supercurio Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 6 hours ago, BleepBloopBlop said: Bahahaha. You all should tell the RS-HT owners how dangerous their wheels are with their current high capacity cells. This wheel is basically an RS-HT with more voltage for increased RPM/Speed. My point exactly. They are. From local people I know: 1 burned down house (MSP HT) 1 basement fire with visit to the ER (MSP HT) 6 broken packs (2xMSP HT + 1x EX.N) Mainly from information @goatman shared and linked to, I believe 40T packs will less prone to fires or breaking down - to a certain extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcatraz Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 7 hours ago, BleepBloopBlop said: Bahahaha. You all should tell the RS-HT owners how dangerous their wheels are with their current high capacity cells. This wheel is basically an RS-HT with more voltage for increased RPM/Speed. Well. If that's the case, then why do you think they're offering other cell options now? Boredom? I don't mean the third party packs. (Those could be because of quality concerns.) I mean the Begode in house made Molicel packs. Has Molicel P42 been replaced by Samsung 40T now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BleepBloopBlop Posted April 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2022 They have had dealer requests for these higher discharge cells from what I've seen to compete with the LiTech offerings. The Molicel P42 is difficult to source and expensive. EWheels is only going to offer the 50E and 40T in their packs from LiTech. In other news my Master just shipped! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm10 Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Anyone see this unboxing of the Master yet? https://fb.watch/ciDStcSOo_/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 21 hours ago, BleepBloopBlop said: peak around 3000w typically on a ride and top it out at 43mph indicated most rides. Have you looked at your peak power draw from the built-in display? If yes, what were the values? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meepmeepmayer Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 I wish they would offer a 6p (3600Wh) variant. No more need to consider lesser capacity cells to get enough peak current. No more need to choose between the otherwise perfect wheel (on paper) and a long range cruiser. No more 100V EX20S needed. All good. I guess it would be too perfect to be true 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleepBloopBlop Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) It would also weigh nearly 100lbs like its big brother the EX20S! I do wonder about adding an additional pair of packs to the back behind the current rear packs. Would end up with a tail heavy wheel but I bet you would get used to it. Edited April 10, 2022 by BleepBloopBlop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post BleepBloopBlop Posted April 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Brahan Seer said: I guess it's good to get the content out there for people that don't have FB. Just try and not becoming Chooch2.0 😂 Edited April 10, 2022 by BleepBloopBlop 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahan Seer Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, BleepBloopBlop said: I guess it's good to get the content out there for people that don't have FB The link above for facebook said This content isn't available at the moment When this happens, it's usually because the owner only shared it with a small group of people or changed who can see it, or it's been deleted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahan Seer Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Here is a slightly longer version but still not in realtime.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunzn Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 with best wishes from the S22 telegram group master 1st batch oscillations https://t.me/s20eagle/8530 handle/pedals after 3 days of use https://t.me/s20eagle/8519 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleepBloopBlop Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Hopefully the oscillation is a firmware issue or a hall sensor issue isolated to that specific wheel. The handle and pedals just look like they have been abused imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gon2fast Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Blunzn said: with best wishes from the S22 telegram group master 1st batch oscillations https://t.me/s20eagle/8530 handle/pedals after 3 days of use https://t.me/s20eagle/8519 So what? We all know that there are going to be issues with the first few batches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TantasStarke Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Blunzn said: with best wishes from the S22 telegram group master 1st batch oscillations https://t.me/s20eagle/8530 handle/pedals after 3 days of use https://t.me/s20eagle/8519 Those pedals look fine, handle on the otherside looks like it just needs some glue, I don't see the problem with it Can't say anything about the oscillations, idk if that would be a firmware or a hardware issue, not intelligent enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcatraz Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 8 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said: I wish they would offer a 6p (3600Wh) variant. No more need to consider lesser capacity cells to get enough peak current. No more need to choose between the otherwise perfect wheel (on paper) and a long range cruiser. No more 100V EX20S needed. All good. I guess it would be too perfect to be true It's probably on its way. Physically it could be tricky to find a place for a third pack. Like the EX.N the weight distribution could get affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleepBloopBlop Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Someone should go warn Shibby his RS-T isn't safe with it's factory high capacity cells! https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ca0BP_vOGM7/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techyiam Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) In joining the euc world, I am realizing that Murphy's Law is too conservative for euc's manufactured in China. Instead of: What can go wrong, will go wrong. To: What can go wrong, is guaranteed to go wrong. What shouldn't go wrong, will go wrong. And lastly: If you can make them, you sell them. (without regards) (There is no differentiation between prototyping, pre-production, and production; nor QC, Quality Assurance, and Safety Considerations are a thing. Issues, problems, and defects are a thing, if and only if customers complain about them.) Edited April 11, 2022 by techyiam 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GoGeorgeGo Posted April 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2022 I wonder if the oscillations are occuring in soft mode specifically or all modes? My ex20s had an issue with its softmode firmware out of the box as well but after getting in contact with begode they resolved it via a firmware update within 24 hours. (Hard and medium modes where not effected) Probably the same thing here, there is an issue with the calibration probably having to do with the suspension and being such a heavy wheel. I would think this would be resolved very quickly if it is firmware related. The owner just needs to get in contact with the their distributor and have them communicate to gotway that they need to push a firmware update asap 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcatraz Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 23 minutes ago, BleepBloopBlop said: Someone should go warn Shibby his RS-T isn't safe with it's factory high capacity cells! https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ca0BP_vOGM7/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Maybe? How many Nikola/MSP/RS-HT are still running fine after 5/10 years with original packs? If they aren't overly represented among pack failures then I'll shut up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMA Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 8 hours ago, Blunzn said: with best wishes from the S22 telegram group master 1st batch oscillations https://t.me/s20eagle/8530 handle/pedals after 3 days of use https://t.me/s20eagle/8519 if these are the problems of a new wheel i'm absolutely happy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post onkeldanuel Posted April 11, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2022 9 hours ago, EMA said: if these are the problems of a new wheel i'm absolutely happy Absolutely, the Pedals looking fine after abuse, the handle is No Problem at all, Just dont lift it on this Thing....i means it has 35 kg! And that stuttering seems most likely a Firmware problem or a isolated Problem with this wheel (i Hope so) My Dealer told me the Masters will ship to Europe next week and so i hopefully have it in my hands beginning of June to shred it through hilly Austria 😄 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm10 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 I'd love to get mine in June! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick McCutcheon Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 On 4/10/2022 at 3:20 PM, Blunzn said: with best wishes from the S22 telegram group master 1st batch oscillations https://t.me/s20eagle/8530 handle/pedals after 3 days of use https://t.me/s20eagle/8519 FFS! I cannot believe that they put so much work (supposedly) into testing this wheel, filming a ton of promo material, yet somehow it STILL oscillates. It is truly mind boggling. Well, maybe I can believe it... Regardless of how quickly this has the potential to be fixed with an update, I am just utterly confused as to how such a basic riding operation would lead to oscillations after so much test riding. The commander HS has the same issue, but I'll give them a pass there since it's only at top speed where they are likely afraid to reach. @GoGeorgeGo, I know you said you aren't too keen on doing top speed tests yourself, would you happen to know anyone that is/are you willing to even let that test be performed? Understandable if not, I can't imagine spare parts would be easy to get at the moment. However, all my hopes for the commander were dashed, at least until they fix the issue, when I discovered the oscillation at top speed (45mph+), so I would not be surprised if an even heavier wheel like the EX20S oscillates as well. Though it is reassuring you are able to get FW updates so quickly. How are you contacting Begode, just by WeChatting someone like Lukas directly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercurio Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 @Nick McCutcheon it feels like their testing is limited to some speed range, and only some pedal modes. Otherwise it means they just release with the oscillation and don't care. BTW I have a friend who has the same oscillations as you described on the Commander HS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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