to compare with stock. But Try ! it's definitely an upgrade becouse will let you tune the suspension 360° , stock geometry is on the comfort side, it can't provide support if you are heavy and do big drops i've designed a nice progression curve that works very nice since the beginning, middle stroke is awesome imho, the rubber at the end will smooth the last 10mm. with this i'm running a 550 (the small i got atm), compared to the 1250 i use with stock geometry is a bit stiffer and support big drops better, i'm waiting 350 and 450lbs to test (72kg rider) need to try stock shock as a reference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm10 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Are you cutting the new linkage plates out of aluminum? 1/4" thick enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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